Thank Pence for Biden's Trainwreck
Townhall.com,
by
John Nantz
Original Article
Posted By: DW626,
4/12/2022 7:15:27 AM
There can be little doubt that former Vice President Mike Pence thought he was doing the right thing. There are certainly many pragmatic reasons for his decision to not intervene in the electoral processes during those fateful days in January 2020. We’re a year and a half into the geriatric Biden regime and those pragmatic reasons are quickly losing their luster. The nation is suffering—not from the constitutional crisis feared by the establishment
Reply 1 - Posted by:
NamVet70 4/12/2022 7:23:25 AM (No. 1126084)
Whatever the reason he went along with the theft, we can never trust him again.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
3XALADY 4/12/2022 7:26:06 AM (No. 1126086)
That he is not self aware of what he brought on this country is unbelievable and that he is audacious enough to run for president is unbelievable. His name is mud to about 81 million people.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Venturer 4/12/2022 7:32:24 AM (No. 1126092)
3exalady what you said. How does he have then audacity to run for President after the terrible shrinkage of his male parts as he watched the cheating and went along with it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
fhancock 4/12/2022 7:36:45 AM (No. 1126096)
He has NO backbone
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Rich323 4/12/2022 7:41:51 AM (No. 1126101)
Yeah Mike only fourteen days to flatten the country. Pence as the head of the Covid task force gave the president the worst political advice in history. Pence killed the economy and then refused to double check the vote totals. That’s two strikes.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
MOBeef4u 4/12/2022 7:47:53 AM (No. 1126108)
We are living a catch-22 situation. Had Pence acted as we wanted him to there would have been a political upheaval that we would probably still be enduring. It took living the Biden administration nightmare to see what we could have avoided. Sadly there is nothing we can do about it now. I'm not sure that at the time anyone really imagined just how bad this administration would turn out to be.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 4/12/2022 8:01:40 AM (No. 1126124)
I agree that Pence is a good and decent man who thought he was doing the right thing, but thinking you're doing the right thing and actually doing the right thing aren't always the same. Pence was in a position to prevent what we're going through now, but he punted and we're paying the price for his wrong decision now.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Amoeba 4/12/2022 8:18:19 AM (No. 1126149)
I wont vote for him even if he gets the GOPe nomination. It would be the same as voting for Romney.
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Pence is one of those wimps that think a person is evil if he’s not milquetoast and afraid of his own shadow.
Do he despised Trump.
He just needs to cut to it and open a bathhouse with Romney.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Sanchin 4/12/2022 8:37:41 AM (No. 1126173)
Pence deserves the utmost scorn and blame for his cowardice on that day and for his stance and comments following ever since. Unfortunately, the blame does not fall on him alone. Those who have been elected and appointed (thereby those who are a reflection of what the United States is and has devolved into) have taken on the characteristics and attitude that has greatly surpassed any faults attributed to King George III (and I dare say have embraced the ideology of Hitler, sans the objective of exterminating the Jews, with the goal of world domination). In the end, Pence is a weak man with visions of continued importance. He along with so many others in both parties are members and leaders of the present-day version of the American reincarnation of the Vichy government.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
chumley 4/12/2022 8:38:38 AM (No. 1126175)
No. Dont deflect. Yes, Pence is a coward, but he isn't to blame. Those dirty communist democrats who stole the election are to blame. In a just country he never would have been put into that position.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 4/12/2022 8:46:33 AM (No. 1126182)
Thinking and actually doing the right thing in politics doesn't cut it.
Not just Pence who screwed America on J6. Plenty of others we can point the finger at starting with Turtle, CJ Roberts, AG Barr, and McCarthy. And of course, the local elections officials who printed up and counted fraudulent ballots. A collapse of American leadership at its best.
And special thanks to the chicoms, russkies, and the mullahs for the good job they did in hacking into the dominion voting systems and handing biden the cheater an extra 10+ million votes.
And a very special thanks to our msm who slobbered all over themselves in burying the Great Election Fraud of 2020.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 4/12/2022 8:48:26 AM (No. 1126183)
In simple man terms Pence helped with the 'Big Steal' because he was a never Trumper all along. The fool had us fooled until that election. Pence better change parties if he wants to run for anything Pence is toast. FMP
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
bpl40 4/12/2022 8:55:05 AM (No. 1126186)
To paraphrase Churchill commenting about his successor Clement Atlee - Pence is a modest man with lot to be modest about!
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Pence displayed his cowardice back as governor of Indiana. Despite his carefully cultivated holy roller image, when Indiana passed the rather anodyne, self-evident religious freedom act, Pence listened to the wrong people: media, the hard left and militant gays (possibly redundant) and opposed it. In Indiana, mind you.
The old dog couldn't learn new tricks, or get a backbone transplanted before becoming VP. In DC the mania to keep the drawbridge pulled up is relentless and social pressure - at home, at school, at work, on the golf course, at the supermarket etc. - to adhere to DC's diseased norms is constant even if subtle at times.
