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The Fall of the USS Gettysburg

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Posted By: Christopher L, 2/28/2025 3:50:21 PM

At around 0300, on Sunday, 22 December, the Aegis cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64) shot down an F/A-18F preparing to land on USS Harry S Truman (CVN 75) while operating in the Red Sea. First, we all need to understand that there is only one man who knows what happened on that day, and that is the commanding officer of Gettysburg.  Gettysburg’s captain knows what happened in terms of the detailed events, unless the failure was the result of identifiable human error, understand why certain things did happen. That level of detail may only be revealed in the post-mortem. 

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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley 2/28/2025 4:12:30 PM (No. 1905801)
The identification system they describe sounds way too complicated and way too computerized. The more links you put in a chain, the more likely you are to get a weak one. I'm glad I dont have to figure this one out.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 2/28/2025 4:20:39 PM (No. 1905806)
Shooting down friendly aircraft in the pattern is never OK. There needs to be some serious thought given to how the system is going to change to make it not happen again. And "we'll try harder and be more careful next time" does not sound reassuring; There is some flaw in the system, and that needs to be fixed.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 2/28/2025 7:12:49 PM (No. 1905898)
An F/A-18 "preparing to land" on a carrier is probably 1 to 2 minutes (max) from being safe on the deck. The cruiser correctly identified it as a friendly based on the jet's IFF squawk but then went to flight quarters and shut down some radars per procedure. Launching or recovering a helo from a cruiser takes far more than two minutes, so why the jet was still airborne when it was reacquired doesn't add up. Was it even the same aircraft? nds like many things that could go wrong, did - critical software bugs, systems down, lack of training,
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Reply 4 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 2/28/2025 7:49:41 PM (No. 1905910)
Sorry, hit submit too soon. An F/A-18 "preparing to land" on a carrier is probably 1 to 2 minutes (max) from being safe on the deck. The cruiser correctly identified it as a friendly based on the jet's IFF squawk but then went to flight quarters and shut down some radars per procedure. Launching or recovering a helo from a cruiser takes far more than two minutes, so why the jet was still airborne when it was reacquired doesn't add up. Was it even the same aircraft? How could it self-identify as friendly one minute and then hostile a few minutes later? I'm only sitting here in my house but I can't fault individuals, based on what is presented in the article. Rather - three, concurrent, major system flaws: 1. Cooperative Engagement Capability was down. These sort of things happen, but when they do there should be extra eyes on everything - extra eyes that CEC was designed to replace. Were there? 2. IFF Command and Decision software installed and being used with known - and apparently, major - bugs, although unknown to the ship's operators. Yikes!!! 3. Link 16 data not emanating from the jet. Why? The days of a lookout spotting an aircraft through binoculars and reporting it to the bridge are long gone. Everything - searching, locating, identifyng, targeting - is now done electronically, as hypersonic missiles will allow only a few seconds to accomplish all of those. It was 3 in the morning, and the crew had been fighting off UAV approaches. They were no doubt fatigued (been there). We ask a lot from these kids, and in this era of button pushing there needs to be 100% reliability within the sophisticated and complex combat systems when those buttons are pushed.
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