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Posted By: earlybird, 3/19/2022 12:10:10 PM

To some users, it feels like another Big Tech bait and switch. To others, it’s a case of getting half a loaf. But to many, it’s a betrayal of a principled promise. The search engine DuckDuckGo will now begin making judgments about the accuracy of the information produced by its search algorithms. As Breitbart reports in “Diet Google: DuckDuckGo Will ‘Down-Rank’ What It Decides Is ‘Disinformation,’”, the company’s CEO and founder, Gabriel Weinberg, posted a Twitter thread announcing that, as part of standing with Ukraine, the search engine had been rolling out search updates that down-rank sites associated with Russian disinformation.

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And DDG is an inferior search engine to boot!

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Califedup 3/19/2022 12:17:53 PM (No. 1104255)
Duck Duck Gone. Try Brave.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: earlybird 3/19/2022 12:21:04 PM (No. 1104258)
Re #2, what is our assurance that Brave is a good engine and safe/private?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird 3/19/2022 12:21:42 PM (No. 1104260)
I obviously meant #1.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird 3/19/2022 12:25:21 PM (No. 1104265)
DDG is a real loser when it comes to doing a search. And I think it is odd when I put in my local market’s name and get Starbuck’s at the top of the column. There is a small Starbuck’s in the market, but my entry is specifically the market by name and location. Leaving DDG ASAP…Wenberg is for sale to the highest bidder.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Califedup 3/19/2022 12:29:47 PM (No. 1104272)
#2 - So far from my own personal experience they seem ok but the key word is seem. Your point is well taken. Who knows what they really do with the info or if the impose any kind of censorship.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: udanja99 3/19/2022 12:30:24 PM (No. 1104273)
After years of DDG, I switched to Brave last week on the recommendation of Dan Bongino. #2, there are no guarantees in life - we’ll just have to wait and see.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 3/19/2022 12:52:47 PM (No. 1104292)
Never trust any search engine. Use them if you must but don't trust them - ever!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Krause 3/19/2022 12:55:52 PM (No. 1104296)
All censors and fact checkers, anywhere, should be identified by name. Not to be some secret panel.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: BarryNo 3/19/2022 12:57:51 PM (No. 1104301)
I'm going elsewhere. Definitely DuckDuckGone.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: earlybird 3/19/2022 1:01:27 PM (No. 1104304)
When it comes to news, breaking or otherwise, commentary and analysis, it is pretty hard to beat what Lucianne’s LDotter peeps ferret out from a myriad of sites and spoon feed to members here.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Mofongo 3/19/2022 1:03:15 PM (No. 1104305)
Switched back to Google when this news came out. A much better engine and no more dishonest.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 3/19/2022 1:16:28 PM (No. 1104313)
Take my search terms and show me every result. Period. If it's out there I want to see it. Let me determine what's relevant.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: stablemoney 3/19/2022 1:54:43 PM (No. 1104331)
I consider all the media narratives to be disinformation. The government is misinformation. The politicians, schools, doctors, clergy, tech companies, CEO's, all have lost their credibility, and will not be believed any longer. The consequence of lying all the time is that nobody believes you any longer.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: MickTurn 3/19/2022 1:54:58 PM (No. 1104332)
Hey Ducky Duck...if you ban all Democrap/Leftists that takes care of 99.9% of 'Disinformation'. Thanks, I'll send you an invoice for 20% of your next 5 years of revenue.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: RedWhiteBlue 3/19/2022 2:18:05 PM (No. 1104349)
How does one get the search engine without the browser? I like like Firefox and wold like to keep it.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Lawsy0 3/19/2022 2:48:04 PM (No. 1104368)
Try Brave. Try Gab. Try going cold turkey.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Corndoggies 3/19/2022 3:04:20 PM (No. 1104379)
Someone on this forum suggested startpage.com several years ago and I’ve used that ever since.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 3/19/2022 3:27:20 PM (No. 1104391)
#15, you can. I made initial mistake of downloading browser + search engine. However, I also use the Firefox browser, so I simply made Brave search engine my default search engine within my Firefox browser. It works fine.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Timber Queen 3/19/2022 3:45:55 PM (No. 1104405)
Like #17, I also use Startpage from a Ldot recommendation. I've been using it at least 10 years; fair search results and privacy is their core reason for being.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: chumley 3/19/2022 4:18:40 PM (No. 1104421)
I switched to Brave on all my computers a few days ago. The results are a little different. They feel like those dark web search engines, but it can be gotten used to. DDG is out.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: dman 3/19/2022 6:14:35 PM (No. 1104467)
I'll stick with DDG until evidence shows otherwise. Any censorship is a HUUUGE mistake. If sadly true then the marketplace will simply sprout another search engine. Demand for privacy AND impartiality will not go away.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: doublesharp 3/19/2022 7:03:20 PM (No. 1104496)
I use Brave and it is only average at best. Maps are lousy, search results are tricky - click the top one w/out looking close and it is often misleading spam. I still use Brave but also use Google for the maps.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: JHHolliday 3/19/2022 8:48:22 PM (No. 1104535)
Just a little story that happened to today. I like Brit detective stories and was reading one two nights ago. The plot revolves around rock and mountain climbing and I came across a word I wasn’t familiar with...”cams”. Apparently it is something that a climber pounds into a crevice as a safety device. Well, one of the good things about reading a kindle book is the ability to highlight a word that you aren’t familiar with and the definition will pop up. I did it for ‘cams’ and got a pop up in Amazon the next day offering me a set of six for $227. Wondering if a VPN would stop this?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: DVC 3/19/2022 9:45:26 PM (No. 1104554)
Actually, #23, cams are sort of an axle with two to four linked cam that pivot on the axle. The cams are spring loaded to expand to their widest range. Hold in a hand, squeeze a trigger and you retract the cams against the spring pressure, making the unit narrower. In this narrow configuration you push it into a crack, and release the trigger. The spring rotates the cams until they are in contact with the rock on both sides of the crack. You clip your rope to the device, and load on the rope wedges the cams more tightly in the crack, increasing the holding power. To remove the device later, it must be carrying no load, and the trigger is squeezed, again retracting the cams, releasing the device to be available for reuse. They are expensive, bulky but fast to place and remove and relatively secure in a fall. They have limited range of crack width that they work with, come in different sizes. As to VPN.....it seems likely. It is likely the search engine is linked with google sales systems to "help you" by spying. VPN can make you appear to be located elsewhere so the google targeted location shouldn't be your real location, even if threy spy. But, I don't use a VPN, that is theory. Perhaps it can follow you thru VPN. In Firefox you can go into private mode, which may provide the protection that you desire. Worth a try. IIRC, Explorer offers a similar capability, but I have been using Firefox for many years, so out of touch with the MS browser, and won't use Chrome as it is Google.
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