10 Facts Electric Vehicle Advocates Don't
Want You to Know
PJ Media,
by
Mark Tapscott
Original Article
Posted By: ladydawgfan,
8/30/2022 11:49:26 PM
There are a host of reasons why the Left is absolutely determined to force Americans out of their privately owned, gasoline-powered cars and trucks and into unreliable public transportation and costly Electric Vehicles (EVs), none of which have to do with “saving the environment.”
The central reason the Left loves EVs is that the process of forcing Americans to convert to electric-powered transportation will destroy forever the incredible freedom and prosperity associated with privately owned gas-powered vehicles. The future will instead be centrally controlled by rich elitists and their corrupt politicians, power-hungry bureaucrats, and ideologically driven “experts.”
When Ransom Olds in 1901 and Henry Ford in 1908 sold America’s first mass-produced automobiles
Reply 1 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 8/31/2022 12:09:49 AM (No. 1263886)
It’s impossible unsustainable unrealistic and doomed to fail in a grand extremely expensive experiment in socialism tyranny and man made climate change insanity. Failure is inevitable. But a new gas Toyota and enjoy it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
chumley 8/31/2022 12:30:51 AM (No. 1263891)
Here's a reason thats good enough for me. I dont want one. I dont like or trust the people pushing them.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 8/31/2022 12:35:33 AM (No. 1263893)
One fact for the EV pushers.....I'll never have one.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 8/31/2022 1:43:00 AM (No. 1263910)
Two more "fun facts".....If you have an EV with "200 mile range", you can't actually go out 100 miles and come back home, because say you drive out and then on the way back are driving into a stiff headwind....ooops, can't reach home. So, you have to keep a certain reserve of charge, kinda like a reserve of gas, nobody plans on arriving at their destination with a pint of fuel in the car. So, your "200 mile range" is really more like a 160 mile range if you allow for a 15% safety margin.
And....if you DO manage to run the battery flat, you can't hitchhike to a charging station and get a "gallon of electrons" to dump into your tank to send you on your way. You will have to be picked up by a tow truck, likely a flatbed type these days, and taken home to recharge, overnight.
Fun stuff, these useless toy cars, no?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
SweetPea3 8/31/2022 1:59:46 AM (No. 1263921)
You can keep your 'Ronson" EVs.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
franq 8/31/2022 5:52:34 AM (No. 1263953)
Excellent point, #4, and who wants to sit at a charger for untold periods of time, waiting for the person ahead of them to finish? This pipe dream has the potential to be worse than Obamacare.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Red Jeep 8/31/2022 6:45:47 AM (No. 1263972)
"EVs are powered by fossil fuels." Tell that to all your EV loving Liberal friends. "How do you like your coal powered EV, Fred?
Imagine thousands in Florida trying to escape an oncoming hurricane in their EV's.....
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Rinktum 8/31/2022 7:29:24 AM (No. 1264008)
The reason behind EV’s is to keep us in our place literally. The days of hitting the open road will be a thing of the past. We will be confined to a short range of travel and thinking about adventuring out will be a nightmare. Let the big cities use EV’s and leave the rest of us alone. Everyone who lives out will be terribly inconvenienced. That is the point however because they want to force us into cities because they can more easily control us if they can confine us. The next strategy by the left will be the closing of gas stations. Just wait for it, the government wants to force us into EV’s and they will make it as hard as possible to drive gasoline powered vehicles. Gas stations will be forced out of business as will companies that produce car parts along with those who repair the internal combustion engine. I cannot believe that the government is going to these lengths to impose their will on the American people but that is what totalitarians do. All this will do is destroy the country further.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 8/31/2022 7:34:07 AM (No. 1264013)
When the grid is down, EV power stations that do not have battery backup will be useless. EV owners in Florida are going to be disappointed with the EVs when hurricanes take the grid down.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DiegoDude 8/31/2022 7:47:31 AM (No. 1264032)
Let's talk about range and God forbid if you need to use heat or ac in your EV. Guess what happens to your battery then. Traffic jams, oh wait, there won't be any because the average person won't be able to afford an ev, let alone charge it.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Strike3 8/31/2022 8:13:51 AM (No. 1264062)
#1 and #2 nail it. The only question left is, when will the airheads who are pushing this fantasy going to realize that it's not going to happen?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
snakeoil 8/31/2022 8:18:13 AM (No. 1264068)
Where I live, a suburb of Atlanta, I have to park my car each night in my garage. If I didn't in the morning I wouldn't have a car. But if you park your EV in your garage you run the risk of a fire which could destroy your EV, garage, house, and your life. The whole thing is just ridiculous. There is enough fossil fuels under ground in North America to provide all of our energy needs for thousands of years. But idiot demoncraps just love to tell people to do something they don't want to do and that it is for the benefit of everyone, even the planet. I am a proud member of the Leave Me the Hades Alone movement.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 8/31/2022 8:32:00 AM (No. 1264075)
All this 'save the planet' green agenda will end if Donald Trump gets elected. This is all child's play. Battery operated vehicles belong on a golf course not on the interstate. There is another nightmare that awaits the EV owner, disposal cost of the toxic dead batteries and cost of replacement. I'll stay with my gasoline powered cars.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
bpl40 8/31/2022 8:42:13 AM (No. 1264091)
There is an 11th reason not mentioned here. A Florida family bought their 16 year old her first car (very normal and natural) - a used EV for $11,000. Six months later the car needed a new battery - costing $17,000! The only advice to EV buyers - Fiat justitia ruat caelum ! Let the buyer beware!!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 8/31/2022 8:46:09 AM (No. 1264096)
As for Item 2 in Tapscott's piece, my former employer, Freeport McMoRan, owned the cobalt mining operations in the DRC. But the company sold all of its DRC operations to, guess who? The Peoples' Republic of China. How does that make you feel.
