Elon Musk polls X users on ending daylight
saving time
Fox Business,
by
Eric Revell
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Posted By: Harlowe,
3/6/2025 2:40:50 PM
Billionaire Elon Musk polled users of his social media platform X about how they want to approach ending daylight saving time (DST). Musk asked..., "If daylight savings [sic] time is canceled, do you prefer" an hour earlier or an hour later. [Snip] Moving to DST permanently or remaining on standard time permanently would require an act of Congress, even as 18 states have enacted laws that would provide for permanent DST if Congress allows such a change, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. [Snip] The American Academy of Sleep Medicine issued a recommendation in 2020 that the U.S. transition to a year-round fixed time,
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
RCFLyer98 3/6/2025 2:42:41 PM (No. 1909811)
Set the clock one way or the other. Then, leave the clock alone. No more changing the time.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Hazymac 3/6/2025 2:43:07 PM (No. 1909812)
Standard time is fine with me. No more Daylight Savings. Daylight cannot be saved.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Skinnydip 3/6/2025 2:58:33 PM (No. 1909822)
I really don’t care which. Just pick one and stick with it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Harlowe 3/6/2025 3:28:57 PM (No. 1909846)
This post is a plea for the powers that be to put an end to the disruption of daily lives and impact on human bodies by making a permanent change to Standard Time of generations past. Textbook is one thing, REALITY another. For people living with heart disease and/or families caring for loved ones with heart disease, the impact on lives is REAL and can be life-threatening.
Without being heartless, to insist on making Daylight Savings Time the law of the land for the purpose of outdoors sports activities is heartless; life is learning to live with reality and making the most of it regardless of personal preferences. With the issue of setting Standard Time for the country, it is not a matter of appeasing individual preferences of one group versus another, but the necessity for stability in life be it commerce, health, personal, social. Perhaps instability is a significant part of the problem within the world today, especially for young people facing instability within country, environment, home, morality, religious foundation, school, society. For the sake of children, for the sake of individuals with heart disease: “The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world that it leaves to its children.” (Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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4 years ago the Senate passed a bill ending DST in part due to the health damage it causes seniors. Pelosi personally let the bill die in the House. I hope she enjoys the sleep interruption and fatigue she will experience over the next 2 weeks.
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End DST and bring back the Drive in Movie industry- if only they still made decent movies. That was one of the great things about growing up in the early 70s only to see drive in disappear after DST came back .
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Plex 3/6/2025 3:43:37 PM (No. 1909857)
Arizona and I think Montana do not do DST (except for some Indian reservations). Sounds like it doesn't need Congress.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
YorkieMom 3/6/2025 3:58:17 PM (No. 1909864)
I totally agree with #2.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 3/6/2025 4:06:30 PM (No. 1909869)
Ask me! Ask me! Ask me!
KILL IT !!!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Miss T 3/6/2025 4:31:36 PM (No. 1909884)
#4 has made a well-reasoned comment. We need to stay on standard time all year.
I live at the latitude of 47 degrees north. Even on standard time, in winter we have children walking to school in the dark and waiting for school busses in the dark. The weeks surrounding the winter solstice have daylight appearing close to 9:00 am. If daylight saving time was permanent, we'd have children arriving at school nearly two hours before dawn.
Rubio, coming from Florida, has not likely encountered school days beginning in the dark.
Surely, the safety of children in the northern states is of greater value than evening golf.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Rather Read 3/6/2025 4:33:15 PM (No. 1909886)
I have trouble sleeping as it is. I wish they'd just set the clock and let it be.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan 3/6/2025 4:52:28 PM (No. 1909892)
I agree with #6, especially about the drive-in movies. I grew up in the 70's and I cannot tell you how many movies I saw at the drive-in. So much less expensive than a sit down theater, particularly for families. My parents used to put us in our pajamas, grab pillows and blankets and pop a HUGE bag of popcorn. And Dad always made a picnic Thermos full of lemonade to wash down the popcorn. It was amazing fun and I have lots of good memories from the drive-in movies.
As for DST, end it completely. This is 2025. It is not needed any longer, if it ever was!!!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
seamusm 3/6/2025 5:03:07 PM (No. 1909898)
DST changes need to go. But separately, the start of the school day needs to be pushed back as children are still too sleepy at 0800 to learn.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
caljeepgirl 3/6/2025 5:15:19 PM (No. 1909905)
Standard time forever, PLEZE!! Make it so!!!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
SweetPea3 3/6/2025 5:28:45 PM (No. 1909908)
Just set it, and forget it.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
JimBob 3/6/2025 5:28:50 PM (No. 1909909)
Well, fellow L-Dotters, I'm on the other side of the fence on this one.
I PREFER changing the clocks in the spring and fall!
They tried year-round DST in -I think it was 1973. It was, shall we say, Not Popular.
Where I lived in Chantilly, VA, (39 degrees N latitude) in the middle of winter all the school kids -even 1st and 2nd graders- were out there waiting for their school bus in the pre-dawn darkness. The coldest part of the day during the coldest days of the year. The Feds did away with year-round DST after that failed experiment.
