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Kristi Noem did the right thing

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Posted By: DVC, 4/30/2024 2:33:33 PM

Many decades ago my four year old daughter was invited to play at a neighbor's house with another little girl while visiting her grandparents in an upper middle class neighborhood. While there, she was attacked and knocked down by the neighbor's Doberman that went for her throat while she on the ground. Thankfully the bite occurred under her arm pit as she instinctively raised her arm to protect herself. The dog clamped down and shook her like a rag doll. Fortunately the owner's teenage son was there and got the dog off my daughter.

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Sometimes "the right thing" absolutely stinks, and is miserable to do. A overly aggressive dog is not a joke, and can be like a live grenade. The "find a new home" idea is not a solution, just kicking the grenade down the road.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Namma 4/30/2024 2:57:59 PM (No. 1709122)
A dog shakes its prey. To kill it Also. Norms dog was NOT A PUPPY!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Marzon 4/30/2024 2:58:55 PM (No. 1709123)
Even if it was the right thing to do, publicizing it was monumentally stupid.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 4/30/2024 3:24:44 PM (No. 1709147)
When I was a kid, one of my father's friends had two doberman pinschers. After a few years with the dogs only, they had a baby. And a month later the dogs were gone. i asked my parents why they got rid of their dogs, and we has a beagle, so I couldn't grasp how different a doby is from a beagle when I was about 7 years old. The dogs saw the new baby as an inteloper, and were clearly unhappy that the infant was getting all "their" attention. The dogs had growled at the baby several times, and the parents had to keep the infant's room door locked to ensure that the dogs couldn't get to the child. THAT was the end of that. In this case, they placed the dogs with a guy that had no kids, and warned about what had happened. Not all dogs are "Benji" or "Lassie", by a long shot. As a college student, a fellow grad student bred dobermans for money. I visited his house twice. The bitches were fine, but the big male dog, while he followed orders to "sit and stay" just vibrated with contained energy. I could tell that he was looking at me and thinking "I've been ordered to sit and stay, but I would just LOVE to rip you throat out." Scariest dog I have ever been around.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: HicoKid 4/30/2024 3:38:24 PM (No. 1709162)
This is a stupid conflation between a vicious dog that attacks people and Noam's young dog that wouldn't hunt and killed some chickens. No, Noam did not do the right thing. There's a big difference in shooting a dog in the act of aggression against people or livestock and shooting a dog for behavior that the owner could have prevented. On top of the dog shooting, she bragged about shooting a goat for doing what goats do. She shows her true yahoo-ness by having to get another shell from the truck after only wounding the goat initially. She bragged about it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: HicoKid 4/30/2024 3:57:07 PM (No. 1709181)
People who become backyard breeders of vicious dangerous breeds, for a buck, are the worst.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: buckeye1 4/30/2024 3:59:56 PM (No. 1709185)
Well, it can be debated until the cows come home and both sides will have good points to stand on. She took it in her own hands and made her decision to err on the side of not taking any chances with both the dog and the goat she dispatched in the same manner. It was very stupid of her to include it in the book. Think of what they did to Romney for putting his dog in a crate on top of his car and multiply it by a million. It was really a dumb move on so many levels.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: ironchefw 4/30/2024 4:55:06 PM (No. 1709238)
Obama ate a dog and got to be president twice.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 4/30/2024 5:02:59 PM (No. 1709243)
There are some things you keep to yourself. Shooting dogs would be one of those things. She just ended her political career outside the state level.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Maggie2u 4/30/2024 5:07:31 PM (No. 1709244)
This happened quite a few years ago. My sister in law's parents owned a few acres out in what was pretty much country when housing developments stated to surround their property. They had at the time some chickens. One day a pack of dogs attacked them and killed a few of them. Her brother got a rifle and killed the dogs, they were still on their property. The owners of the dogs went to the police who told them, 'too bad, they had every right to kill any dog that attacks livestock. So keep your dogs on your property and this won't happen.' Her brother didn't want to shoot those dogs but it had to be done.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: LadyHen 4/30/2024 5:36:14 PM (No. 1709268)
I grew up on farms and in the country. When dealing with trouble dogs (and I am not saying this dog was a true trouble dog, maybe just a young and badly trained, conditioned, or even bred dog), there are the 3 S's. Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up. Shooting the young dog was probably stupid to begin with. But then talking about it was outright moronic! Sorry, no one that politically and socially inept will get my vote. Talk about a political liability. That is Kamala level stupid right there.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kate318 4/30/2024 6:22:24 PM (No. 1709289)
Wow. I can’t believe with all that is at stake in our country and in the world, this is a topic worth debating.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: NorthernDog 4/30/2024 6:38:44 PM (No. 1709299)
She makes it sound like she didn't much mind blowing the dog's head off. All in a day's work. It's amazing she didn't think the story would generate massive negative reactions.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 4/30/2024 6:43:33 PM (No. 1709306)
Killing a young dog for chasing chickens, being a bad hunter and nipping someone is not acceptable! I know we justify everything today for politics…I’m not buying this one! She is toast as a future Republican! Sleeping with Corey was bad enough! Good grief!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: thewarden 4/30/2024 6:53:08 PM (No. 1709314)
