NYC will phase out Gifted and Talented program
New York Daily News,
by
Michael Elsen-Rooney
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
10/8/2021 10:23:14 AM
New York City officials are phasing out the controversial “Gifted and Talented” program for elementary school students, a massive change aimed at addressing racial disparities in the biggest school system in the country. The entry exam identifying students as “gifted” will be eliminated, officials said Friday. Under the old status quo, about 2,500 incoming kindergarteners per year passed the optional exam, going on to spend their elementary school years in separate classrooms and schools.(Snip)The overhaul of the gifted program comes after years of debate and criticism—much of it focused on the fact that white and Asian students made up around 80% of gifted classes despite representing
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Anti_democRAT 10/8/2021 10:25:46 AM (No. 938972)
Must not allow exceptional kids.
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Educate to the lowest common denominator, and then wonder why society is filled to overflowing with morons.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
wilarrbie 10/8/2021 10:31:50 AM (No. 938980)
Put 'em in the sausage grinder so they all come out the same. Exceptionalism is reserved for the elites alone.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Safari Man 10/8/2021 10:33:46 AM (No. 938982)
poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bldrrepub 10/8/2021 10:38:17 AM (No. 938990)
No matter what, there will always be kids that don't want to be in school and their "parents" could care less if their kids were in school. No amount of money, equity mumbo-jumbo, or removal of enhanced programs are going to change that.
Programs like these are some of the last ways underprivileged kids who want to be in school could work hard, get ahead, and get the heck out of the crushing poverty and despair they experience.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
MAGA Might 10/8/2021 10:43:26 AM (No. 938999)
Give everyone a participation trophy. Provide safe spaces so no one feels uncomfortable. And lower the bar for everyone so we can destroy our country. Yup, good plan.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
jalo1951 10/8/2021 10:45:10 AM (No. 939004)
So I guess it's time for certain racial groups to admit they are not smart enough, will never be smart enough, they are too lazy, and they really don't care. Or prove us wrong.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 10/8/2021 10:45:43 AM (No. 939005)
This is the same solution that the marxists applied in economics.The misery must be spread equitably.
If they were smart they wouldn't be effing
Marxists.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
msjena 10/8/2021 10:46:10 AM (No. 939006)
I kind of agree with this at the elementary school level. Kids shouldn't be labeled at at 6, based on a test. They also shouldn't be separated socially. In a mixed classroom, kids who need special help in, say, reading can be given time with a reading specialist. If it turns out there is a genius in the class, he or she can be skipped a grade or given enrichment. The goal at the lower elementary level is to give kids basic reading and arithmetic skills. The disparity is not so great at that age that the "smart" kids need to be separated.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Daisymay 10/8/2021 10:54:50 AM (No. 939019)
Should be easy enough to phase it back in when a new Mayor takes over. Just force him/her to make it one of the promises they make to get elected. I think it's important not to hold back gifted kids. They will go on to be the most productive Adults of their Generation! We need them! Too bad if the Black Kids can't keep up, a lot of White kids are not Gifted either!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Hermoine 10/8/2021 10:58:56 AM (No. 939023)
To paraphrase from The Incredibles...."When everyone is gifted, no one will be."
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Toby Ten Bears 10/8/2021 11:07:14 AM (No. 939031)
Equal stupidity under the law! Brilliant!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
mc squared 10/8/2021 11:16:56 AM (No. 939040)
But the grades and school proficiency will skyrocket. I suggest a passing grade in the neighborhood of 30%
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
planetgeo 10/8/2021 11:20:43 AM (No. 939042)
Yes, everywhere that Democrats rule, the Gifted and Talented programs will be replaced by Mandated Mediocrity programs so that Stupidity-Equity can be achieved.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
zoidberg 10/8/2021 11:23:16 AM (No. 939043)
They think "Harrison Bergeron" is an instruction manual.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Winstonsmith 10/8/2021 11:26:16 AM (No. 939047)
Typical of the socialist mentality. Better the equal distribution of mediocrity than the unequal distribution of excellence.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
dman 10/8/2021 11:31:13 AM (No. 939052)
To be replaced by the "Dumb and Dumber" program. /s
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
itsonlyme 10/8/2021 11:34:57 AM (No. 939058)
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Aintz dat ryte?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 10/8/2021 11:35:18 AM (No. 939059)
Asian Americans are the nightmare of lying communists.
They make a farce of the lies the commies peddle that blacks are held back because of racism. The vast difference in academic achievement between Asian kids and black kids is only partially because of raw intelligence - - but mostly due to initiative, drive, ambition, discipline, and caring intact families.
So how does taking gifted programs away from Asian kids make black kids any better off? Simple answer - - it doesn't!
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
f64 10/8/2021 11:37:57 AM (No. 939062)
Diana Moon Glampers says it's a good start.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
DVC 10/8/2021 11:38:37 AM (No. 939063)
Making sure to prevent any kids who are smart from getting a good education. Mediocre is their upper limit of allowable.
