Why wind and solar power are running out
of juice
New York Post,
by
Jonathan Lesser
Original Article
Posted By: AltaD,
9/3/2023 9:27:58 AM
Green energy and the push to electrify everything have been in the news recently but for all the wrong reasons.
Instead of the green energy nirvana politicians and green energy advocates have promised, economic and physical reality has begun to set in.
Start with the economic realities.
Wind turbine manufacturers like Siemens and General Electric have reported huge losses for the first half of this year, almost $5 billion for the former and $1 billion for the latter.
Among other problems, turbine quality control has suffered, forcing manufacturers such as Siemens and Vestas to incur costly warranty repairs.
In Europe, offshore wind output has been less than promised
Reply 1 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 9/3/2023 9:32:00 AM (No. 1548535)
Voodoo energy can never meet the needs of the baseload.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 9/3/2023 9:32:57 AM (No. 1548538)
Invest in green energy has become the modern day "buy tulips". Surprised? Shouldn't be. The article doesn't address the costly affect on the earth to mine the components that are required for green energy, let allow the inability to recycle the green energy end products - windmill blades, etc. What you say Joey Baby? Newsome? Deep Staters? Deep State Press?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 9/3/2023 10:10:22 AM (No. 1548577)
When has human energy consumption ever declined? We have always used more, not less. We are replacing fossil fuels with wind and solar and they do not produce as much energy. That won't work!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
czechlist 9/3/2023 10:42:26 AM (No. 1548594)
"renewable" energy was promised to be cheap. On a very good day, we Texans may get 30% of our energy from renewables but my electric bill has not gone down. During our recent 100°+ streak wind power was down to 5% and solar goes to 0 after sunset.We avoided power loss thanks to coal, natural gas and nuclear backup. Back in Feb'21 the wind generators froze and solar was affectef by winter clouds and ice and snow covered panels resulting in days without power and deaths. gimme "lots of coal makin' lots of heat (electricity) wouldn't it be lovely!" We're told to follow the science but I followed the money and I found the science
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 9/3/2023 10:46:40 AM (No. 1548595)
And you had better not ever get in a wreck with your $70,000 ecar and damage those lithium batteries. Your insurance won't cover the full $27,000 replacement cost.
As for California, I see that gruesome Newsome has agreed to extend the operating life of the Diablo Canyon nuclear generation station. Why? Because the renewable companies are going broke and renewable energy industry or what is left of it has failed to meet Newsome's grandiose expectations.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
snakeoil 9/3/2023 10:50:47 AM (No. 1548598)
Companies may be losing money. But, politicians aren't. The green in the Green New Deal is the money going into the pockets of politicians.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DVC 9/3/2023 11:00:02 AM (No. 1548605)
They'll just say, well, OK, then you'll have to live on 10% of the power you used to use, at 50 times the cost you used to pay.
Remember, the Hunger Games movie is what they see as the ideal future.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
bpl40 9/3/2023 11:00:49 AM (No. 1548606)
FTA. New York’s efforts will have no environmental value. it's not just new York's. ALL these efforts have negligible environmental value. You know why? Because it is not the intention. The primary purpose of this seeming insanity is disruption leading to control. During the Culture Revolution, the Maoist government exhorted people to make TWENTY YEARS of progress in a single day. Were they seeking economic development and betterment or total control? Just ask yourselves.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
southernboy 9/3/2023 11:01:29 AM (No. 1548608)
And...just in from NW Florida, owners of EV's are being warned not to park their electric cars in their garages or next to the house. Seems with all the salt spray and such stirred up by the latest hurricane EV's sometimes burst into unquenchable fireballs. Insurance companies are taking notice!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 9/3/2023 11:12:53 AM (No. 1548628)
I can assure you, as I've been in meetings and on zoom calls with officials who are pushing the zero emissions mantra, and they don't care how much or what it will require to achieve this goal.
After all, it's just taxpayer dollars, right?
Near-zero emissions goal is more achievable, and the last remainder to zero emissions is the largest costs for attainment.
Plus, they don't have the infrastructure in place which will cost BILLIONS that aren't allocated but will be by force (regulations) if necessary.
None of it matters since China, India and others aren't following the same course change.
Why aren't they, if it's a global issue that will impact everyone?
