TWA 800: 25 Years of
Deep State Deception
American Thinker,
by
Jack Cashill
Original Article
Posted By: Magnante,
7/14/2021 3:03:16 AM
On July 17, 1996, TWA Flight 800, a Paris-bound 747 out of JFK, blew up off the coast of Long Island. It seemed somehow fitting that James Kallstrom, the public face of the FBI investigation into the plane's destruction, would die two weeks before the 25th anniversary. As a patriot, a Vietnam vet, and an outspoken critic of all things Clinton, Kallstrom once held promise as the insider most likely to come clean. He never did. (snip) I can say with 100 percent confidence that missile fire destroyed TWA Flight 800. I can say with 95 percent confidence that the U.S. Navy fired those missiles.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/14/2021 3:22:50 AM (No. 845130)
The FBI only shows up to bury the evidence. The organization has more criminals than the mafia.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
chumley 7/14/2021 3:58:50 AM (No. 845137)
The big hole in the theory I see is that if a navy ship fired the missile, there would be potentially hundreds of witnesses to the firing on board that ship. Sailors will obey orders to remain silent, but only up to a point. Something this evil would have leaked out by now.
If it was downed by a missile, I would tend to suspect practicioners of that religion of peace.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
seamusm 7/14/2021 4:19:07 AM (No. 845138)
Now THIS is a case for reparations.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
sanspeur 7/14/2021 4:42:30 AM (No. 845140)
guess what Jack , The ny slimes just had a story , the pieces of Flight 800 are to be discarded now !! The ny slime writes the national transportation “safety” board says the pieces aren’t needed anymore .. Kallstrom is dead and with him died truth .. ???
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
5 handicap 7/14/2021 5:37:17 AM (No. 845152)
Evidently the clown Kallstrom wasn't the patriot the author claimed him to be....NO patriot would allow that lie to endure...No patriot, Kallstrom!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
JL80863 7/14/2021 5:38:03 AM (No. 845153)
The remains of the aircraft are to be shredded and melted down. This is happening just as new metal analysis techniques are becoming available such as neutron radiography. The technique is able to detect trace amounts of substances not visible to the naked eye and presumably other analytical processes. A coincidence? I think not.
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I'll leave motive & means for others for the moment but I will say that the Official Story (TM) was pathetic. The usual government work product that reflected arrogance, laziness, magical thinking and the usual big assist from corrupt media.
If you recall, it involved a fatuous claim about static electricity generating a spark that ignited fuel or other combustibles within the fuselage. An embarrassingly amateurish, cartoony video was produced (no doubt at great cost) to sell this load of codswallop.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 7/14/2021 6:26:12 AM (No. 845186)
Dems only do convenient and helpful disasters. Progressivism is a religion and requires unquestionable faith in the impossible. No need to consider the ideas or opinions of heathens and heretics.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
GO3 7/14/2021 6:28:14 AM (No. 845187)
Agree #2. Not a Navy missile.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
frew 7/14/2021 6:37:32 AM (No. 845192)
Another stupid conspiracy theory.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
NancyD 7/14/2021 6:43:28 AM (No. 845199)
I think it was shot down by terrorists using a surface to air missile. Too many people saw it and they all saw the same thing. The FBI said it was a figment of their imagination.
Watch EPIX documentary on TWA800 It's the last true journalism reported by a liberal. They have many interviews by the people who live along the coast of NY. They all say the same thing.
In the documentary, they show and are outraged by the fact that several pieces of the plane that proved it was shot down (not a center fuel tank explosion) were stolen from the hanger. Documentation vanished at well. It was a cover up and the media just went along with it. WATCH the doc on EPIX
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Just 25 short years ago we naively trusted the media, the FBI and the CIA.
What a difference it makes to hear the facts and the witnesses, now that we understand all too well the motivation and methods of the media, the FBI and the CIA.
As is the case with the vote count fraud, there were many ethical eyewitnesses that took great risk to tell what they saw. But the deep state overwhelmed them with their agenda. Neither of these frauds could have been successful without the willing assistance of the "free press".
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
web 7/14/2021 6:57:27 AM (No. 845206)
What is amazing to me is that after only several years, the clintons apparently already had enough blackmail material on FBI officials and other politicians to bend them all to their will. Or they found enough crooked people to go along and get along, and make a lot of money in the meanwhile, such as Gorelick. Covering up the missile attack on Flight 800 was a purely political calculation on clintons part to get elected. What it worth it. Certainly not to us. Guess the clintons perfected their murder and blackmail techniques back in Arkansas before they even got to Washington.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 7/14/2021 6:59:46 AM (No. 845207)
Pierre Salinger (JFK spox) went to the mat swearing it was a missile but got big-footed by the swamp denizens.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Standlow 7/14/2021 7:17:38 AM (No. 845230)
I am privileged to have met and become acquainted with Jack Cashill. He is a man of utter probity and intelligence. This is an issue which has personal and deep meaning for him, and his thoughts deserve careful thought. It's late in the game, but never too late for the truth.
