DOGE Confirms That Social Security Is
a Fine Mess
American Spectator,
by
Deroy Murdock
Original Article
Posted By: ConservativeYankee,
3/6/2025 2:07:55 PM
Social Security is as big as government programs get. Naturally, even a glance at it with DOGE’s magnifying glass found plenty that seemed — charitably — not quite right.
“According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE,” Department of Government Efficiency chief Elon Musk stated via X on February 16. “Maybe Twilight is real, and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security.”
“Yes, there are far more ‘eligible’ Social Security numbers than there are citizens in the USA. This might be the biggest fraud in history.” Indeed, the Social Security numbers that Musk found,
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singermom9 3/6/2025 2:22:50 PM (No. 1909792)
Tell me again how we can't fire ANY employees because they are so valuable and do such a GREAT job. S/O
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Older Lady 3/6/2025 2:30:21 PM (No. 1909796)
I wonder how many of these people are still on state voter rolls too since so many states/localities refuse to clean up their voter rolls and remove people who are dead or no longer a resident eligible to vote in that locality. Call me suspicious but I doubt people back in the 1600's and 1700's had Social Security numbers but I really don't know when the first numbers were assigned. To be sure, those people are long dead.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 3/6/2025 3:16:54 PM (No. 1909836)
FTA:
“The fact that we are even discussing whether 1.3 million Americans over the age of 150 are receiving Social Security shows how antiquated the federal government’s IT systems are and how they need a dire update,” U.S. Senator Marsha Blackburn (R – Tennessee) told me.
How about assigning 100 people to closely investigating every single person on the SS list over the age of 120? Maybe start by sending a "last check" notice, with a number to call to arrange an IN PERSON interview, if any checks are being sent, and see if some 67 year old shows up with proof of being alive and being the person who has the SS number?
This database combing should be a STANDARD and ongoing process. There should be a Division of Data Anomalies charged with fixing any 'wrong things' in the SS database. Another example is 30 illegal aliens paying SS into the same number. Send the info to ICE and go pick up the illegals from this info.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
oldmagnolia 3/6/2025 3:40:25 PM (No. 1909855)
My two cents here: they should match the date of birth with the bank account the checks go to.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
planetgeo 3/6/2025 4:15:40 PM (No. 1909874)
I've been in the IT field for almost my entire adulthood. These data anomalies in the SSA database are ridiculous by any standard. Whether or not any checks are being sent to these accounts, the fact that they have remained unaudited in the SSA database until now is unacceptable and offers massive opportunities for fraud, including not just for payments but also for possible voting fraud, loan fraud, and others.
It should not be very difficult to develop automated processes to crosscheck these SSA numbers against payment registers and other databases. Go, DOGE, Go!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
3XALADY 3/6/2025 4:59:28 PM (No. 1909895)
It is hard to believe Social Security isn't aware of a death because I have heard of them making someone in the family return a last check when someone dies according to the date of death.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Encore 3/6/2025 5:29:11 PM (No. 1909910)
Obviously, the boneheads running these systems are the same that couldn’t think of ‘five’ things they accomplished last week.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
JimBob 3/6/2025 5:53:44 PM (No. 1909932)
It sounds to me like we're not getting the full story.
-Are there checks being sent to these over-100-year-old names, or are they just inactive names?
-Why aren't the rolls being reviewed and cleaned as an ongoing process?
-I would wager that these 'umpteen-year-old' names on the rolls are good for headlines, but I would wager that the BULK of the CHEATING is far more mundane.
I agree completely with #2, #3, #4, and #5.
..... and while they're at it, CLEAN UP THE VOTER ROLLS! I know they're different systems, but it seems to me that there's a lot of 'crossover' application!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 3/6/2025 6:55:08 PM (No. 1909973)
Can you imagine a business (especially a financial business like a bank or investment company) or individual having the same disdain the federal government shows for record keeping. When it came to filing our taxes and the government wanted to know what we had received from Charles Schwab last year and we said, "whatever", what do you think would happen. And then Schwab said, "Well, we have half the records, sort of.".
Our government is a disgrace.
AND if this were fixed, we would need FAR less people, and could do audits with a push of a key. Plus, we would have highly reliable, redundant backups of all information. Storing paper record in a mine is insanely out of date and prone to all sorts of problems.
Of course, one wonders if this is all deliberate? Sloppy records make it far easier to hide fraud. Hmmmm? Who do we know who might want to hide fraud???
One targeted effort that should come from all this review is a dedicated effort to update all federal recordkeeping to modern methods. Then, once everything is cross checked and verified, a law should passed that the current modern records will be the official record going forward. Old records might be retained in some form for historical interest but LEGALLY, the modern record would be the official version. The law should acknowledge that some errors may perpetrate into the updated record but they will have to be handled on a case by case basis and litigants will have to provide any documentation to prove their case, i.e. the government does NOT need to maintain old records or access to them in perpetuity.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
4Liberty2020 3/6/2025 7:06:52 PM (No. 1909988)
Genesis 6:3 says that man's life span would be 120 years.
SS needs to get there act together.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
hershey 3/6/2025 9:07:29 PM (No. 1910088)
I'm sure there are more people on SS than should be...I can remember when I was leaving the SS office after signing up many years ago, a spanish looking type was making way to the door waving a passport...and all the > 100 year olds getting checks???? Wonder how many have addresses in cemetaries....
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
MickTurn 3/6/2025 10:38:22 PM (No. 1910125)
Congress has totally Abused the Social Security MONEY. Giving it to people, ILLEGALS, that never put in a penny is a total FRAUD! The simple fact that dead people are getting benefits tells us it is out of control, and everyone involved should be put in PRISON!
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