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JD Vance's childcare plan ticked off some
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Posted By: sunset, 9/15/2024 4:59:41 AM

Linda C., a retired deputy sheriff in California, considers herself politically independent. She voted for former President Donald Trump in 2016 and then for President Joe Biden in 2020. But this year, she feels strongly about supporting the Democratic ticket, largely because of the stances Republicans, including Trump's running mate, Sen. JD Vance, have taken on childcare. She was particularly perturbed by Vance's recent suggestion that grandparents and other family members "help out a little bit more" with childrearing to relieve the burden of childcare costs.

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Sad that some people have no care or interest to love and support the children in and of their family.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: anniebc 9/15/2024 6:08:57 AM (No. 1795938)
Until someone came up with the idea of germ infested daycare, family took care of family, and it didn't cost a second mortgage. It's harder to do it this way today because so many families are spread apart. My children spent less than nine months total in military base daycare, only because they and their father thought it was cool. The babies liked the toys. After a few months, my children were begging to go back to my way. I've spent most of my adult life encouraging young mothers to stay at home with their children. It's much easier to work from home today, but employers mandate that you must have childcare if your children will also be at home. It can be done. The best thing Trump can do for this country is cut government by 97%. It would eliminate a host of issues. Government is the problem. It's everywhere and in everything making a mess continually.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: ARKfamily 9/15/2024 6:09:57 AM (No. 1795939)
I can't read the article but if I understand what is being said here, what the heck is wrong with grandparents, parents, helping their children?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: voxpopuli 9/15/2024 6:11:03 AM (No. 1795940)
BI. nothing to do with business Left of the NYT Garbage
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Reply 4 - Posted by: kdog 9/15/2024 7:17:57 AM (No. 1795952)
Democrats will support a Democrat even if they don't agree with a single thing they stand for. Republicans will turn their back on a Republican if there is only a single thing they don't agree with. It's infuriating.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: chumley 9/15/2024 7:31:11 AM (No. 1795963)
I grew up in a nuclear family where Dad worked and provided for the family while Mom stayed home and ran herd on all us wild Indians (to use her words). Luckily I found a girl with similar values and have been married to her for almost 45 years. It can be done if you dont live beyond your means, then you dont need to pay strangers to indoctrinate your kids.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: franq 9/15/2024 7:35:20 AM (No. 1795965)
Seems like article is behind a paywall. I have my own thoughts on grandparents rearing children, and they are probably not popular. We raised 5 on one income, until they hit high school, and yes, there were many a week we had less than 5 bucks in the checkbook until payday. We call it "The Lean Times". Two sinister factors are in play - expectations of young marrieds, and outrageous costs (a lot of it driven by government and regulations). Have you priced a car seat lately? Furthermore, marriage is actually discouraged by welfare and other assistance programs. So we have a big mess today.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Penelope27 9/15/2024 7:38:53 AM (No. 1795967)
I had my ups and downs with my parents, but as a teenage mom, I was so grateful to have left my son with them as I went to work. These were the important bonding years. Since I could not be there, he bonded with them instead of strangers. They took excellent care of him.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 9/15/2024 7:50:22 AM (No. 1795977)
Childcare is not even on our top ten list of major problems. Actual real child care would be ridding the country of murdering, raping, thieving illegal aliens and putting the thousands of criminals running the streets into prison. Improving the schools so they don't continue turning out morons would be a nice touch. Having a child means that you signed up to work harder to give that kid a good start in life so suck it up buttercup. You voted for Biden so you aren't very bright, I hope your child inherited the father's brains. The majority of Grandparents already help a lot.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Skinnydip 9/15/2024 8:04:09 AM (No. 1795991)
Please don't post articles with pay walls. It's frustrating.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: hershey 9/15/2024 8:22:46 AM (No. 1796002)
Anyone who decides to vote demcommie, shouldn't waste the time...
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Reply 11 - Posted by: sunshinehorses 9/15/2024 8:27:47 AM (No. 1796006)
What many of you are missing is the fact that grandparents are still working when their grandchildren are born. In this economy most cannot retire early and both grandparents are still working to make ends meet after raising their kids. Grandparents can be as young as in their 40s. They are not the "old" folks thought of as retired and rocking on the front porch. I was able to help with my youngest and last granddaughter because I was no longer working. This turned out to be a blessing for all as she became Type I diabetic and if not for me being able to take care of her, my daughter would not have been able to work.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: preciosodrogas 9/15/2024 8:45:12 AM (No. 1796017)
I could not get into the article. however, my comment goes along the line of where in the heck does the Constitution grant the federal government the power to tax the people to pay for the child care of others? Why would this be an issue for Vance to get involved? Does the Trump proposed administration propose to govern child care? I don't know, maybe the article answers these questions, but I would like to think the Trump presidency will lean a whole lot closer to the constitutional enumerated powers. He did with abortion so he does understand the concept.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ARKfamily 9/15/2024 9:06:12 AM (No. 1796024)
#6, have you priced the cost of daycare? #12, nothing wrong with JD Vance making people aware. . .
