Appeals court blocks bump stock ban
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Jazz Shaw
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
1/8/2023 7:41:53 PM
During the Trump administration, a ban on bump stocks was passed in the wake of the 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas. That law has been the target of multiple challenges, almost all from gun rights groups. On Friday, a federal appeals court in Louisiana struck down the law, finding that under the plain language of the Gun Control Act and National Firearms Act, a bump stock “is excluded from the technical definition of ‘machinegun’ as defined” in those statutes. The BATFE and the Biden administration disagree and are fighting to keep the ban in place. This ruling does not mean that the ban is now lifted.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 1/8/2023 9:16:24 PM (No. 1373902)
Full auto is really not that effective. The bump stocks really don’t make the weapon more effective. I can fire an AR almost as fast as the so called bump stocks and with much more accuracy. It’s just another piece of propaganda about those “scary assault “ weapons.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Mcscow sailor 1/8/2023 9:21:42 PM (No. 1373905)
Tend to agree that a bunp stock is ab accessory. But then again, so is a silencer…which is regulated
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 1/8/2023 9:28:41 PM (No. 1373908)
It was obvious that a bump stock is NOT full auto, based on tge clear written language of the law.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
HicoKid 1/8/2023 9:55:41 PM (No. 1373923)
I doubt that the feds were using bump stocks in Vegas.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
chumley 1/8/2023 11:34:03 PM (No. 1373958)
I dont want one. Full auto is stupid and ineffective. The neighbors down the road were burning off mag after mag on full auto a few nights ago. The goobers cant afford heat in their house or even a car that runs, but they can burn off a few hundred worth of ammo in a minute or two? Yeesh.
At the same time, it isn't the governments business to tell me I cant.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
DVC 1/9/2023 12:09:37 PM (No. 1374303)
Inquired about full auto use with a retired SEAL instructor in a course I took a few months ago. He said that they never used it unless they were trying to break contact and retreat, and even then, since they only had the ammo they brought with them, only sparingly.
Most of the time, even if full auto is available, a two or three shot burst is most effective. I've fired a number of different full auto shoulder fired weapons. Two shot bursts are effective, more in a single burst is mostly just making a full mag into an empty mag.
OTOH, bump stocks are NOT machine guns, it is very clear from the legal definition of machine gun in the federal laws, in place for nearly a century. I've considered buying a machine gun, jumping through all the legal hoops, spending a lot of money. They start at about $15,000 and depending on what you want, can approach $100,000 for some models....or more. Just not that excited about them. If they were cheap and not controlled, I might have a switch on some guns, but would probably have it set to "semi-auto" rather than "auto" about 98% of the time anyway.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DVC 1/9/2023 12:13:35 PM (No. 1374308)
And one final thing. At the end of the training course, the SEALs broke out several "AK-47s", actual select fire assault rifles. The students ran magazine after magazine through them, mostly for fun. I ran over 200 rounds through one, mostly in two and three shot bursts. Hard to keep on target beyond two or three shots, which shows that most of the third world folks spraying bullets, as seen on TV news so often, are missing with almost all those shots - a good thing.
Beyond the range of single digit yards, full auto, unless it is a tripod mounted belt fed heavy machine gun, is mostly just a noisemaker.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
pensom2 1/10/2023 11:41:46 AM (No. 1375144)
The bump stock issue is more about politics than legal language or firearm technicalities. As others have said, bump stocks diminish accuracy, so they're more trouble than they are worth. Defending bump stocks is a losing issue politically. If conservatives keep defending the use of bump stocks, they will get sucked into a Pelosi-style political and public relations trap.
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