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One other fact they do not want you to know: current supply of some of the rare earth metals needed to manufacture EVs is insufficient to manufacture as many EVs as the current number of ICE vehicles manufactured.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
greyseal 8/31/2022 9:16:04 AM (No. 1264123)
Poster #8 comes closest to the real goal, one supported by the WEF and globalists everywhere: EVs are not for you. The transition will not replace your ICE, but you'll simply not be able to own a personal conveyance apart from a bicycle. It's meant to drive everyone to public transportation (buses, trains, planes, etc.) for anything other than local travel. EVs with their limited range (even more so in colder climes) are just gussied-up golf carts. The infrastructure can't support EVs, renewable energy production can't fuel them, rare earth minerals aren't sufficient for the necessary batteries, and there are no currently viable alternative fuels being pursued. The recent fusion "breakthrough" is a bust (like their predecessors, the scientists can't recreate their "first" ignition) and it appears that Toyota is the only automaker seriously looking at hydrogen fuel cell tech.
COVID lockdowns were a proving ground for your future - stay home and don't wander, lest the authorities arrive to lock you up...
greyseal
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
BaldGuy 8/31/2022 9:18:51 AM (No. 1264125)
read an interesting fact the other day...each car that stops at your local gas station stays approx 5 minutes....what happens when each car has to stay 30-60 minutes? How large does the "gas station" have to be then??? what about waiting in line then your car dies??
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
BaldGuy 8/31/2022 9:21:56 AM (No. 1264127)
there's a hurricane in south Florida, and everyone has to leave NOW...both sides of the interstate are packed with cars heading north...EV's all start dying....then what??
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
gusman 8/31/2022 9:22:52 AM (No. 1264133)
EV cars weight about 1500 lbs more than a same sized gas car, which means more wear and tear on roads, also major upgrades to bridges and over passes to support the added weight.
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#11 The landfills are already burdened with broken wind turbine blades and now adding all the spent batteries will make California a toxic waste dump.
#12 Electric cars can be hacked and crashed by nefarious three letter organizations.
#13 Electric car use is limited to the power allowed by your government, so they can cause a lockdown any time they choose.
#14 Anything that our government is pushing on us is always to their benefit and not ours....either financially or in terms of control.
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Please remember that “fossil fuels” was coined by the Rockefellers (you know, Standard Oil) to imply scarcity. AlGore said it best when he said “Da Earf’s core is extweemly hot several miwwion degwees..” it manufactures fuel. Don’t let them screw with our Earth Fuel! It was created by God to warm us.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
little guy 8/31/2022 10:01:08 AM (No. 1264183)
An interesting article put he left out some very serious points:
1) Electric cars have been known to literally burst into flames. A parked gas car doesn't do that.
2) There is little in the way of strength to the car as that makes it too heavy to move. Search the internet for pictures of head-on crashes by EVs. Extra body strength to the passenger compartment adds safety & also adds lots of weight, cutting the range. Get T-boned by an F-250 or a Toyota 2500 and you're not walking away. Never mind an ambulance ... you'll need the coroner.
3) The battery wears out faster the more you use the car. Putt-putting around town a few days a week is not the same as a 50 mile commute to work everyday. You might get 4 years from the former behavior but maybe only 2 years from the latter. Right now, placement batteries run $18k to $26k depending on where you get it and the size.
4) As of now there are less than 10% hook-ups versus car numbers outside your house for a public charge. Everyone charging at once will be a nightmare of waiting and you could run out of power before your turn! Imagine pushing your car the last 500 feet to the plug.
5) Creating the car causes more world wide pollution than a gas guzzler driving for years.
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One more point. Road construction and maintenance is paid for by gasoline taxes - state and federal. Electric vehicles do not pay these taxes (yet) even though they weigh significantly more than gas cars of the same class. And, therefore, do greater damage to our roads and highways. And once again we get to subsidize pet projects of the liberals - all while they are claiming EV's are cheaper to fuel than our gas vehicles. When all the real costs are analyzed, I think we will find EV's are very expensive to own and operate and the burden of subsidizing them will fall on the working class disproportionately.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
MDConservative 8/31/2022 10:51:01 AM (No. 1264241)
Any and all of these shortcomings will become more and more apparent as more EVs take the road. That California and Washington are allowed to ban other autos is very disturbing and ought to be concerning. Following in that Chrysler announces the end of gas powered auto production to pursue EVs. The fact is that the auto manufacturers and energy (no longer oil) companies are going all-in.
