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Gas stoves and water heaters face a climate
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Posted By: NorthernDog, 10/13/2021 7:18:22 PM

In 2019, Berkeley became the first city in the country to ban gas stoves and water heaters in all new construction in order to cut down greenhouse gas emissions that are causing climate change. Since then, dozens of others, including Seattle, San Francisco and New York, have followed suit with similar restrictions and President Biden has laid out an ambitious plan to help Americans ditch gas appliances and heaters in favor of electric ones. (Snip) “The gas that we use in stoves, water heaters and furnaces is a fossil fuel that causes climate change and harms our health,” Henchen told

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These people are N-U-T-S. We should be on our knees thanking God for a plentiful and accessible energy source like natural gas.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Come And Take It 10/13/2021 7:22:19 PM (No. 944664)
I personally plan to install an electric electricity generator that I can plug my electrical appliances into, and replace that evil NG one I have now. STUPID
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 10/13/2021 7:35:18 PM (No. 944677)
They are extremely efficient, converting nearly 100% of the energy in the gas to useful heat in water or food. The climate nazis are deranged, and have no facts on their side, just brute, totalitarian force.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: blueline 10/13/2021 7:44:05 PM (No. 944682)
Where does the electricity come from; magic fairies? And how many gas stoves or water heaters are required to equal the greenhouse gas emissions of the private jets landing in Davos every year? These duplicitous self-appointed "betters" can pound sand.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Nashville 10/13/2021 7:49:59 PM (No. 944687)
Heat pumps don’t work below about 35 degrees. My 50 gallon hot water heater costs about $27 per month for a family of 2 ( daughter grown and out of house ). We have a large jacuzzi tub my wife takes a soak in at least 3 times per week. Both furnaces are gas. All electric homes are not for me.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Venturer 10/13/2021 8:00:15 PM (No. 944701)
I like to see the flame when I cook so I can set the heat I want, I don't have to wait for it to warm up and when I turn it off it is cool immediately.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Daisymay 10/13/2021 8:04:52 PM (No. 944707)
Hopefully, none of their Plans will come to fruition before they lose Power! I just bought a new Electric Range (after my 20 year old Oven burst into flames one day). We have Gas Heat and I can tell you I would fight tooth and nail before giving it up. We had a Heat Pump to heat our home when we lived in the country in Tennessee and darn near froze to death in the winter. I never want to go back to that!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: columba 10/13/2021 8:06:55 PM (No. 944711)
We purchased a gas kitchen stove because gas was cheaper than electric.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: sw penn 10/13/2021 8:07:16 PM (No. 944712)
Have had gas and electric stoves. Gas stoves have a better "recovery time" than electric, in my experience. Whenever I have a choice, I prefer to cook like grandma, (and virtually every commercial kitchen in the world). Over flame.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: downnout 10/13/2021 8:19:55 PM (No. 944725)
I know it is mean of me but I am hoping for a cold winter.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Starboard_side 10/13/2021 8:21:24 PM (No. 944726)
They simply don't like the idea that you have to get the natural gasoline from out of the ground despite it being clean and efficient. Not to mention, very plentiful. Wonder if it's not just about trying to solve pollution, which it's mostly about IMO, but to get people on things that can be hacked, or controlled. I'll bet Kamala's sudden trip from DC to Palm Springs the other week expended more greenhouse gas than any chance in gas stoves and gas water heaters.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: seamusm 10/13/2021 8:47:08 PM (No. 944750)
I can't even imagine a professional chef working over an electric stove.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: JHHolliday 10/13/2021 8:52:55 PM (No. 944756)
I wish I had a NG stovetop. I had one in a rental house years ago. Wonderful to cook on since you have total control of the heat. Good, clean fuel too. These people are ideological morons and I wouldn’t let them wash my car. FJB and especially the incompetent fools pulling his strings.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: 3XALADY 10/13/2021 8:56:34 PM (No. 944761)
Is this crap ever going to stop?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: mc squared 10/13/2021 9:11:08 PM (No. 944771)
Didn't Calif electric companies just shut off power in order to fight new wild fires? 25,000 as I recall. Let's see, no generators and no cooking or hot water in the future.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: jimincalif 10/13/2021 10:54:34 PM (No. 944833)
I think it was middle school science where we learned energy is lost thru each conversion. Burn natural gas to make heat to generate electricity, 40-60% efficient at best, then send it out over long distance power lines thru various transformers, another 5% loss, then use the electricity to convert back to heat, at best 60% efficient. So maybe 70-75% cumulative loss. Or just burn the gas to heat your kettle directly and realize 50% efficiency. But facts no longer matter in our world.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: dickiedeeb 10/13/2021 11:09:52 PM (No. 944841)
When the endgame is reached and you are getting your 9th booster shot you finally realize it was never about a virus As you check in with the guards and return to your 150sqft cubicle awaiting the drone to deliver your dinner of bug gruel and nutritious weeds you will look out your barred window at the beautiful evening and realize it was never about the climate But it wont matter anyway you have already been sterilized So go down to the rec room and play ping pong with Comrade Parsons just remember to wipe the sweat off the bat handle
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Reply 17 - Posted by: doctorfixit 10/13/2021 11:46:35 PM (No. 944869)
" in order to cut down greenhouse gas emissions that are causing climate change" Big Liberal Lie Trifecta . There is no evidence of climate change, no evidence that burning natural as is the cause. and no evidence that not burning natural gas will stop alleged "climate change."
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 10/14/2021 2:28:07 AM (No. 944928)
Excellent points #15, but you overestimate the conversion efficiency of NG to electricity in a central power station. Upper limit with a gas turbine - steam combined cycle unit is about 42% and there are comparatively few of those being used. Normal steam boiler unit, expect about 33-35% efficiency, or throw away 2/3 of the energy in the NG to turn it into electricity. Or, burn the NG in your range top and get about 95+% of that heat into your food. Domestic water heating, similar, perhaps 90+% of heat goest to the water.
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