The young and future Ben Carsons of the inner city must be punished for being smart.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
bpl40 10/8/2021 11:57:41 AM (No. 939086)
Too many Indian kids who are good at math and English spelling.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
dst4life 10/8/2021 12:00:57 PM (No. 939088)
Why, of course, God-less NYC must phase out such programs. Gifts and talents come from the Almighty.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
hershey 10/8/2021 12:23:44 PM (No. 939110)
Great..continue to 'dumb down' our children...turn them into mindless slaves with your racist and liberal CRT bull crap...while Japanese kids use computers on the bus going to school...
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
LeeBertie 10/8/2021 12:23:48 PM (No. 939111)
It's the truth that gifted and talented children are born racist, and everybody knows that truth will overrule fact all 8 days a week.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 10/8/2021 12:30:25 PM (No. 939125)
This will be unfortunate.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
TJ54 10/8/2021 1:19:11 PM (No. 939170)
The snobs in New Yawk won’t like this
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
harleynyc 10/8/2021 2:05:01 PM (No. 939217)
He's expanding, and diluting quality education in the name of diversity. Yet minorities were over represented with 25% enrollment already. Well, there's a lot money in the new program flowing through his appointees hands, and this is a goodbye gift to them.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
gramma b 10/8/2021 2:14:18 PM (No. 939225)
This is real life “Harrison Bergeron.”
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Zeek Wolfe 10/8/2021 2:15:10 PM (No. 939228)
The 'average' Black person on the planet has an IQ below 85. The numbers in the developed world are a little better, 85-90. White people are above 95 and northeast Asians are slightly above that. New York City can end the 'gifted' programs now in place, but no matter, the numbers will remain the same. There are two things that cannot be openly discussed in an academic setting. They are the UFO (UAP) phenomena and the differences in intelligence between the races. At one time there was a third topic of non discussion, existence of pre-Clovis people in the Americas (a career buster) but that has now changed. UFOs are now somewhat allowed because of US Navy videos. Race and intelligence...nope, not yet.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/8/2021 2:28:35 PM (No. 939234)
That’s too bad. Had they had that when I was a kid, I and a number of others would not have completed full years in one semester, been sent to the office to correct papers, and generally been kept busy until they had to skip us a semester or a full grade because we were finishing the work too quickly.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 10/8/2021 2:38:28 PM (No. 939240)
Yes it will be there Dumb and dumber group to make sure no one is smarter than anyone else. Equality of stupidity for all.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Sistersuzey 10/8/2021 3:44:59 PM (No. 939301)
Two of my sons were in the the gifted program in elementary school. The district was sued for discrimination and they changed the requirements to allow more students in. My sons, as well as the others lost interest where as before they were quite engaged. We just added to what they lost at home with lot's of "projects". It's really too sad.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
NeverForget 10/8/2021 4:04:10 PM (No. 939308)
Keep in mind, friends, that the term "people of color" is a flexible one as applied to people of Asian descent.
In this case, Asian people are not "people of color" because it doesn't fit the narrative.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Peregrine 10/8/2021 4:46:52 PM (No. 939324)
Now New York schools will teach to the lowest common denominator. God forbid anyone should attempt to excel.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
edgar 10/8/2021 4:49:24 PM (No. 939326)
NYC is in a race with Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, LA, Portland, Seattle, and Austin to see who can become a third world s-hole the fastest.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
MDConservative 10/8/2021 5:02:25 PM (No. 939332)
And will those programs for “special needs” be treated likewise? Seems those bright kids have their own special needs. Mainstream them all!
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
lakerman1 10/8/2021 5:24:52 PM (No. 939342)
I speak from the perspective of a parent with four gifted children.
Perhaps the biggest challenge of parenting these children is one of socialization. Herding 4-5 year olds into a separate setting is counter-intuitive and counter-productive. They have to survive in a mostly non gifted world, and they have to learn social skills, cues, and not feel like laboratory animals
being subjected to an experiment.
NYC just might be doing the right thing, for the wrong reasons.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
KTWO 10/8/2021 7:34:22 PM (No. 939446)
Eliminating public schools seems necessary for true Equity - note the big E. But that would eliminate the jobs of thousands of teachers, bureaucrats, and administrators. Can't have that.
So a reasonable compromise might selectively ban the very top students. And figuring out exactly which students would create many new jobs within the school systems. More jobs, less excellence. a Win-Win.
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Who benefits from this? Are the Communist Chinese phasing out their gifted and talented programs? I don't think so. Are the Democrat politicians responsible for this sending their children to schools without gifted and talented programs? I don't think so either.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
mifla 10/9/2021 6:12:43 AM (No. 939684)
"You are too smart. The other kids don't like it. Just sit there and be bored while we cater to the slowest students."
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White and Asian kids who flourish in school make the bLACK and LatinX kids look bad. The solution is obvious.