Minneapolis couple building Uptown straw house
KSTP-TV [Minneapolis St. Paul],
by
Joe Mazan
Original Article
Posted By: voxpopuli,
10/25/2021 10:04:29 PM
A home that's being built in Minneapolis is unconventional because of what the owners are putting in its walls.
Peter Schmitt and his wife, Katie, are building a home with straw inside the walls. They even call it the "Uptown Straw House."
The walls are about 20 inches thick. Schmitt says it costs more to build a house like this but they'll save cash in heating and cooling bills along with cutting their carbon footprint.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 10/25/2021 10:10:53 PM (No. 957463)
I thought the Three Little Pigs taught us how this would work out?
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Greenie dimwits build in urban hellhole. I doubt you are going to get a Class A fire rating on a straw house.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
anniebc 10/25/2021 10:13:07 PM (No. 957465)
Rats, bugs, fire, collapse. What else? Poster #1, you hurt my stomach!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 10/25/2021 10:21:18 PM (No. 957471)
It the straw gets wet it will rot, and stink. If it stays dry, it's a fire trap. No thanks.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
MickTurn 10/25/2021 10:22:28 PM (No. 957473)
I have a friend that did the same in the hill country of Texas...it was just as cold as my house that has standard energy star insulation...and my house is twice the size of the straw house...my utility bill is 15% more than his...
SO if they think they will save money on utilities, guess again...The real R Value of Straw is overrated, period!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
qr4j 10/25/2021 10:36:07 PM (No. 957481)
How was the straw planted, cultivated, and harvested? Were the farmers Amish? Did they use teams of horses? Or were they conventional farmers with big tractors and combines?
I would be concerned about the fire rating too. How long will the home last? Will it need replacement sooner than a conventional home?
There are more issues in being “green” than meet the eye. Sometimes “green” is as foul as urine yellow.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
BarryNo 10/25/2021 10:42:29 PM (No. 957484)
Idiots. Even dry, straw molds, mildews and degrades.if it gets at all wet, even from humidity, the heat genrated can start a fire. Any insurance company that accepts them as a customer better have some very specific exceptions for loss.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
padiva 10/25/2021 10:46:27 PM (No. 957487)
Hmmm. What will the re-sale value be?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Flyball Dogs 10/25/2021 11:05:02 PM (No. 957490)
There are a couple of houses here that are insulated with straw. 60+ years old. Can’t remember if they’re cinder block and/or stucco.
Have never heard of any infestations (and I would have by now).
But excellent points by all. Need to find out how they keep critters at bay.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 10/25/2021 11:05:35 PM (No. 957491)
About ten years ago a vet built a new practice a few blocks from us, using straw bales in the walls for insulation.
It still stands.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
formerNYer 10/25/2021 11:10:27 PM (No. 957497)
You no longer need to wonder why the twin cities have some of the most stupid politicians, these are them. I'll be dollars to donuts Peter Schmitt and his wife, Katie don't RED.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
PChristopher 10/25/2021 11:24:00 PM (No. 957499)
This is not a new concept and I want to see a follow up story whe it starts turning into a compost heap.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 10/25/2021 11:42:53 PM (No. 957504)
Poof! Awwwww!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Birddog 10/25/2021 11:55:13 PM (No. 957508)
I have been building houses since the 70's, was allll into the "Natural House" thang when it first came around, passive solar, bermed, strawbales, timber framing, even one that rotated to follow the sun... of all of the "Innovations" straw walls is likely the worst, particularly in humid/cool areas and compounded when stucco is used as the exterior. The more airtite the building? The worse it will get, stanky, moldy, insect/vermin ridden. Biomass walls eventually bio-degrade as well. Stucco goes on wet...dries from the outside in meaning moisture into the straw no matter what. Surprised that their Insurance agent didn't stop them...
If they really wanted to "Make a difference" with verrrry thick walls? Just collect and crunch up piles of old styrofoam, from coolers, to packing peanuts, remove them (somewhat) permanently from the eco system, better insulating properties, never rot/biodegrade(though actually little measurable difference from just leaving an open airspace) or fill the space up with empty plastic water bottles. Stucco is prevalent in the dry sunny southwest, and rare elswhere for a reason..
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 10/25/2021 11:55:43 PM (No. 957509)
Yes when moisture gets in it guess what happens. It gets moldy and starts to decay. Let me know how that works out.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 10/26/2021 5:51:06 AM (No. 957577)
Hope fire NEVER happens. Some new insulations are fire retardant, this stuff will go up in flames in seconds.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Flyball Dogs 10/26/2021 6:08:32 AM (No. 957581)
An internet search of “straw insulation panels” is informative.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
chance_232 10/26/2021 6:28:07 AM (No. 957588)
Straw construction is nothing new, and successful in dry climates. Think New Mexico. Log construction would be my choice in the great white north.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
mizzmac 10/26/2021 8:26:58 AM (No. 957644)
Hope they're finishing it with BLM signs for siding. Otherwise it would go up pretty fast when the fires start.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 10/26/2021 8:49:59 AM (No. 957672)
If it is a rainy wet, snowy area that house is going to melt like a cake left out in the rain. That might work in dry arid regions of the country like adobe mud houses but not there. Just keep the cows away though.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
lftrn97 10/26/2021 8:50:11 AM (No. 957674)
Toilet meet some money.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
red1066 10/26/2021 10:26:22 AM (No. 957777)
Maybe these people figure buy building with straw, they're depriving food for the farting animals that cause green house gases.
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Someone built a straw-walled house in my town years ago. Still there. It’s an old method in arid regions, up from Mexico I think.
The secret is, the straw bales aren’t stacked, they’re rammed. Then sealed tightly. It really is a method for dry areas and I don’t know how well it would work in wet areas. Probably not very good, but what do I know.
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Tend to agrèe with #14. I've designed straw bale houses and a school in AZ. But my larger projects were double wall adobe with a 4 inch airspace between walls. An adobe block/brick is 8x4x16...remember the menome, "women have legs" (width height length). A 20 inch thick wall assembly can bring the ambient temperature down from outside the walls at bond beam height without the benefit of a roof. I have yet to hear from the Earth Ship people outside of Santa Fe who built their houses from concrete-filled used tires.
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