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The Electric Car Con Explained

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Posted By: DVC, 1/11/2024 11:10:04 AM

Is electricity a source of energy? Most people will answer yes, which is incorrect. Electricity carries energy but it is not itself a source of energy, which in the U.S. is supplied 60% by natural gas and coal, 18% nuclear and 22% renewables (hydro, solar and wind). The related question is whether cars are a major consumer of energy and hence a significant contributor of Co2 emissions? Again, most people believe both statements are self-evidently true, hence the importance of moving to electric cars. In fact, cars (light-duty transportation) account for less than 5% of global energy demand, with U.S. cars accounting for 19% of the global car fleet,

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Numbers to remember:
US private auto fleet accounts for 1% of global energy use.
Even if ALL American cars were magically 'zero emissions' (impossible) it makes a rounding error to global CO2 emissions.
And CO2 emissions are not harmful in the first place.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Quigley 1/11/2024 11:43:42 AM (No. 1633984)
I try to somewhat follow this subject and have done so for decades. But these numbers are new to me and are really stunning. It shows the power of propaganda to undermine and change basic assumptions and worldview to use actual facts to promote lies. I had assumed consumer auto use was a significant percentage of energy use. But it’s just the most visible and in your face every day.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: ARKfamily 1/11/2024 12:05:52 PM (No. 1634004)
People will believe what they WANT to believe and facts just get in the way.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Venturer 1/11/2024 12:16:54 PM (No. 1634014)
Electric cars and trucks. The biggest boondoggle ever put forth on the people of the world. Follow the money.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 1/11/2024 12:25:50 PM (No. 1634021)
Another crucial point: FTA: "Put simply, cars are not a meaningful source of global emissions and electric cars do not and cannot curtail the continued reliance on fossil fuels in electric generation. On top of this, counting all sources, the U.S. is responsible for only 14% of all global Co2 emissions, declining to 9% by 2050 due to rest of world economic growth. " So, in 26 years, if the USA just ceased to exist, 91% of CO2 emissions would continue. The USA isn't the 'tall pole in the tent' as far as CO2, and in fact, is relatively a small part of this. And.....CO2 is a necessary plant nutrient, and slightly more in the air means more green plant growth worldwide, an unalloyed good.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mc squared 1/11/2024 12:37:34 PM (No. 1634031)
Government interference in the free markets has nothing to do with so-called climate change. It's a method to convince the public that they are doing God's work by having their travel restricted to the proposed '15 minute cities'. Did I mention how profitable climate change has been for those 'in the club'?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 1/11/2024 1:06:49 PM (No. 1634052)
Science has calculated that Yellowstone National Park is the worst polluter on the planet. Its geothermal areas emit over 40 million tons of carbon dioxide per year to the atmosphere not to mention its massive emissions of sulfur dioxide. But the greenies consider this as "good" carbon dioxide and "good" sulfur dioxide so it is ok then because the human virus didn't cause it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 1/11/2024 1:13:18 PM (No. 1634055)
Going Green is nothing more than a 'Get Rich Quick' scheme with government leverage to force the public to buy into it. Al in the name of 'Saving the Planet'. A better word for it is corruption.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Bassman1911 1/11/2024 1:17:08 PM (No. 1634056)
But, but, but, I thought the science was settled. That’s what people in Hollywood told me.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 1/11/2024 3:41:51 PM (No. 1634172)
I'm not listening to you people, I'm checking with Fauci.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: 901AtTheRiver 1/11/2024 4:57:11 PM (No. 1634244)
The master class hoax perpetrated in the basic premise of this article is that CO2 is somehow an undesirable element in our atmosphere. In fact it is essential to all life on planet Earth. Without CO2 all plant life dies, and along with it all other life as well.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: franq 1/12/2024 5:55:39 AM (No. 1634472)
Lies abound. Try doing an internet search on abiotic oil. Anything remotely supporting this is buried. Yes, there are evil and powerful people who want to control the world and get richer.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: coldborezero 1/12/2024 7:10:18 AM (No. 1634499)
My only issue with this article is that proceeds from as false premise: the CO2 is a harmful pollutant. It is not.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: coldborezero 1/12/2024 7:12:56 AM (No. 1634501)
Correction: My only issue with this article is that it proceeds from a false premise: that CO2 is a harmful pollutant. It is not.
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