Republicans, surrounded by Democrats (and that's just the civil servants) start to question or abandon their principles. They read fawning pieces about lefty scum in the Wash Post and start to envy them. Even a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul occasionally goes wobbly endorsing this or that big-government boondoggle or, worse, pulling punches to get along.
Like so many others, Pence wanted prestige without price, stardom without sacrifice. He unilaterally surrendered. Let us speak no more of him.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Starlifter Nav 4/12/2022 9:13:11 AM (No. 1126209)
So can a sticker of Pence be produced that says "YOU Did that !" ?
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
cThree 4/12/2022 9:17:48 AM (No. 1126216)
I respect Pence, and I think God works in mysterious ways. Consider this:
When Trump was battling the "Deep State," we really had no idea how extensive and evil it was (is).
Biden's installation is a blessing in disguise. Since he cannot lead without slipping on his own spittle, we see the leftists for who they are, and where they are, which is damn near everywhere.
Consider that for all the massive failures of this administration, NOT ONE staffer has been fired. The message is clear: all of this is intentional.
America may fall. I don't know if we can win this battle for freedom, the battle Reagan spoke of years ago. But I think Biden's presence has lifted the fog and we see the enemy more clearly than we ever would had Trump continued to be the President.
The great weakness of the left is their arrogance. Pride goeth before the fall, as the Proverb has it.
The other unknown is what kind of people we shall be, Zelenskyys or Quislings.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Namma 4/12/2022 9:20:42 AM (No. 1126218)
MAYBE, pence was in on the fake "infrastructure rebuild" paid off and told that he could run for president and the dems would support him. I know, its just a thought, but why, after not doing his job, which was to send the conflicted votes from 7 states, to make sure the votes were legal, would Pence even THINK of running for president. Money?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 4/12/2022 9:31:41 AM (No. 1126235)
He now wants to be POTUS? What a bad joke!
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 4/12/2022 9:44:34 AM (No. 1126256)
We have Pence to thank for Fauci, too. I had ever so hoped that Trump would have brought the real doctor on board and that was Ben Carson. He put Pence in charge and I believe Pence brought on Fauci.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
moebellini3 4/12/2022 10:04:53 AM (No. 1126286)
It's almost as if Biden and his administration hate Americans, our Constitution, and want to extract a pound of flesh from anyone they think supported President Trump. It's not as if, it is fact. This stolen election by anti American communists like Soros and Obama has destroyed our country. Every democrat and rino republican are responsible for this disaster. They even sit back and watch as our children are being indoctrinated and their lives destroyed. Every day we read about the destruction of Ukraine while it serves as a distraction from the destruction of our own country. These people are so sick and demented who have to wonder if this was the plan all along. Think about it, Putin gets what he wants and China gets what they want, no not Taiwan, America. Get it yet....
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Ladyhawke 4/12/2022 10:19:42 AM (No. 1126307)
Yes, Pence failed us all, but I disagree with the poster that said it it too late now. If enough state legislatures, who have the sole constitutional power over state elections, were to decertify, something would happen. As we would be in uncharted territory, there are varying opinions as to what that might be. But it has to happen! Fixing election fraud is the ONLY thing that matters right now. It is what has caused all the pain the USA is currently suffering!
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
red1066 4/12/2022 10:20:15 AM (No. 1126308)
What do you mean ALMOST intentional? It is intentional.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Italiano 4/12/2022 10:23:40 AM (No. 1126316)
W probably always thought that he "was doing the right thing." How did that turn out?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
49 Ford 4/12/2022 10:33:26 AM (No. 1126329)
Mike Pence could not be expected to make good on what the state legislatures and federal courts failed to do. IMO he rightly decided that he had no such authority.
The 2020 election was stolen in the months and weeks leading up to and including November 3/4. The theft was effectively ratified by the courts' refusals to do their jobs. It was not Pence's place to assume for himself some "implied" authority to reject election results certified by individual states.
The legislatures and governors passively permitted their election laws to be shredded. The courts buckled to the pressures exerted by the radical left. To blame the results of these institutional failures on one man is unfair and completely unrealistic.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 4/12/2022 10:46:47 AM (No. 1126345)
I'm mad at the Dems for stealing the election, but furious at the Republicans for letting them - they sat back and denied the truth because they wanted rid of Trump. Pence is only one of the many RINOs that I despise who were embarrassed by the "mean tweets" meme and other crap slung by the Dems. I haven't given a dollar to any Republican since they wimped out after 2020, and don't intend to ever again.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
lakerman1 4/12/2022 10:55:38 AM (No. 1126351)
Fauci, in his official position, was going to be at the head of the line in dealing with Kung Flu.
Dr. Carson, rather than Pence, would have been the best choice to coordinate government efforts. Dr. Carson knondws what a mask can do and can't do, and would have been able to control Fauci.
Just to show how insane the mask requirement was and is, The qb who died at the bumper of a dump truck, in 2020 was a Washington Redskin, and 'broke protocol' by attending a party without wearing a mask, and was fined 40,000 dollars by his team.
How insane was that penalty? Then he did it again, and was cut by the Native American Mockers.
Do we really need a Washington in the NFL?