And where are the gas station owners and their organizations? I do not recall much from them defending their business. Parts manufacturers, distributors and retail parts stores...quiet as church mice.
I'm all for the free market of ideas and products. We are entering a state command economy with hardly a whimper.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Zigrid 8/31/2022 11:19:36 AM (No. 1264295)
The push for electric cars reminds me of the commercials on tv...the ones that are pushed to hard...are always the ones you stay away from...it's like the movies...if the establishment is pushing it...it's not a good move for Americans...besides the grid can't handle it.....they really are stupid....
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
cold porridge 8/31/2022 11:20:08 AM (No. 1264296)
Don't forget the fact that the Bidens and Pelosis (so most likely Newsom) are heavily invested in the chinese lithium mines. This is another scam for them to get even richer and to control us even more.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Talk2 8/31/2022 11:20:15 AM (No. 1264297)
Make a list of pros and cons for EVs and then make your decision as whether to buy or not. If one is honest in making the list no buy will always be the answer. If you want to save the environment don't, do not not ever buy an EV because all you will be doing is lighting the fuse to destroy the environment of our grandchildren and great-grandchildren. As for China's involvement in this I refer you to pre-WWII Japan's statement, to paraphrase, - Americans will sell us the steel we will use to destroy them. Do you think China's not using the same strategy?
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
NamVet70 8/31/2022 11:24:26 AM (No. 1264311)
He failed to mention a few more points:
1. The battery in an EV can only undergo a certain number of recharge cycles before its useful capacity is used up. At that point a replacement battery is more cost than the used vehicle cost of the automobile, so the vehicle is then scrap. This means the used car market for the EV is negligible. Everyone who buys a second hand EV can expect at best perhaps three years out of the vehicle and even that is with a very much shortened driving range.
2. The lithium batter in an EV is a serious fire hazard and when it does ignite it may continue to reignite even if the fire department responder somehow extinguish the fire. If the EV was parked in a garage or driving through a tunnel this could be a very disastrous accident.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
gmholler 8/31/2022 11:26:03 AM (No. 1264314)
#25 makes a good point. Why hasn't there been a louder outcry from gas stations, dealerships, auto repair shops, and the like?
Lynn.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
red1066 8/31/2022 12:56:34 PM (No. 1264447)
Also #4 add in the nature of batteries in general. Batteries in general won't hold a charge as long when they get older which means that 300-mile battery may only go 200 miles or less after a few years of use. At which time, you'll have the privilege of shelling out 10 to 20 grand to replace the batteries in your car.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 8/31/2022 1:33:43 PM (No. 1264484)
11. There will be no charging performed during "Rolling Brownouts."
12. They quit (short out) when driven into a flooded street.
13. Lithium-Ion batteries don't last forever, with replacements being cost prohibitive, once out of warranty.
14. Lithium-Ion batteries are "self-immolating," when you least expect it.
15. Even large city Fire Departments are ill-equipped to handle Lithium-Ion battery fires.
16. Lithium-Ion battery disposal is a hazardous waste problem.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
moonlightflip 8/31/2022 5:48:37 PM (No. 1264686)
Will 18-wheelers/trucks/tractors, etc. also be required to use these batteries?? Will the Amish be "allowed" to use horses??
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
rikkitikki 8/31/2022 7:34:12 PM (No. 1264784)
Problem #52: Most gasoline filling stations require only enough real estate to accommodate each customer for the 5 to 10 minutes it takes to fill their tanks.
What will be the cost in infrastructure to acquire enough acreage to accommodate each customer for the 8 to 10 hrs for one complete charge, and the cost for each of those charging stations themselves?
Consequently, a typical "gas station" will no longer be commercially viable on a 1/2 acre lot: each one will require a parking lot the size of a football field, plus the hardware needed for each charging station...and that's only for the ones located near downtown areas, the only areas in which enough customers could leave their cars for 8 hrs to charge.
The whole concept was still-born.
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These "advocates" apparently believe that electricity comes out of the wall.
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Given the state of the power grids in this nation, and the refusal of democrats to build more power plants, I would not touch one of those things if you paid me to drive it. This is such a massive joke on the world, and people who own these things just cannot see that.
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My great grandfather had an EV back when steam, electric, and internal combustion vehicles were competing. IC won out for a reason. Old Otto turned the car over in a ditch, had it hauled back to the barn and put on blocks, hooked up old Maude to the buggy and drove that until he died in 1927. EV vehicles are not a new technology. They have been around for well over 100 years. They failed then and will probably fail again without government subsidies and mandates, but the left will waste trillions on them because they love to force people to do stupid things.
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I'm keeping my Toyota regardless. I definitely WON'T be driving one of those EV death traps!!!