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The vital question that physical science
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Posted By: Hazymac, 10/3/2023 11:26:50 AM

What is the only observable physical phenomenon that science cannot explain? It is perhaps the most important one of all. Let's use an analogy. Suppose that the government were to commission a study about music. Suppose further that the study were restricted to answering a specific question: how does music arise from a musical instrument? The study might begin by surveying a particular musical instrument — let us say the French horn. It would examine its shape, its parts, its constituent metals, and the acoustics involved in producing the music that emanates from it. How far would such a study get in its mission

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Reply 1 - Posted by: TexaTucky 10/3/2023 11:33:45 AM (No. 1568374)
One day we are going to science our way into the realization that there may, in fact, be a Creator who set all this in motion.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Quigley 10/3/2023 11:48:31 AM (No. 1568388)
FTA: “ It was said by one of the Founders, John Adams, that "our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Well, that explains everything. That moral and religious people must understand where everything they have comes from and have the moral and religious conviction to prevent its erosion. And, to the main point of the article, “I think therefore I am”, or “I am therefore I can think” ?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: thomthomp 10/3/2023 12:23:39 PM (No. 1568422)
Newtonian physics, which works quite well at the level of our daily life. Is very deterministic. If you know the conditions of a particle (or a rocket or a cannonball) at one point in time you can determine with certainly where it will be at another point in time. This left no room for free will, and there is much that Newtonian physics cannot explain. But discoveries in the tiny, tiny realm of quantum physics reveals a world of uncertainties and probabilities where the characteristics of a particle depend on someone looking at it, leading some scientists to suggest that it is not the universe that created life but life that creates the universe. https://www.amazon.com/Biocentrism-Consciousness-Understanding-Nature-Universe/dp/1935251740/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=58901390834&hvadid=580884301820&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9027200&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=3429296833289731444&hvtargid=kwd-301483471583&hydadcr=15149_13523058&keywords=robert+lanza+biocentrism&qid=1696349047&sr=8-1
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Reply 4 - Posted by: davew 10/3/2023 1:02:02 PM (No. 1568476)
If the brain is not the organ of consciousness, what is unconsciousness? Illusions? Death? What we experience as consciousness is an illusion crafted by natural selection to predict the state of a world beyond the physical body that we experience through our senses. The frequency and interconnectedness of trillions of synapses synchronize through the brains electromagnetic field created by ion potential channels in the neurons. The patterns created by this resonating field, including reinforcement from memory patterns, determines what we see, hear, touch, taste, feel, and imagine. Everything, including what you think of as "you" is a hallucination. The problem with this realization is that it leads to nihilistic philosophy. The antidote to this is to find meaning in things like religion, music, science, art, and self-realizing philosophies like Jung's individuation. Finding meaning in life is an act of supreme human will and distinguishes us from all other beings.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: ThreeBadCats3 10/3/2023 1:07:00 PM (No. 1568479)
A related question might be the concept of “time”. St. Augustine discussed this in The Confessions, one of the most profound books ever written, I think. There is no definition of the Moment, as it has already passed. People think they are so smart, but even the most basic things can’t be defined or comprehended.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Poorboy 10/3/2023 1:20:20 PM (No. 1568484)
MWI, the "many-worlds interpretation," proposed by some as a solution to explain certain quantum mechanics phenomena, reformulates the Cartesian "Cogito ergo sum" (I think therefore I am) into "Cogito ergo est," (I think therefore it exists)...that each individual, making innumerable moment-to-moment choices, causes the spin-off of a staggering number of alternate universes to accomodate all the possible "roads not taken," with each of us as a lower-case creator with powers beyond our wildest imaginings. I am familiar with JBS Haldane's "The universe is not only queerer than we imagine, it is queerer than we CAN imagine," but MWI is balderdash..
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Reply 7 - Posted by: padiva 10/3/2023 2:35:22 PM (No. 1568525)
If the Earth fell, where would it fall to?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MrDeplorable 10/3/2023 5:03:48 PM (No. 1568600)
Does ANYONE here understand what I mean when I answer Mr Arvay's question with the simple phrase "Existence exists?" No? I thought not. Please excuse the interruption.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: czechlist 10/3/2023 6:48:37 PM (No. 1568693)
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Albert Einstein
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