Or, are they not buying the same "science" being presented, and know something we aren't being told?
13 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
felixcat 9/3/2023 12:11:59 PM (No. 1548675)
Virginia has also signed onto the California mandates - thank you ex Governor Blackface Northam. And of course, no mention in the article of the vast environmental damage to marine life, birds, bats, etc.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
mc squared 9/3/2023 12:19:50 PM (No. 1548679)
Last month 2800 cars, 500 of them EVs, burnt to a crisp on a cargo ship. The electric craze is a medieval style bunko scam.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 9/3/2023 12:20:15 PM (No. 1548680)
I don't have time to read this article.
I'm hanging out my window - - and flapping my arms - - so that my wind turbine will start spinning.
Whew! I'm really exhausted.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
paral04 9/3/2023 1:25:06 PM (No. 1548715)
Aside from everything mentioned in the article, there is the devastating loss of birds and whales lives from being affected by the wind turbines. These so called "Greenies" don't care about that with their "virtuous" environmental lunacy.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
chance_232 9/3/2023 1:59:38 PM (No. 1548731)
I'm preparing my supply of popcorn for the 2035 prohibition on sales on new internal combustion engines.
The new prohibition will cripple the delivery and service industries. I can easily drive 300 miles a day in an industry where time is money. Pulling over a hour or moreevery day to charge up is going to be an expensive problem. Plus the cost of battery replacement. And then there are those people living in apartment buildings that don't have chargers. The lack of electrical generation or a grid to support it will be highly amusing to residents of states not sadled with moronic laws and regulations.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 9/3/2023 2:05:37 PM (No. 1548738)
The last six or eight days here in eastern Kansas...you know where it's "Always windy"....have been dead calm, all day. I'm sure not a blade moved for at least a week.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
marbles 9/3/2023 2:44:26 PM (No. 1548755)
All this was never meant to work, to supply the energy needs of this or any nation. It's about lowering your standard living to enslavement. It's about making easy money for friends of friends.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 9/3/2023 3:18:18 PM (No. 1548769)
Ask Job. Wind and solar were for a different time. Green weenies need to find another cause and other trees to hug.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
NeonVortex 9/3/2023 8:00:32 PM (No. 1548850)
Gee, who could have predicted that?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 9/3/2023 8:02:48 PM (No. 1548852)
"energy transition without wind energy does not work"
And THIS is the stake in the heart of the renewable energy vampires. Wind and solar energy to replace fossil fuel DOES NOT WORK. Further, It CAN NOT WORK. We have been sold a dream with made up information to let the camel get its nose in the tent. Now, bit by bit, we are seeing the lies exposed. Higher costs, lower reliability, less power than promised, etc. It's all garbage and it is heading for a massive collapse of our energy infrastructure. The government will then declare an emergency and tell citizens they cannot travel, use air conditioning, have Christmas lights, get needed energy hungry medical tests, and they will duck the blame for all these energy austerity measures that were due to government's incompetence and lust for power.
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Wait until the greenie cult finds out their precious wind farms need gallons of lubricant to run that can only come from their arch enemy called fossil fuel byproducts.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Strike3 9/3/2023 9:43:33 PM (No. 1548887)
If these people had done the math in the beginning they never would have forced this fantasy as the new way of life but then pipe dreams never consider the practical side of things. We all knew the failure was only a matter of time.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
MickTurn 9/3/2023 9:54:17 PM (No. 1548893)
Sorry guys, Flatulence and Sunburns don't cut it!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
kono 9/3/2023 10:02:24 PM (No. 1548897)
What the energy idealists are doing to us is the societal analogue of self-strangulation, and societal suicide is hard to watch.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
walcb 9/3/2023 11:13:58 PM (No. 1548911)
We are surrounded by science idiots.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
RWPollock 9/4/2023 5:44:02 AM (No. 1548969)
Typical liberal. They “feel” these are solutions but never really look a facts before acting. Typical liberal plans that fail because they always put the cart before the horse. Such decisions are devoid of common sense. Nuclear power is the step in right direction and continue fission research. Allow those companies than can recycle nuclear waste for energy use such technology. According to experts there has been the ability to use nuclear waste for energy that it could power the whole country for 100-150 years at the current demand rate. Solar power is not a solution either are electric cars. Electric car push is just another cart before the horse bandade approach.
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