On the other hand, having Standard time in the summer means that the standard workday starts a couple of hours after the sun comes up, and anyone who wants to do anything -anything, not just recreation- after work has one less hour of daylight to get it done, as they had to 'waste the daylight' waiting for the workday to start.
So, in my opinion Mr. Ben Franklin had the right approach.
It's not perfect, but it's better than the alternatives!
Oh, and all these people pee'ing and moaning about 'the DISRUPTION' that a 1-hour clock change causes..... you better not travel very far east or west, where you will go into the next time zone!
And as for the 'added hardship on Seniors'..... they're retired -I know, I'm one of 'em!- and I don't get up and go to bed 'by the clock'. We don't have to be at work on time!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
kono 3/6/2025 5:29:48 PM (No. 1909912)
If we do ditch DST, invest in a company that makes / sells blackout blinds. People will be installing those once they experience a dose of 3:30 a.m. mid-summer sunrises, streaming into their bedroom windows.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
DVC 3/6/2025 6:02:01 PM (No. 1909937)
I like Daylight Savings Time. Those who dislike it can blast away.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 3/6/2025 6:19:56 PM (No. 1909955)
DST is a royal pain the farther north you live - for example, in Seattle, the sun doesn't set until after 9:00 p.m. around summer soltice. Then, you go through civil, nautical, and astronomical twilight lasting another two hours. It doesn't get truly dark until after midnight. What good is the extra hour when you have to be at work by 7, 8 or 9 a.m. (or earlier)? You'll need blackout curtains to get a good night's rest.
I vote for standard time.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
earlybird 3/6/2025 6:32:42 PM (No. 1909964)
We would prefer DST all year long.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
stablemoney 3/6/2025 6:35:22 PM (No. 1909966)
Texas doesn't need any daylight savings time. We are waiting for the sun to set to get cooler.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
mc squared 3/6/2025 6:35:25 PM (No. 1909967)
Now that I'm retired, DST works for me. But when I was working, year round DST was a pain in the ass. Dark in the AM, dark in the PM. Bad for school kids, though.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
earlybird 3/6/2025 6:45:17 PM (No. 1909971)
When we lived in Seattle, we took our boat out on the lake after dinner. It was ,,arvelous and the boys loved it We all did. I don't see the big deal in time change. We are retired and enjoy the added daylight later i the day. My longworking grandson loves the extra daylight so that he an do hoe projects, yard work, etc.
What is the science behind DSt's or a time change's having anegative effect on persons with heart disease? And don't children have warm clothes in winter anyway? Lots of questions.
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Harlowe 3/6/2025 6:57:02 PM (No. 1909975)
“President Donald Trump told reporters at the White House he won't interfere with the decades-old process of daylight saving time. [Snip] So for now, daylight saving time remains a thing. Sort of. The U.S Navy Astronomical Applications Department points out that the state of Hawaii and most of Arizona do not observe the time change.” ~ This news was reported by Jim Mishler of Newsmax today at 4:58 PM EST.
The indifference toward very young children in bitter cold predawn darkness is heartwrenching. As for “added hardship on seniors” being retired and not having to get up and go to bed by the clock or to be at work on time, not all seniors are blessed with good health and those with heart disease do find the time change an added health hardship. For those who dislike DST can blast away, the lack of empathy for the infirm is lamentable. ~~ “Character is like a tree and reputation like a shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.” (Abraham Lincoln)
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
DVC 3/6/2025 7:09:20 PM (No. 1909992)
Re #19, but that's the wonderfulness of it.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Venturer 3/6/2025 8:12:16 PM (No. 1910042)
Keep daylight saving get rid of Standard time.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
earlybird 3/6/2025 8:24:31 PM (No. 1910056)
I still don't know what it does that harms a person with heart disease. My DIL has afib and loves DST. The change doesn't bother her either.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
hershey 3/6/2025 9:01:00 PM (No. 1910083)
Only a white man could cut a foot off a blanket and sew it on the other end and think it was longer...
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
downnout 3/6/2025 9:08:16 PM (No. 1910089)
Get rid of DST.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Harlowe 3/6/2025 11:20:49 PM (No. 1910137)
#23,#27~ SCIENCE BEHIND, WHAT IT DOES THAT HARMS A PERSON WITH HEART DISEASE:
There are four common types of heart disease: Coronary Artery Disease, Heart Failure, Arrhythmia, Valvular Heart Disease.
[Atrial fibrillation can lead to blood clots in the heart and the condition increases the risk of stroke, heart failure and other heart-related complications. Time and age take a toll.]
Excerpts from published documents:
Research suggests that chronic sleep deprivation can INCREASE LEVELS OF STRESS HORMONES THAT BOOST HEART RATE AND BLOOD PRESSURE, AND OF CHEMICALS THAT TRIGGER INFLAMMATION.
