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The Phony War

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Posted By: DVC, 6/19/2024 2:12:31 PM

Back in the last century (the 1990s), we “old-timers” in the armed forces wore uniforms of blue, green, khaki, or white slacks, skirts (for women only) and pressed shirts, complete with jackets and ties. Most of us worked side by side with civilian office workers, especially at the Pentagon. Some of us worked with equipment, or in labs, or in environments that required physical labor and had to get permission to wear utility or battle dress uniforms (BDUs) and boots. Camouflage often drew questioning looks, as if we were deliberately flouting the prescribed professional office attire.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 6/19/2024 2:13:58 PM (No. 1740046)
And it appears that Israel has finally actually seen the light on armed civilians, although one Israeli-American doctor has said "it's really, really strict. The process is annoying. It's long. It takes a while. There's multiple layers of bureaucratic review." But better than nothing. I don't like NPR...but FWIW.... https://www.npr.org/2024/01/10/1224042094/israels-government-is-encouraging-gun-ownership-by-loosening-the-rules
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Birddog 6/19/2024 4:00:23 PM (No. 1740098)
He talks about US Military wearing camo in civilian and govt spaces...The Vindemon Brothers wore civilian designer suits and ties to "work" in the Whitehouse...then carried their dress uniforms to the Capitol Bldg, where a changing room was provided for them so that for their televised Congressional Appearances they were in gold braided Military garb, replete with dress medals...in fact MORE medals than dress code allowed. In Iraq, for the Joey Biden visits, son Beau wore combat garb, though he was a Lawyer, training Local Judges, in a civilian area of one of Saddams former palaces, AND for those photo-ops Beau donned a shoulder holster and firearm, though no one else anywhere NEAR the VIP motorcade, let alone in the buildings visited, was armed in any way. Only the SS agents and distant perimeter guards carried weapons. There were NO hostile acts in the vicinity, and it was the most secure location in the WORLD at that point...not a "Combat Post". It was patently obvious it was for "Show" in that his leather shoulder rig was BRAND NEW, not broken in at all, didn't even conform to his body. Even similarly ranked officers that WERE in combat posts generally wore sidearms at their belt, not shoulder rigs, if they wore a gun at all.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 6/19/2024 4:45:48 PM (No. 1740122)
His main point is that US military should be armed when on the job, in uniform, at least with sidearms (handguns). In multiple terrorist attacks on military bases, our officers and soldiers have been unable to defend themselves right in their own working spaces, on base. THIS is absolutely insane.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 6/19/2024 7:39:39 PM (No. 1740178)
Everyone should be carrying, civvies or uniform.
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Posted by DVC 6/19/2024 2:12:31 PM Post Reply
Back in the last century (the 1990s), we “old-timers” in the armed forces wore uniforms of blue, green, khaki, or white slacks, skirts (for women only) and pressed shirts, complete with jackets and ties. Most of us worked side by side with civilian office workers, especially at the Pentagon. Some of us worked with equipment, or in labs, or in environments that required physical labor and had to get permission to wear utility or battle dress uniforms (BDUs) and boots. Camouflage often drew questioning looks, as if we were deliberately flouting the prescribed professional office attire.
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