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A New Disaster is Unfolding in Chernobyl

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Posted By: Magnante, 4/5/2022 9:20:41 AM

Forty-five years ago, a combination of defective Soviet technology, poor planning, and an all-encompassing need to please the communist bureaucracy unleashed hundreds of tons of radioactive poison. (snip) serious problems begin when you start to disturb the ground. The strontium 90 and cesium 137 that seeped into the ground are still there. Even at 35%, they are still admitting very dangerous levels of a poison that no one can taste, see, smell, or feel. (snip) Putin’s forces overran the plant on February 24. In building their defensive positions, Putin’s troops dug foxholes, 6-foot-deep trenches, and revetment for tanks and artillery pieces into the earth south and west of the plant.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Quigley 4/5/2022 9:35:06 AM (No. 1119851)
I think when there are this many failures there needs to be a clean sweep of management. The deep state- or establishment- needs to go. Bidet is the most enfeebled of the weak and they would foist his angry dithering on us rather than give up power until they had somebody competent. And publicly justify it by demonizing their opponents by corrupting or institutions. Clean sweep.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Wetenschapper 4/5/2022 9:36:03 AM (No. 1119853)
Last week, Russia was claiming that a few dozen of its soldiers had been poisoned after having been given vodka or bread rolls by Ukrainian civilians. I wondered at the time why any these men would have accepted such gifts from a people who have no reason to have anything but hatred for them. Could these alleged 'poisonings' perhaps have been a coverup for radiation poisoning suffered at Chernobyl?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 4/5/2022 10:33:20 AM (No. 1119922)
The disaster is the constant fear mongering.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Anti_democRAT 4/5/2022 10:44:58 AM (No. 1119931)
Find it hard to believe that russian military is this radioactivity dumb. Seems the press in a way is doing what they have done in all wars, dehumanizing the so called enemy.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 4/5/2022 10:49:15 AM (No. 1119933)
So I guess their public schools suck, also.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: thefield 4/5/2022 11:12:00 AM (No. 1119951)
Worked at several nukes, we were closely monitored. Can't figure out why the Ruskies wanted anything to do with that spot, yuk!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Geoman 4/5/2022 11:52:36 AM (No. 1120003)
For some reason, the author appears confused as to when the disaster at Chernobyl occurred. 45 years ago would be 1977, the year reactors 1 and 2 were constructed; reactors 3 and 4 were finished in 1983. My nuclear physics class used Chernobyl as a case study in what not to do in the harnessing of nuclear power and the dangers to humans of Cesium 137, a fission product of uranium 235, common to nuclear medicine, nuclear reactors, and nuclear weapons. The Chernobyl disaster occurred in 1986, 36 years ago. There is nothing fake about the reactor's release of deadly gamma radiation and the fact that contaminated soil around Chernobyl is still deadly to humans and other mammals.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: skacmar 4/5/2022 12:05:05 PM (No. 1120017)
Just waiting for a "stray" Russian missile to "accidentally" hit the cement encased melted down reactor from the infamous disaster.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: red1066 4/5/2022 12:15:49 PM (No. 1120032)
Visitors to Chernobyl were expected to stay only a short period of time for a reason. The radiation will be there for thousands of years. Seems the Russian military doesn't give a damn about its soldiers in forcing them to dig in extremely radioactive ground knowing the danger it would cause to them.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rinktum 4/5/2022 1:35:07 PM (No. 1120126)
Who in their right mind would think that actual digging around Chernobyl is a good idea? This really is a no brainer. I wouldn’t go near that place let alone, dig a hole there!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Cynical Backstory 4/5/2022 1:49:40 PM (No. 1120143)
This doesn’t make sense the Chernobyl dangers are common knowledge world wide, at least I thought so. I’ve been reading Chernobyl updates for years. Twenty years ago I read about America developing robots to patrol and monitor that area. Are Russians kept that stupid? I wouldn’t send my worst enemy into that hellscape.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 4/5/2022 1:49:43 PM (No. 1120145)
The Cesium 137 is a bigger problem than the strontium. Cesium decay produces high energy beta particles which can punch deep into the body, and also gamma rays which can penetrate all the way through the body and cause serious damage. Cesium is water soluble, so has been dissolved by rain and leached down into the soil of the decades. The soil above it acts as shielding, and absorbs the radioactive emissions, harmlessly. Dig up the soil, and now all that radioactive cesium, which HAD been working it's way down away from people and animals, is now brought back to the surface, and it causes serious radiation exposure harm. I suspect that the soldiers who dug trenches and foxholes and stayed in them for weeks will be getting sick and have increased chances for cancers and genetic harm. The strontium 90 problem is if the dust gets into food, from dirty hands or just blowing around. Living in a foxhole increases the chances of ingestion. If ingested, radioactive strontium 90 will be absorbed into the blood and then deposited into bones, permanently, where it will irradiate the person from inside for the next 50+ years, causing harm from INSIDE due to radioactive bones. Don't play in the fallout. It's not smart.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ikeschild 4/5/2022 2:22:25 PM (No. 1120190)
Pretty sure the Ukrainians knew enough to stay away from there - so digging-in against a(n) Ukrainian attack at Chernobyl was just stupid from the get go.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: LoneVoice 4/6/2022 3:58:55 AM (No. 1120647)
7 Russian generals have been taken out by Ukrainian snipers so far. Ukraine forces have beaten back the far larger and far better equipped Russian forces. I don’t think Russian generals are all that bright. Of course they ordered their own troops into Chernobyl and ordered them to dig trenches.
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