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Let's Aim for Historical Accuracy

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Posted By: rememberwhen, 1/3/2025 3:55:25 PM

As an amateur historian -- and probably not a good one -- I go nuts when I see amateurish fictions tendered as core premises. This is no more frequently found than in Hollywood; but do not kid yourself, it is not confined to Hollywood...Of course, there are other mistakes, but the grandest mistake of all is Islam. It is now coming out into the popular realm that the historicity of Mohammed may be a total fabrication. Not merely a distortion, but a total fabrication. Robert Spencer has written a polemic questioning the whole historicity of Islam’s founder. And not just Robert Spencer, but Dr. Jay Smith.

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Is it possible that the very existence of Mohammad, the high prophet of Islam is a complete fabrication and never existed? That Islam itself is a total fraud? Konrad makes a solid scholarly case for that proposition.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: seamusm 1/3/2025 4:49:12 PM (No. 1866163)
If Konrad is your real name you had better hide, sir. These people do not take questioning, let alone criticism, lightly.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Venturer 1/3/2025 4:52:45 PM (No. 1866166)
I certainly do not know about the historical fact of Islam's existence, but I do know that calling it a religion is wrong . The is God. There is no Allah. The two could not exist in the same dimension, unless Allah is Satan by another name.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: kdog 1/3/2025 5:59:35 PM (No. 1866187)
Perhaps this is why violence and purge is the solution to "non believers". Too many holes in the story.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: JimBob 1/3/2025 7:54:07 PM (No. 1866217)
For years, I have believed -and said- that 'Anthropogenic Climate Disruption' (I THINK that's what they're calling it these days) was the biggest SCAM in history. If this writer is correct, I'll have to demote Anthropogenic Climate Disruption' to SECOND biggest SCAM in history.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JHHolliday 1/3/2025 9:12:14 PM (No. 1866267)
As #1 posted, he had better hide himself and use an alias. The "religion of peace" will kill him if they can find him. Actually, many of them will kill any infidel given the chance. I cannot for the life of me understand the embrace of these cultists by the left.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird 1/3/2025 9:21:30 PM (No. 1866275)
Absolutely fascinating. Should be a Must Read.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: 5 handicap 1/4/2025 5:47:47 AM (No. 1866386)
There will never be peace in the world until Islam is entirely eradicated, Churchill said it best: Islam in a man is like Rabies in a dog!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: FLCracker 1/4/2025 1:01:46 PM (No. 1866704)
I have been reading up on this stuff for years. I've read Crone's paper on "Hagarism" (proto-Islam) and a couple of others. I am intrigued and liked what she had to say. Unfortunately, her writing style is - shall we say - not user friendly. She was an academic, writing for other academics. She knew she was going to be nitpicked to death on every jot and tittle. (An appropriate allusion, given the subject here.) Robert Spencer has valid points but I don't trust his citations much and he has a tendency to rant, which makes me cautious of him. I've read his "Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins", both the 2012 and 2024 updated versions. (I just saw that he is also a blogger. That explains a few things.) I VERY much recommend "In God's Path: The Arab Conquests and the Creation of the Islamic Empire" by Robert G. Hoyland, Oxford University Press, 2015. It doesn't discuss the development of Islam, per se, but it's in there. Hoyland has a very readable writing style, logical organization and maps that you can read. I also recommend "In the Shadow of the Sword: The Birth of Islam and the Rise of Global Arab Empire" by Tom Holland, Anchor Books (Random House), 2012. He does get into the development of Islam, pretty much covering all the major religions in the area at the time AND their various sects, divisions, off-shoots, etc. It is readable, but his complicated subject and the amount of information makes it hard to present it in a straightforward way. Stick with it. All of the above available through Amazon.com. However, Crone's "Hagarism" costs $350 in paperback and almost $2000 in hardback. (I have an obscure digital copy of her paper, not in book form.)
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Tukaram 1/4/2025 4:35:53 PM (No. 1866789)
I've read the Quran many times, in many translations, and also the Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad. Nothing in this speculative essay strikes me as remotely on the mark with respect to the likely truth.
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