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Reply 14 - Posted by: chance_232 9/15/2024 9:07:44 AM (No. 1796026)
Contraception is by far cheaper and more readily available than childcare or a baby sitter. Just sayin'. Once upon a time, people tended to live close to family, and if family wasn't available neighbors would help. In thus day and age, family is nowhere to be found and most don't know who their neighbors are. This is not the country that I grew up in.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ebenezer 9/15/2024 9:10:04 AM (No. 1796028)
I think everyone's missing the point here. With all the problems we face, she's going to cast her vote based on--childcare? I understand that people vote for their self-interest, but does she really think she'll get less taxpayer-provided childcare if Trump is elected? It's voters like this who are going to destroy this country.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: ARKfamily 9/15/2024 9:25:39 AM (No. 1796034)
#12, as I think more about your answer, the more it bothers me. I learned yesterday that the average cost of daycare in our area is $2000 a month. Just wondering how many posters know that?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Namma 9/15/2024 9:27:44 AM (No. 1796035)
When our daughter asked us if we could watch our grandchildren twice a week instead of having them in daycar, we jumped at the chance. We loved it. We taught them so many things and had so much fun with the kids! We did not hesitate to watch our grandkids. Grandparents are so much better then daycare! Problem is now two parent have to work. the government wanted it this way. helps destroy the family. My mom stayed home with kids. My Dad worked. When I married I stayed home with our children. My husband provided for us. He brought home the bacon, I cooked it. Thats the way it should be.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Daisymay 9/15/2024 9:32:41 AM (No. 1796036)
Back in the Day, late 50's, when my first child was born, my husband and I decided he would work and I would stay Home and raise our family. We were not poor, but McDonalds on Friday night (payday) was our Big Treat! We had Hand-me-Down furniture and Appliances and a very small TV. One Car (hubby took it to Work). I went to the grocery story on Saturday because that was the day I had a Car! We were Happy and loved our family which rapidly grew until we had Three Children by the time we were 25! Most of my Neighbors lived the same way. If someone needed a Babysitter Grandma came over or one of my Friends would take the Kids and I would do the same for them when they needed someone. We lived on a Budget and yes, there wasn't much left over at the end of the month, but we were happy with our life and our children grew to be well behaved Teens and then Adult who understood they would be responsible for the Life they choose. Now, the Kids live at home until they are 30, mooch off their parents (who happily let them do so), some work from Home and some don't work at all (again their parents allow this), so now they are the Stupid Democrats who are roaming the streets, throwing paint at Statues and screaming that Israel should be done away with! Nothing wrong with wishing we could go back to the "Good Old Days" when life was simple and people were not Lazy! Back then, we actually loved our Country, stood for the National Anthem and felt WE were responsible for raising our own family!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: tootall 9/15/2024 10:10:58 AM (No. 1796052)
Clickbait to get subscriptions. Also Agit-prop. Any shot the left MSM can take they will. I thought they were in favor of aborting infants?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: paral04 9/15/2024 10:16:16 AM (No. 1796057)
Vance is right. The government didn't issue those children and are the parents responsibility. Any help they get from the community is a blessing. Our problem is that people want to much early in life and have all kinds of "toys" that could be eliminated and the money used to care for their children.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: jalo1951 9/15/2024 10:48:47 AM (No. 1796073)
A lot of couples would be surprised to learn how much it costs for the wife to work outside the home compared to staying home. Clothes, car/gas/parking, lunches, daycare costs put up against her salary. Unless she had a high paying salary it might not be worth it. Relying on your parents or in-laws is not acceptable. Now and then is okay but everyday - no. Some are still working, many are older, and a lot of them still have their own lives to live. It is something that would need to be discussed and not assumed. I was lucky that I did not go back to work until my son was in the 1st grade and the job I took was at his school. It pretty much was perfect. My mother was a full time nurse but would stop by once or twice a week to watch the baby while I showered and took a quick nap. It was very much appreciated. My husband's step-mother watched my son exactly twice in his life. So grandparents are not built in babysitters. When I was home we did without any extras. We paid bills, bought groceries and tried to save a bit. But that was it. No charge cards to rack up debt (we still do not have any charge cards). Young adults want it all and they want it all right now. Bad way to live your life. It boils down to FKH wants me to pay for someone else's college education, make their house down payment, and not pay for their babysitter. You need to figure it out and leave me out of your plans.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 9/15/2024 11:04:23 AM (No. 1796080)
A willing and capable grandmother and an appreciative child is a beautiful thing, and a benefit to the grands. I have a few friends who do full time day care for their grandchildren. But when their kids go on lavish vacations, I remind them that they paid for that trip.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: felixcat 9/15/2024 11:21:03 AM (No. 1796092)
Gee Linda C - what did parents do before there were daycare centers, after school care, etc? Hmm - the family helped the family out. And quite frankly, your grandkids are not my responsibility but through my taxes and subsidies to daycare centers, etc., I'm helping to take care of them. You're not in my village and I don't live in yours.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: earlybird 9/15/2024 11:26:07 AM (No. 1796095)
My parents stepped up years ago when suitable trustworthy care for my children was not to be found. I and my now-grown sons bless them every minute of every day. And miss them so...
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Reply 25 - Posted by: earlybird 9/15/2024 11:39:23 AM (No. 1796099)
I scrolled past the Sign Up rubbish and read the entire article. To those criticizing working mothers of young children, that broad brush is mindless and nasty. Not all of us worked by choice. We had to.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: red1066 9/15/2024 11:40:41 AM (No. 1796100)
Heaven forbid these parents and grandparents lift a finger to help their kids. I guess their mindset is that's government's job to help out. As for the clueless idiot in California, please stay there and don't pollute any other state with your thinking and voting.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Kate318 9/15/2024 12:10:00 PM (No. 1796122)
This scenario is such BS, and dems try to use it constantly. Nobody who voted for President Trump in 2016, turns around and votes for a vegetable. Both my husband and I helped raise our granddaughters, as both parents worked. We were still working, as well, but both owned businesses, so we could be flexible. What we weren’t able to do, my DIL’s parents took on. How I wish I would’ve had loving grandparents to help with my children. The reality of the current culture is grandparents helping to raise the children.
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