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The Nuclear Theory You Never Knew Was Nonsense

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Posted By: DVC, 6/13/2023 8:12:59 PM

Steve Milloy, long-time editor and founder of JunkScience.com, announced an explosive exposé this month in an extended article. Government and private scientists in radiation safety have been attempting to cover up a pattern of misconduct and hijack the Health Physics Society, a professional organization of radiation safety experts and officials, to take down the society's series of twenty-two videos featuring Dr. Ed Calabrese, which exposes a longtime scam in radiation safety matters. The issue is Linear No Threshold Toxicology — LNT for short, also called the "one hit" theory of toxic radiation genetic mutation. These bad actors have also conspired to censor and silence Calabrese

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I became aware of this fact, that the LNT approach to radiation exposure is anti-science BS about 20 years ago, IIRC. Lots of "science" is just the popular BS pumped out at one point, and takes decades to unravel.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 6/13/2023 8:28:14 PM (No. 1491395)
As odd as it sound, very low levels of radiation are proven harmless, and slightly higher levels of radiation have been proven to be beneficial. Perhaps this is why Denver area is a healthy place to live....it has dramatically higher background radiation levels than most cities, in fact, higher than the "deadly radiation" in about 95% of the exclusion zone in Japan which was evacuated after the meltdown of the Fukushima reactors. The Japanese authorities buy the whole Linear No Threshold theory of nuclear radiation exposure. And regardless that their "exclusion zone" is less radioactive than Denver....people were still ordered from their homes. If you want to read about the amazing "science experiment" that was accidentally done on Taiwan about 30-40 years ago, which proved this beneficial radiation effect, here's a link to a technical paper. In the last 10 years or so, the truth has been inexorably leaking out. There are a number of technical papers out there, and they were initially scoffed at because the data disagreed with the long held LNT theory. But it has always been just a theory, NO DATA to support it. And when the data got generated by accident....it disproved the theory, big time. Ten thousand people were exposed for up to 20 years....and the effects were tremendously beneficial for health, measured in many different ways. The effects were undeniable, and counter to prevailing "knowledge"....which turned out to be base on nothing at all except supposition. https://scholarworks.umass.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1338&context=dose_response
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Reply 2 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 6/13/2023 8:58:28 PM (No. 1491413)
Yay! I just got to learn all about hormesis! Thanks, OP!! This is fascinating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis Also mentions the accidental Taiwan experiment: "In Taiwan, recycled radiocontaminated steel was inadvertently used in the construction of over 100 apartment buildings....." Good stuff!!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: LadyHen 6/13/2023 9:03:34 PM (No. 1491419)
Fascinating. Mike Rowe did a recent short "The Way I Heard It" podcast about the elderly folks who refused to leave the city of Chernobyl. The man highlighted (one of many btw) just celebrated his 90th birthday. He has zero health issues. Lots of animals, even domestic animals live there too and are fine. It really makes you wonder how many lies have shaped our lives.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 6/13/2023 9:06:06 PM (No. 1491421)
Re #2, the radioactive rebar affected 1700 apartments, with 10,000 people exposed for between 9 and 20 years. HUGE "experiment" which would be unethical to do, but once it had happened and was discovered....the data was then gathered, expecting to find thousands of "new cancers", and the results were the opposite. Amazing stuff. I first read of this years ago and bounced the concept off my VERY smart cellular biologist research professor friend. He expressed little surprise, saying "A little radiation damage to your DNA probably causes the natural DNA repair mechanisms to dial up their activity levels, and this probably catches more DNA damage than might otherwise have been caught, improving health." Made sense to me. But I stopped short of getting a radioactive source and putting it under my bed. Grin.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JHHolliday 6/13/2023 9:35:04 PM (No. 1491440)
