Vladimir Putin meets Tucker Carlson for
rare interview with western media
The Guardian,
by
Staff
Original Article
Posted By: FormerDem,
2/8/2024 9:16:04 PM
Tucker Carlson and Vladimir Putin were in the spotlight on Thursday night, as the divisive, Trump-supporting rightwing commentator interviewed the reclusive Russian autocrat.
The interview, filmed in Moscow, was Putin’s first with a western media outlet since Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022. [snip] Carlson’s trip to Moscow had been widely criticised ahead of the interview. But the opening of the two-hour conversation between the former Fox News host and Putin was a let down.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
DVC 2/8/2024 9:21:42 PM (No. 1653755)
The only "opening to peace" with Putin is Ukraine under the boot heel of Russia.
Putin is a reincarnation of Stalin, only more evil.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
RidgePole 2/8/2024 9:39:29 PM (No. 1653773)
#1, is that you Victoria Nuland? Did you even watch the full 2-hr. interview?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
jntsrgn 2/8/2024 9:43:32 PM (No. 1653781)
Zelenskyy is a Putin wannabe and just as much a criminal.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Kate318 2/8/2024 9:44:09 PM (No. 1653782)
I haven’t watched all of this interview, although I intend to. I joined Tucker’s website in order to do so. What I did see was a man who had a better grasp on who America is in the world now, and who she was and who she should be. Think about that for a minute. A former KGB communist has more understanding and respect for who we are than our own government. I also saw a very robust man, not the defeated, at-death’s-door failure we’ve been told he is. I find myself envious that the Russians have a strong, determined leader who loves his country and its people. There was a time that I completely bought the government narrative on this guy. But, the past 3-1/2 years have made me do some serious re-evaluation of everything I’ve ever been told about the world.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
stablemoney 2/8/2024 10:01:20 PM (No. 1653792)
Any settlement on Ukraine by the US will have to start with the US admitting massive mistakes committed by the uniparty in that country. Start with the truth from both sides, then go from there.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
VAPMAN 2/8/2024 10:26:12 PM (No. 1653807)
I watched the entire interview. Putin certainly didn’t appear to be dying of cancer (fake news) and seemed quite in control of his thoughts. He rambled on a lot about the historic relationship between Russia and Ukraine. He mentioned instances where he felt the U.S. had let Russia down, especially soon after the fall of the communist Soviet Union. I got the impression that he would be open to a negotiated peace, but it won’t happen with the jerks currently running our country. I suspect that newly re-elected President Trump would get a peace accord in a short time.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
HicoKid 2/8/2024 10:40:30 PM (No. 1653815)
It's painful to realize that our government is run by the CIA, MIC and global opportunists. There is no one in our elected government with the intellectual heft of our founding fathers, or even Vladimir Putin.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 2/8/2024 10:41:54 PM (No. 1653817)
Re #2, I spent a decade working in Russia, before during and after Putin's corrupt rise to dictatorship. I was in Moscow when he had a reporter who dared to do a story about his corruption shot dead on the streets of Moscow. Two separate times, months apart.
I always love how Americans are so arrogant that they imagine that they understand Russia and Russians without actually even going there, and maybe meeting Russian Uber driver as their basis for their expertise, or a locked down tourist visit to St. Petersburg, if any visit at all.
I worked with a lot of their top scientists and engineers for a decade. And I thought that they were 'just like us', exactly the same way all other ignorant Americans do.
But, after about five years, I started to get a clue, and by a decade, I was certain. They are, mostly, NOT at all like us.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
LadyHen 2/9/2024 1:44:28 AM (No. 1653870)
Enlighten us #8.. how are they NOT like their great moral free betters that are US, other than they having come through probably the most horrific social experiment (Communism in a once Christian nation) that has ever occurred on this Earth? We all grew up in the free US, pampered, safe, and educated with little or no REAL hardship. We have exactly what right to judge them with the corruption that is the norm in DC today?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
watashiyo 2/9/2024 6:09:53 AM (No. 1653933)
This coming election, I'm voting for Putin. LOL!
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I think his point with the Russian history lesson was to inform the Americans (who have forgotten our own short history of throwing off a tyrannical ruling class) that a name on a map does not mean that a country has always been there. The European and Middle Eastern maps have changed many times, due to wars. But people groups often retain their roots and loyalties, even when a victor reassigns their land in a peace accord. I had a young woman from Ukraine in my ESL class. I always thought it odd that she seemed favorable toward Russia. But I now realize she lived near the border and felt like she was Russian.
The fact that Putin has no respect for an actor/dancer who was installed as president of Ukraine is no surprise. (I will never be able to unsee him dancing in black leather and heels)
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
DVC 2/9/2024 10:31:07 AM (No. 1654116)
Rewriting history, a favorite Russian pasttime. Putin lies more convincingly that Joe, but just as often.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
DVC 2/9/2024 2:03:24 PM (No. 1654269)
Re #9, you anger is blinding you to the truth. It takes YEARS of see subtle things, hearing what they say when they are a bit tipsy and speaking their unguarded REAL mind.
If anyone has an open mind, here's the super short version.
Russia was a serfs and royals country up until 1918. They had a thin veneer of intelligensia, doctors, lawyers, a few writers of note, but that thin, thin layer of barons, dukes, etc. and their hangers on, and the tsar had essentially nothing below it but peasants. When Peter the Great want to build the beautiful, magnificent St. Isaacs cathedral in St. Petesburg.....he IMPORTED all the architects, engineers, builders, stone masons, guilders, painters, mosaic workers from France, England and Italy. Russia had no indigenous middle class, no guild members of the crafts and arts. They were very little different culturally from France, England or Italy or Spain in 1300 or so. In the rest of Europe, the kings slowly gave up their powers and a middle class with the craft guilds, the artisans and free men existed on a very large scale.
People developed the mental attitudes over many generations, of FREE men and women. This happened to a far, far smaller degree in Russia where serfs were still attached to the land, almost slaves up to the last tsar.
Then.....the Bolsheviks took over from the tsar, and they stayed serfs, with a slightly thicker layer of educated people, more scientists and engineers, working under the control of the Communist Party, but never actually FREE, either.
If you spend time with a lot of Russians -- you'll eventually find that they LIKE being told what to do, to have their place in society decided by others and by their birth and name.
Why is the father's first name take as the middle name of all men? So that when you know a man's full name you know exactly WHO his father was, which lets you treat him "properly"....based on what amount of power his father wielded or wields. "Do you know who I am?" is a punchline here, over in Russia, it makes peoples' blood run cold, fearing they have not been subservient enough to "someone important"...some lord or lady of these times.
Russia and Russians are different. They are basically a medieval society with a thin paint job of modernity over the top.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
LadyHen 2/9/2024 2:41:50 PM (No. 1654292)
#13... my anger? And what sorcery do you practice to "know" I am angry? I am not, simply tired of your endless and repeated need to silence and denigrate anyone who disagrees with you on this topic and all topics concerning Russia. And it certainly looks like I am not alone.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
JimBob 2/10/2024 10:52:41 PM (No. 1655134)
#13, thank you for your informative post, based on your observations of the Russians you worked among for 10 years, per your post #8.
I have never been outside the USA, much less all the way to Russia, so I -like many of us- have never spent much -or any- time among Russians.
What was Churchill's description of Russia?
Ah yes..... "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma,"
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Putin talked a lot about history, making the point which the Guardian has underlined, that the western press know zero. Putin said there was an opening to peace a year and a half ago and it was Boris Johnson who talked Ukraine out of it. there is hope, let's keep praying.