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Big Loss for Biden's Crusade Against'Ghost Guns'

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Posted By: zoidberg, 7/17/2023 9:46:00 AM

A couple of years ago, an "80 percent" receiver I purchased refused to accept parts, let alone chamber and fire cartridges, until my son and I drilled and milled it to completion; that's because unfinished firearms are not firearms. For a long time, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) agreed. But, pressured by the Biden administration, the ATF tried to extend firearms regulations to a lot of things that aren't guns but could, with work, become one. Now a federal judge is injecting some sense, ruling in a lawsuit that bureaucrats can't just decide that inert objects are guns.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper 7/17/2023 10:18:54 AM (No. 1514561)
This is yuge, and has gone unnoticed. Read the decision and think about the implications and it will dawn on you as to how big this potentially is. Major slap down to the gun control nazis.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mcscow sailor 7/17/2023 11:25:54 AM (No. 1514599)
It is the right decision. The atf, left unchecked, could classify iron ore as a potential gun part…just like the epa tried to classify puddles as federal waters
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Reply 3 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 7/17/2023 11:27:01 AM (No. 1514600)
It's a paperweight, if left untouched.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: JHHolliday 7/17/2023 4:17:30 PM (No. 1514733)
The "ghost gun" krep is just a distraction. The ATF knows full well that these guns aren't being made by Jamal, Donterious and Antwon in their babymama's bedroom. It's to try to control mostly white gun hobbyists by declaring almost any piece of old metal as a potential firearm. I am sure there are a few preppers on the extreme right that see a coming Armageddon but most are just gun hobby guys. There are ways that will work against all these shootings. Get caught with a gun while committing a felony or in possession of a gun by a convicted felon and you get five years on the chain gang. No plea bargaining, no bail....just straight to the leg irons. They could be used to scrape the shite off the streets of San Francisco and other useful cleanup duties. Won't happen of course. Like Rooster Cockburn said, "They will accuse the rat catchers of being too hard on the rats".
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 7/17/2023 5:39:55 PM (No. 1514771)
There were conflicting reports about the recent moped shootings in New York City. According to one version, the killer fired a ghost gun. Other articles said the serial number was filed off. Which is it? The distinction cannot be difficult. I’m thinking the ghost gun talk was a liberal narrative lie.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 7/17/2023 8:20:36 PM (No. 1514872)
Great news. I know a number of people who have finished an 85% complete frame and then added the parts required to make it into a functional gun, either rifle or handgun. Screw the ATF pukes.
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