New study: Copper mines can’t extract
enough material needed for EVs
American Thinker,
by
Olivia Murray
Original Article
Posted By: DVC,
5/28/2024 12:30:32 PM
A team of University of Michigan researchers recently discovered that the amount of copper needed to keep up with the manufactured demand created by the globalist E.V. agenda is “essentially impossible” to generate. [snip]
Copper cannot be mined quickly enough to keep up with current policies requiring the transition to electric vehicles (EVs),
[snip] ... would outstrip what copper mines can produce at the current rate. Between 2018 and 2050, the world will need to mine 115% more copper than has been mined in all of human history up until 2018 just to meet current copper needs without considering the green energy transition.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Northcross 5/28/2024 12:36:45 PM (No. 1726568)
Since we will no longer have enough electricity to meet our needs, nobody will need copper wires, so it is a win-win for the liberal Luddites.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Newtsche 5/28/2024 12:55:04 PM (No. 1726587)
"We have a copper mineshaft gap!" - Dr. Strangelove
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
felixcat 5/28/2024 1:14:52 PM (No. 1726598)
Every MAGA or conservative Republican candidate running for office this year should run ads showing some Lefty talking about climate change and in the background: images of dead whales, children digging in mines in the Congo, land stripped bare of trees, etc.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
voxpopuli 5/28/2024 1:30:42 PM (No. 1726607)
minnesota has the largest copper supply in the US
if not the world, but
the ecoterrorists under Red Walz have stopped all
mining in minnesota
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 5/28/2024 1:38:48 PM (No. 1726612)
The spot price of copper is currently at an all-time high of $4.84/pound. Stockpiles of copper cathode are at an all-time low.
All of this comes to you as a consequence of biden the cheater's moronic environmental permitting system. The Environmental Protection Agency is a joke. Many state agencies are, too. Inefficiencies are built into the permitting process with one purpose in mind - to make it as difficult as possible to get a new mining facility designed, built, and operational et alone getting permits to expand an existing mine. The blame rests squarely with federal and state government. It's how the tree-huggers make their living. Biden the cheater's administration in its infinite green wisdom or lack thereof, just seems to think that copper grows on trees waiting to be taken.
Experiencing it firsthand, it takes at least 10 years and at enormous expense to secure the permits needed to commence operations in the U.S. To put it into better perspective, in Canada and Australia, despite socialism being quite well in both countries and with similarly overly stringent environmental regulations, the average permitting period is two years.
Before I retired, my employer, Freeport McMoRan's executive team, had testified before congress many times explaining that the only way it will build and operate a new copper mine in America to meet demand is only if the permitting process is streamlined drastically and all deadwood within the process is eliminated. This deadwood includes thousands of human parasites who hate America and hate mining. When you challenge them to remove everything they are wearing that contains minerals mined from the earth, they will find themselves standing there butt naked. Freeport's CEO, Richard Atkinson, recently testified before congress and was quite blunt, once again, and said (I'm paraphrasing here) - you want your ecars and no more mines at the same time? Are you people even on the same planet as us?
Think about OP's excellent comment. And it won't be just ammo brass that sky rockets in price.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
snakeoil 5/28/2024 1:49:26 PM (No. 1726621)
At one time copper theft was a major crime problem. Then the price went way down and copper theft was not much of a problem. Now the price of copper is going up. Glad I purchased a cage for my AC unit.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
OhioNick 5/28/2024 2:09:21 PM (No. 1726632)
At the current price of copper, the value of 100 pre-1982 U.S. cents is $3.04. However, it's illegal to melt down coins -- for now.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 5/28/2024 2:09:36 PM (No. 1726634)
Eventually the government will want old copper pennies turned in so they can melt them down.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 5/28/2024 2:37:46 PM (No. 1726651)
Interesting part of the whole scheme that there simply won't be enough copper to meet the goals (more like aspirations) of the government affiliated entities demanding things happen at a date specific deadline without knowing what is required to do so.
Sounds very much like government where they don't worry about money since there is always more from the taxpayers, after all. Or, being held accountable, unless you're Republican.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
NYbob 5/28/2024 2:43:38 PM (No. 1726657)
Don't worry. The new Great Depression/plague/depopulation/Nuclear war will curtail the sale of any new cars. Except for lobbyists, congress and the millions of Fed workers. Numerous as they are, that won't be enough for any EV boom or even enough to keep autoworkers employed.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Schnapps 5/28/2024 3:49:13 PM (No. 1726687)
No problem. Someone in government is going to come up with the Marie-Antoinette solution....
"The people don't have enough copper? Let them use silver." /s
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
planetgeo 5/28/2024 4:25:41 PM (No. 1726708)
This is not a new finding. There have been other studies on other metals besides copper over the last couple of years. Why is this not being brought up in Congress? This country is being driven over a cliff and no effort in Congress is being made to turn things around.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
LadyHen 5/28/2024 4:34:55 PM (No. 1726712)
Elemental materials are finite. These EV batteries have to be one of the worst inventions for the environment ever. Obviously procuring the materials is dangerous, terrible for land and water tables, and expensive but another big question is what happens when they dispose of these things? What a scam!
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Copper shortages will, of course, cause massive increases in copper prices, which will dramatically increase the cost of those already too expensive EVs.
If you think the price of ammo is high now, just wait until they make copper (which is 70% of the brass cases in ammunition) quadruples in price due to massive copper shortages caused by EVs.