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
PrayerWarrior 4/12/2022 10:58:33 AM (No. 1126354)
A man's character is revealed in stressful times. Dr. Scott Atlas, who was at the WH, said Pence was "bullied" by the Scarf lady and Fauci. Why didn't he resist their intimidation? We will never know why Pence faltered during that Covid time or later on J6 when our nation needed him. But this scar on our nation's soul will take a long time to heal.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
MDConservative 4/12/2022 11:10:53 AM (No. 1126366)
In the counting of the Electoral votes, all certified by the states as THEIR vote, in a manner prescribed by the Consititution, the VP acts only
Let's follow the process: 1) Each STATE shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors. 2) The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President. 3) The President of the Senate (Pence) shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, OPEN all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; 4) The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President.
There are processes for challenging votes, and these were shut down in the wake of the J6 public incursion. Six REPUBLICAN states sent Biden electors that ensured his victory with little regard or investigation of the circumstances. And NOW these brave legislators talk about "decertifying" that which is well out of the barn? Surely, they jest. (What all did Zuck's Bucks buy?)
You want to blame someone? Start with six state legislatures, Mitch and Chuck...the UNIPARTY.
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Judas Pence went along with the steal and betrayal of this nation. He had no legitimate reasons to do so other than personal gain. Gain he did, a mansion in one of the most expensive areas in Indiana. My guess is most of the leakage Trump fought against came out of the office of Judas as well when he was VP. Pence was asked by the States to give them time to reassess the ballot issues in their states, and he refused.
He deserves all the shame and humiliation we can give him. Churchian that he is, he needs to get back to being right with God, and until then, he is not to be trusted.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/12/2022 12:11:02 PM (No. 1126452)
Pence showed that when it came to the “nut cutting” big time that he could not cut the political mustard. If the wimpy Republicans do something stupid like nominating Pence in 2024, a good amount of Trump supporters will not vote for him in the following general election and a leftist Democrat will end up in the White House again.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Philipsonh 4/12/2022 12:38:05 PM (No. 1126474)
It does not matter WHAT he thought; he was picked by Trump to be his back-up man and to support him FULLY. That is what the job of VP is, not to think and act for himself. It is NOT an independent position. Pence failed us completely and can run for dogcatcher, for all I care.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
robertthomason 4/12/2022 1:25:14 PM (No. 1126532)
For what it's worth, folks might want to review how VP Richard Nixon handled the three sets of electoral vote results from Hawaii when he presided over the 1961 electoral vote count.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Rinktum 4/12/2022 1:30:41 PM (No. 1126538)
I knew the comments on this thread would be interesting to say the least. I will not absolve Pence of the guilt I believe he bears, nor will I forgive the state legislatures with a Republican majority who stood by while all these mail-in, drop box, and vote harvesting mandates were illegally being issued by their governors. This is where good governance and the defense of the United States Constitution should have prevailed but these cowards let this happen right under their noses. We are seeing the greatest surrender of power in the history of the country because men and women were afraid to stand against what was clearly illegal behavior.
Now look at what that has caused us. We are living in a dystopian nightmare that could have been avoided but for want of courage. Each day brings fresh outrage as I witness one disaster play out after another and know it did not have to be this way. How do these pathetic elected officials live with themselves? Their inaction in a time when action was more than warranted is the cause for much if not all our suffering. What is even worse, they will do it again.
Democrats will make sure that some disaster befalls us to enable them to call for Mail-in ballots, drop boxes and vote harvesting. It will happen and I doubt any of these pathetic cowards who sat on their hands the last time are even prepared or want to stop it. I am so disgusted with men and women who want to live off their benefits as elected representatives but continue to fail their constituents day after day. It’s one thing to have to fight this demonic democrat party and the media but to have to beg your own party to do what is right is appalling. Where is the organizational strategy to fight this? Is anyone talking about election security? Republicans can’t wait to take back the House and Senate but I ask you, what good will that do the American people? They want the prestige and power but they run from mounting any kind of defense or, God forbid, we expect them to actually go on the offensive to save the Republic. I am not confident that Republicans have it in them to engage in the fight for the soul of this nation and that in a nutshell is a huge problem.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
udanja99 4/12/2022 4:56:12 PM (No. 1126735)
#15, Pence did not oppose that bill. He signed it. And then, when the alphabet crowd got to him, he unsigned it. I will never forget that and was beyond disappointed when Trump chose him as his running mate.
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#6, Just to be clear, I did imagine how bad it would be. Unfortunately, we’ve only begun to barely scratch the surface.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
3XALADY 4/12/2022 6:16:42 PM (No. 1126797)
And I'm hearing very little is being or has been done to rectify the changed voting laws that caused all of this. I know True The Vote has been busy but not sure who else. Possibly Georgia is working on it. Pennsylvania seems to still be as unlawful as they were at election time in 2020. Until those laws are corrected, dhims win.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
TXknitter 4/12/2022 7:29:17 PM (No. 1126860)
Yes #35, my Indiana conservative friends were beyond disappointed too. They were active Republicans and had Mike and Karen stories from when he was Governor. Trump was talked into Pence by the Bush “advisors” and now he picks Oz.
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