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American Self-Government is Falling Apart

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Posted By: jimincalif, 8/22/2023 9:40:15 PM

The American system does not require unanimity. In fact, its design presumes deep disagreement on matters of morality and policy. This is why questions like religion are left to individual conscience, and why most policy is left to states or even smaller units, where the law’s touch will not be felt as harshly, because it reflects the more similar values of a smaller group. Finally, regardless of who has the reins of the federal government, the Constitution renders a great deal of substantive activity off limits, as exemplified by the Bill of Rights.

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I don’t see his suggested tactics as realistic, uniparty GOP will never do it. But he concludes “things are coming apart”, perhaps in a matter of months.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Corndoggies 8/22/2023 9:53:33 PM (No. 1540418)
We have way too many people employed by Uncle Sam. Just this past week a bunch of low level staffers met in Indianapolis to “figure out” how to make voting easier. It certainly wasn’t to make it more secure. What a waste of money. We could get rid of probably 90% of state and local government and be better off. All they do is make more laws cause they have to earn they’re keep so to speak. So yeah things are falling apart because the average citizen/slave has looked behind the curtain and we don’t like what we’ve seen.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: davew 8/22/2023 9:57:51 PM (No. 1540419)
2016 was tragedy. 2020 was farce. What comes after farce? The American Experiment failed.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Lake Dweller 8/22/2023 10:03:01 PM (No. 1540421)
I understand why Soros and his ilk are doing this, but why are suburban women going along with it? I guess they worship abortion. Or do they worship Satan?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: MFM 8/22/2023 10:03:23 PM (No. 1540422)
I feel hard COVID lockdowns coming later this fall with no elections in 2024...I pray that I am wrong as the Country will not survive in its current form.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 8/22/2023 10:43:34 PM (No. 1540428)
Very interesting essay by Chris Roach. But, agree, I don't think his remedy is realistic. It is hard to decide if America's future will follow the political upheaval seen in Russia, Chile, or France. FTA - " We are nearing the point of no return. No matter what political tactics make sense, all of us should be as prepared as possible for disorder, persecution, and chaos in the months ahead. Things are coming apart." This is the reality. Consider Roach's words. Read the writings in the literature that describe the eight stages of the rise and fall of great civilizations. The United States of America is in the eighth and final stage. Our lady, the Statue of Liberty, weeps for us. Our founding fathers must be rolling in their graves. Has God, our Heavenly Father abandoned us. To put it another way, have we abandoned God, our Heavenly Father.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: rememberwhen 8/22/2023 10:54:35 PM (No. 1540433)
Boycotting the election would be asinine. IMM, only a closet RINO would suggest it. That would hand the White House to the Dims without their even having to stuff the ballot box. And we'd likely never have another meaningful election.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 8/23/2023 1:40:56 AM (No. 1540450)
4 more years of Commie rule and we are over! You are on your own now!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Timber Queen 8/23/2023 2:29:47 AM (No. 1540456)
The author's suggestion of boycotting the election is only if President Trump is found guilty of one of their nebulous crimes and put in jail. Under those circumstances, I would certainly boycott the election. As Mr. Roach points out; it will be very bad world PR for the United States to have half its citizens not vote and the "winning" tally be 99% for Biden/Harris/Newsome (pick the mannequin of your choice). However, his idea of Republican led legislatures abandoning the presidential vote in their states is pipe dream - a Mendocino County pipe dream, if y'know what I'm sayin'. There is no denying our nation, our Constitutional Republic, is in dire peril. President Trump is a great man, and is making great personal sacrifices to fight for the survival of our country. Our duty is to support him with our prayers and our voices; to stand beside him as long as he stands; and should he falter, to pick up the banner. Destiny calls us. Our forefathers and mothers call us. In God We Trust. MAGA REVENGE - TRUMP 2024
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rinktum 8/23/2023 3:49:31 AM (No. 1540470)
It is not conservatives who have moved from the ethos that has made this country exceptional. It is the godless left that rejects the very foundation of the Republic. As it stands today, there is no discussion to be had with the people who would steal what they could not win with a working philosophy that it is their way or the highway. They have illegitimately installed themselves in power and will not relinquish it. It will have to be wrenched from their hands. We all want to go back to the way it was, but that is no longer an option. When you have a government hostile to its citizens and one that acts lawlessly, complete defeat is the only option because nothing short of this will deter them. They will not stop their corruption and election theft and when you come to such an impasse, there are few options left. The question remains, will the American people allow this lawlessness to go on and surrender to the country to them? We cannot look to the corrupt political class to articulate a way forward because they are mired in the corruption that swallows everyone in Washington DC. The few who understand our plight and are willing to confront the lawlessness are not enough. It does not look good for the Republic unless by an act of divine intervention this evil can be defeated.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Strike3 8/23/2023 5:24:15 AM (No. 1540496)
The principles are intact. Our problem is that evil has permeated the topmost layers and they have become a ruling class, aka dictatorship, instead of a government.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: franq 8/23/2023 6:01:45 AM (No. 1540505)
We need God, through his Son Jesus in our lives. The Bible makes it clear that "kings" will not save us. Only when we are led by God can we know a peace (I admit, hard to find sometimes) that passes understanding. I find myself skimming headlines now, not reading the details, since the time spent doing it profits little. Look to God and his Word.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Are You Serious 8/23/2023 7:31:13 AM (No. 1540554)
The GOP cannot be counted on.....it will take the mobilization of millions of citizens marching on DC with the intent of removing the current govt BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY to effect any real change.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: FJB 8/23/2023 9:10:56 AM (No. 1540631)
Our son says Newsmax is too pro-Ukraine War.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: hershey 8/23/2023 9:50:54 AM (No. 1540664)
Poster #5 has hit it right on the head...this country has fallen into apostasy and 9/11 was our wakeup call. God has pulled his protection from us and we are being pulled down. This experiment in government was founded on Gods principals and we have fallen short..I would suggest your read 'The Harbinger' by Jonathan Cahn...he is a 'today' prophet and tells what is happening. How can God bless a country whose leaders lie, cheat and steal, and commit immoral acts, and a country whose government pays people to murder babies in the name of 'reproductive health'?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 8/23/2023 10:20:23 AM (No. 1540687)
My guess is we are heading towards a corrupt tyrannical oligarchic dictatorship. We are halfway there already. Hopefully our 'leaders' will be loyal to the country, but don't bet on it. They can be bought. There is a large 'For Sale' sign on the DC border. Elections will be fake if they are held at all. The two party system is just for show. They control who gets nominated. They are looking for a fight. They enjoy too much support to be overthrown easily if at all.
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