It’s interesting to see the pictures of Hiroshima from 1945 and today. A thriving Japanese city now. It was thought at one time that it would be hundreds of years before those areas would be habitable again. Apparently not, which leads me to believe that the greenies simply want to rid this country of cheap, affordable energy. It’s all about control, control the electric grid and you can control us deplorables.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: czechlist 6/13/2023 9:51:43 PM (No. 1491451)
I stood at ground zero in Nagasaki in August 1971. The plaque on the stele read something like - scientists believe nothing will grow here for 75 years. I read it while I stood on a grassy lawn in a lovely park filled with trees, shrubs, flowers and little girls playing with kittens. Experts!?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: seamusm 6/13/2023 11:01:26 PM (No. 1491476)
Liars are predisposed to lie regardless of the subject and what we've seen of late is the consistent behavior of 'doubling down' or using media or experts to help suppress the truth. All to gain power over the rest of us. It matters not the subject.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 6/13/2023 11:43:18 PM (No. 1491491)
Isaac Asimov noted that while potassium is incorporated into the bodies of humans and other animals, some of that potassium is the isotope K40, which is radioactive and accounts for the majority of the radiation exposure for most humans. Asimov noted that life evolved over billions of years when the fraction of the potassium in existence which was radioactive K40 was far higher. Our systems therefore have built in methods of dealing with moderate levels of radiation exposure. This is proved by the Taiwan cobalt60 accident.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: JackBurton 6/14/2023 7:04:16 AM (No. 1491563)
I was explaining LNT to someone and used the following. Let's say 100 people are dropped from a height of 100ft and all 100 died. LNT would say that therefore if you dropped them 1 foot, one person out of the 100 would die. Or one out of 200 would die if dropped from 6 inches. Silly, right? But every time you hear the EPA saying a new rule will save, say, 1500 lives a year.... think. Six inches.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Bur Oak 6/14/2023 8:13:50 AM (No. 1491599)
LNT is used by the State of California to apply their Proposition 65 to about 23 pages of chemicals, many of which occur naturally in the environment.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: TexaTucky 6/14/2023 9:14:55 AM (No. 1491639)
Intuitively, any critical-thinker understands that the notion that "there is no safe level of radiation and that any exposure to radiation puts people at risk" is hooey if only he considers the fact that we're bombarded with radiation all the time. And if you've ever flown on an airplane, you're really getting hit. My own little empirical evidence of the relative risk of simply flying in an airplane versus spending the day at the world's worst nuclear accident site showed a higher reading on my dosimeter post-flight than after finishing the day at Chernobyl and driving through the nearby Pripyat countryside where not-a-few pensioners remained living in their homes.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: red1066 6/14/2023 10:07:52 AM (No. 1491679)
Kind of makes sense when one considers that radiation has been used to rid people of cancer for decades. We're exposed to radiation when we go to the dentist, and when we go outside in the sun. It's the extremely high doses of radiation that are harmful I guess.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Trapper 6/14/2023 10:16:20 AM (No. 1491684)
Someone should start an online museum of science fraud and myths. Some initial entires could include Karl Marx, Sigmund Freud, Ralph Nader, Algore, everyone who still clings to Clovis First, Anthony Fauci, Hermann Muller, all of the climate change zealots, and, ahem, Robert Kennedy Jr. and the entire antivax crowd.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Vaquero45 6/14/2023 11:38:36 AM (No. 1491720)
Every time I run into someone who’s wary of nuclear power to generate electricity (and these days, that’s not often) I tell them I have three words to change their minds: “United States Navy.” There are God knows how many nuclear-powered submarines, aircraft carriers and other Navy ships sailing around the world with no problems at all. Navy nuclear power technicians are thoroughly and expertly trained, and safety procedures are rigidly enforced. Our electric power grid should have been all nuclear-powered decades ago.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: HicoKid 6/14/2023 2:14:32 PM (No. 1491833)
In my younger days, one of my duties was Radiation Safety Officer for x-ray and gamma ray inspection operations. There are "safe" limits for hands, whole body, etc., and I kept track of film badges and dosimeters to make sure technicians stayed within the allowed doses. I know that we are exposed to increased radiation in the mountains, in airplanes and yes, by eating Brazil nuts. But, I will pass on getting any unnecessary exposure.
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