It has also been shown that BLOOD TENDS TO CLOT MORE QUICKLY IN THE MORNING. THESE CHANGES UNDERLIE EVIDENCE THAT HEART ATTACKS ARE MORE COMMON IN GENERAL IN THE MORNING, and may explain studies showing that rates increase slightly on Mondays after clocks are moved forward in the spring, when people typically rise an hour earlier than normal.
Ticking away at the molecular level, the biological clock is entrained--or set--by exposure to sunlight and darkness. It regulates bodily functions such as metabolism, BLOOD PRESSURE and hormones that promote sleep and alertness.
A study published in the Journal of the American Heart Association found that variations in sleep duration of more than two hours a night within the same week were tied to DEVELOPING HARDENED ARTERIES, KNOWN AS ATHEROSCLEROSIS.
A study published in the Journal of the American Heart Association found about 1-in-4 women MAY DEVELOP IRREGULAR HEART RHYTHMS, KNOWN AS ATRIAL FIBRILLATION, after menopause, with stressful life events and poor sleep being leading contributing factors.
“The consequences of insufficient sleep include DECREASES IN CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH, increases in diabetes and obesity, poorer mental health, lower cognitive performance, and an increase in the risk of motor vehicle accidents,” he says.
Disruptions to the body clock have been linked with obesity, depression, diabetes, HEART PROBLEMS and other conditions. Circadian biologists say these disruptions include tinkering with standard time by moving the clock ahead one hour in the spring.
THAT INCREASED RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE TIME CHANGE IS MAINLY IN PEOPLE ALREADY VULNERABLE BECAUSE OF EXISTING HEART DISEASE
A mismatch of one hour daily is enough for ill effects, especially if it lasts for several months,
According to a study of hospital admissions across Michigan, there was A 24% INCREASE IN HEART ATTACKS ON THE MONDAY FOLLOWING THE SPRING SWITCH, MOVING CLOCKS AHEAD BY AN HOUR.
“We don’t really know exactly why there is an increase in heart attacks and strokes during the change to Daylight Saving Time. IT’S LIKELY CONNECTED WITH THE DISRUPTION TO THE BODY’S INTERNAL CLOCK, OR ITS CIRCADIAN RHYTHM,” said American Heart Association clinical volunteer Dr.
“It’s important to be aware of this increased risk, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ALREADY HAVE HEART DISEASE OR OTHER RISK FACTORS.
MOVING THE CLOCKS FORWARD IN THE SPRING RESULTS IN GOING TO SLEEP AND WAKING UP BEFORE OUR INTERNAL CLOCKS ARE READY FOR US TO. This misalignment lasts for the duration of DST, Spira says, and can reduce the amount of sleep we’re able to get, TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR HEALTH.
American Academy of Sleep Medicine (AASM) - Researchers say that the change has long-term negative consequences for our bodies and minds. The evidence of health and accident risks following the change is so great that the AASM has said it favors abolishing DST entirely in favor of permanent standard time.
EYES
As an aside, research about retinal degeneration suggests by disrupting the body’s circadian clock, the body’s “eyes may be at greater risk of retinal degeneration as we age.” According to the study: “While bright light helps us see better, our eyes need darkness for better vision. Light breaks down the sensitive machinery of our eyes every day, and during the darkness of night, key pieces are rebuilt.”
CHILDREN
Most children have warm clothes for the winter but some do not. Little six-year-olds waking before the sun rises to be dressed, fed and out the door waiting for a school bus seems unnecessary and rather cruel considering in the 1940s-1950s public school hours were 8:30 AM to 11:30 AM, 90 minutes for lunch, afternoon classes from 1:00 PM to 3:30 PM.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
YorkieMom 3/6/2025 11:50:31 PM (No. 1910140)
Thank you for the info #30.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
DVC 3/7/2025 1:05:01 AM (No. 1910162)
Hmm. Did Dr. Fauci commission those DST heart studies? Are they like "ivermectin is ineffective and HCQ is dangerous" studies?
Not buying that a clock change does a damned thing to people's hearts. Silly.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Harlowe 3/7/2025 10:49:40 AM (No. 1910459)
#31~ Thank you!
#32~ Sarcasm, not buying, silly. / To each their own. For whatever it’s worth, the following resources were the references for information posted to #30.
American Academy of Sleep Medicine and the American Medical Association
American Heart Association’s Scientific Sessions 2023
Beaumont Health hospital in Royal Oak, Michigan.
Michigan - Hospital Admissions Across Michigan
Finland – Researchers
Johns Hopkins University
Journal of the American Heart Association
Ludwig-Maximilian University in Munich, Germany.
MetroHealth – Cleveland
Northwestern Medicine – Chicago
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
snakeoil 3/7/2025 4:45:08 PM (No. 1910758)
I'd like to switch to GMT and a 24 hour clock. Time is a number on a clock. What difference does it make if you get up at 0800 or 1400? I hate resetting some of my clocks that don't get the time from the internet and rotating my sundial by 15 degrees.
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