Our first dog came from the local Humane Society when my son was two. It was my husband’s idea, I didn’t want a dog. Anyway, the dog turned out to be psycho, a male lab mix with a crooked face (damaged?). He was overly attached to me very quickly. One night I was driving my son home from my parents’ house, my son was in his car seat in the middle seats, the dog was in the far back section of our Rodeo—in a safety vest and secured to a tie down. In the 20 minute drive home, the dog, unbeknownst to me, had chewed through the leash and freed himself and tried to get over the seat towards us. I was hysterical by the time I got home because he was going after my little son. I told my husband when we got home that the dog had to go—I just didn’t trust him around my little boy (he was a big dog). My husband sheepishly admitted the dog had bit him (we’d only had him maybe 2 weeks). I made him take the dog back the next morning (and believe me, I felt terrible about that). So, husband goes to turn him in and the guy who opened the gate said “yeah, well I guess he’s going to be put down because he bit you—he’s already been RETURNED here 3 times! WTH! You didn’t think it was pertinent information to share with us before the adoption? I was livid. Anyway, poor doggo but he clearly had issues and was probably better off being humanely euthanized. I still have some guilt over that poor dog 28 years later…but it was the right thing to do. Some dogs are NOT ok. We adopted 3 others (singularly) over the years since, 2 of whom were seniors, and they were great.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: skacmar 4/30/2024 8:08:46 PM (No. 1709380)
Everyone's opinion of the dog story will depend on where you are from and your experience with dogs. Are you from the city with pampered indoor little useless dogs who are equal to people? Yes, you will be disturbed by the story. From the suburbs where your Golden Retriever gazes into your eyes with love as it plays with the kids and is your loyal friend? Sure, the story will bother you. From the country, where dogs might be pets or might just live on the farm because they happen to be there? Maybe it will bug you, maybe not. Live on a ranch where many dogs are as much a tool as a tractor or shovel? You will understand exactly why Noem did what she did. It happened, she did not hide it, the world did not end. For all those condemning it: how would you feel if that dog had attacked your chickens, or your cat, or French Bulldog?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Venturer 4/30/2024 8:15:29 PM (No. 1709385)
People who hold this against Noem, probably wouldn't have voted for her anyway. It doesn't bother me in the least.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: AnotherYank 4/30/2024 8:50:32 PM (No. 1709396)
I saw this story covered on Gutfeld! last night. They kept calling this 14 month-old dog a puppy, as if it were a precious little poodle or something, and failed to mention that it attacked people and livestock. Very disappointing. They say that 1/20 people are either sociopaths or psychopaths. I believe that it might be the same for dogs, and when one lives on a farm with presumably many dogs and other animals, one is going to run into ones share of violent nut cases. Even visiting other people's houses, one runs into a few that have to be locked away before one can enter. Shame that this will be held against her. I like Kristi Noem.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: red1066 4/30/2024 9:16:11 PM (No. 1709408)
This is one of those stories that's best left untold. Noem is monumentally stupid to tell this tale especially since she's in politics. This could absolutely end her political career let alone any chance of being Trump's VP candidate.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: DVC 4/30/2024 10:39:13 PM (No. 1709467)
Rev#13, that no consequences attitude, applied to children is on parade in the university demonstrations. You don't shoot unruly , worthless children, but you work very hard to keep them from turning into dangerous terrorist sympathetizers.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: john56 4/30/2024 11:58:39 PM (No. 1709508)
First, I'm a dog lover. Most dogs are better people than most people. Second, farm folks are different than city folks like me. I wouldn't have done this, but I know people who have put down a dog for biting or killing animals (although I had a greyhound who sent several cats to an early demise and I was perhaps complicit in getting rid of the evidence). Third, I wouldn't have told the story. But if I had, I'd have changed the dog's name to something like "Killer" or "Rocko" instead of "Cricket," which sounds like a sweet, lovable puppy dog. Fourth, if Trump picks her for VP, I'll still vote for them.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: jeffinitely 5/1/2024 3:27:05 AM (No. 1709551)
My step-dad grew up in a farming family in NorCal. Fast forward and he married my mom and we lived in a happy little suburb around L.A. The family dog became lame and without a thought, my dad loaded the dog and his rifle into the truck. He came back with his rifle and one less bullet. The many suburban kids in the family really didn't think anything of it. Maybe it was this incident where we learned that my dad "wouldn't spend more than the cost of a bullet on a sick dog."
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Muguy 5/1/2024 7:03:42 AM (No. 1709648)
The media will focus on this and create 'facts' that are not true to what happened and then spin it ad infinitum a la the Mittens story "about the dog on in the kennel tied to the roof of his car story" attempting to keep Governor Noem somehow tainted and unfit to be considered as a Trump running mate. As Rush Limbaugh used to say "don't doubt me"....it is happening now in the media, and it is a pre-eptive strike to 'get Trump' any way they can with fake half-truths they proclaim as fact. The same technique showing the POWER of Media worked when a Tina Fey skit on a Saturday Night Live where she played Governor Sarah Palin as saying "I can see Russia from my house" was turned upside down even though it is not possible for this to happen from her actual home in Wasilla, Alaska. The media got ahold of it and the fake comedic quip became firmly entrenched as a fact in the minds of the uninformed typical "low information" voter even though it was totally UNTRUE.
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