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You Want Fair Elections? Honestly?

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Posted By: Imright, 12/23/2023 7:47:25 AM

Not until we develop a vaccine that either prevents politicians from lying or allows people to know a lie when they hear, it will our elections ever be fair or honest.Most politicians, not all, are by their nature disingenuous and, at the very least, hyperbolic, with a propensity for massaging the truth and the inconvenient facts to help serve their preferred political narratives. Is utilizing such tactics to manifest the election results you are seeking, honest? Or fair? You can decide for yourself.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: cor-vet 12/23/2023 8:34:14 AM (No. 1622831)
But if you're a republican and lie, you can be censured and expelled. Not so if you're a dimrat!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: smokincol 12/23/2023 8:48:20 AM (No. 1622845)
seems like Argentina just had a "fair" election so why don't we do what they did?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bpl40 12/23/2023 8:52:33 AM (No. 1622852)
The formula is simple and staring us in the face 1.One day voting 2. Paper ballots 3. Voter ID. Just watch who bitterly opposes this and you will realize who the villains are.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Red Ghost 12/23/2023 9:12:59 AM (No. 1622880)
Lying politicians have existed for decades. Voter manipulation either by gerrymandering or handing out goodies along with outright pockets of voter fraud have existed for decades and most wise citizens know this. Attempted fraud was evident in the 2016 presidential election when the media would not call the election for Trump, as democrats eagerly waited for enough "votes" to be found in Philadelphia. Trump's spectacular success in 2016 smashed that fraud. But, what has not existed for decades is the blatant and unapologetic use of taxpayer entities, such as the FBI, in partnership with a corrupt and vicious media, aggressively pushing candidates and political agendas by manipulating facts, and, as we saw in 2020, suppressing information that could hurt democrat/socialist candidates while exaggerating, lying and inventing stories about conservatives. The Trump/Biden so-called election is of course the most conspicuous example. What also hasn't existed for decades is the extraordinary and blatant massive ballot stuffing and election data manipulation, enhanced by staggering sums of private (Zuckerberg bucks) and taxpayer money, that financed massive voter fraud that overwhelmed Trump's lead. What has not existed for decades, or perhaps we just didn't see it, was such a pernicious, organized cabal steadfast in installing a weak, feeble, dangerously incapacitated shell of a man that is being propped up by an oligarchy intent on the country's destruction. It's going to take way more than just informed, energized voters to reinstate fair elections, honestly. Sadly, I don't believe there is anyone in our government willing or capable of ensuring fair elections. Republicans, conservative media in particular, we all, have been cowed into silence with no real discussion or serious investigation taking place over these last nearly four years, regarding the traitorous conduct of the 2020 elections. When the 2020 election cannot even be discussed how can the 2024 elections possibly be fair and honest?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Banjo Willy 12/23/2023 11:00:53 AM (No. 1622953)
If not "fair" then at least Republicans should learn how to cheat better
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Reply 6 - Posted by: RubiconDan 12/23/2023 11:30:04 AM (No. 1622969)
Poster #4, Red Ghost, nailed it. I said in 2021, after Jan 6 protest about the installation of a corrupt candidate, now that they have successfully cheated with a national presidential election, how can we ever expect a fair election? Their TDS has only grown and their arrogance has increased because no one has been held accoutable. Remember Ashli Babbit.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: cold porridge 12/23/2023 11:43:21 AM (No. 1622975)
The majority of the members of congress are/were attorneys. By their very nature they are dishonest. Lawyers lie. If they didn't they wouldn't able to get criminals off. They work for the money, not for the truth.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: BarryNo 12/23/2023 12:04:47 PM (No. 1622998)
You want fair elections? Start using the second amendment.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 12/23/2023 1:49:49 PM (No. 1623073)
There was a time in America's history when only land owners and merchants were allowed to vote. You want fair elections? What about knowledgeable voters? Too many people have their heads filled with rubbish and have been dumbed down. Too many people are dishonest and their vote can be bought. So much for knowledgeable voters. This all goes back to education. Honesty left our schools when we removed God. It's been replaced with rubbish that is blindly accepted as truth.
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