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James Kallstrom was clearly involved in the coverup. There is no excusing him. There were many eye witnesses who saw a missile and even books written about the scam. And I also doubt that it was a Navy missile. Clinton was running for re-election at the time and I think they covered up a terrorist attack.
I'm glad to see some truth finally coming out though. And I think the conspiracy theorists about 911 may be right also. Maybe God is beginning to reveal things.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 7/14/2021 8:15:40 AM (No. 845301)
My understanding has always been that a surface to air missile brought the plane down. It was also revealed at the time that the US military was conducting an exercise off shore. So with the revelation that a missile was fired at the plane, the question is why. Was the Navy ship's captain a jihadist? Did the Navy simply screw up and fire the missile by mistake? Arkancide? In any case, the coverup was for the purpose of protecting BJ to make sure he got re-elected. Had the federal agencies and the slimes done their jobs properly, BJ would have been impeached and forced to resign before the November 1996 election and we may have had a President Dole.
The Navy seaman who fired the missile upon orders from his captain knows. Who is he and where is he? Yes, the deep state at work here.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
PostAway 7/14/2021 8:17:02 AM (No. 845302)
I am an agnostic about the government explanation about Flight 800 for four reasons:
1.) previously trusted government agencies like the FBI, NSA and CIA have been corrupted
2.) Flight 800 crashed during the thoroughly corrupt Clinton administration
3.) Eyewitnesses, some of whom were extremely reliable, described what looked to them to be the descent of an object towards the jet immediately before its explosion
4.) catastrophic passenger jet crashes prior to 9/11 were rare but somewhat familiar occurrences in the U.S. or with U.S. carriers. Post 9/11 they seem to me to be almost nonexistent in this country which has me wondering if we were lied to all along about crashes with the exception of the Lockerbie crash.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
udanja99 7/14/2021 8:18:48 AM (No. 845304)
Completely agree with #’s 2, 9 and 11.
The big coverup was done because Clinton was in the middle of running for re-election and he couldn’t have a terrorist attack on his hands.
I usually agree with Cashill on everything but he’s wrong about the Navy missile story.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
PostAway 7/14/2021 8:18:55 AM (No. 845305)
In the above post I meant to say “ascent” rather than “descent” of an object
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
udanja99 7/14/2021 8:30:52 AM (No. 845315)
I just re-read the article thinking that I had missed something. It wasn’t me but something was missing - where is Cashill’s proof that it was a Navy missile. He provides nothing to back up that 95% certain theory. He mentions is but never follow through at all.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 7/14/2021 8:43:28 AM (No. 845328)
Read the Nelson DeMille novel Night Flight, I think. The character John Corey finds a video of a rocket streaking at the plane!
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/14/2021 9:05:54 AM (No. 845358)
Democrats just want the evidence of their evil to go away. Same with the 9/11 debris. Relegate to history so people forget WHO was responsible, leaving only vague memories that something bad happened - that they can then assign where they like.
This is why they stopped teaching Civics and history. The informed are armored against their lies and their hate with facts, names and places to refute them.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
starboard 7/14/2021 9:32:30 AM (No. 845386)
I believe flight 800 was shut down by a missile. There are so many credible eye witnesses who saw the whole thing. My question is what was the motive to do it blatantly in Long Island sound.. Why? What was the reason? Who was on board?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/14/2021 9:37:12 AM (No. 845395)
I can see why Cashill has this theory. Having terrorist smuggling in and assembling the equipment for a surface to air missile is a bit much. And no one ever saw such equipment.
The navy was "right there" conveniently off shore for Washington Swamp critters to access for photo ops and for their military industrial complex donors to reach potential test platforms.
But I imagine, this close to an election, the Clinton machine was pushing for various ways they could boost support for Slick Willie. Say reveal a new amazing surface to air missile (that won't really ready yet) to show how strong he was. As a new system, only the private company's test personnel would have access to the launch control. Sailor's on a military ship may be aware of action that directly involves them, but only the top officers have the whole picture.
The plane goes down, but only the officers and the missile techs know it. If they can't trust them to shut up, they get disappeared, with nice little stories of accidents to explain it. Clinton's were infamous for that kind of thing.
Keep the rest of the sailors on board and out of the way, filtering just enough news media "debunking" the unfortunate loss of the airline, and the rest of the crew is primed to accept the official version, whatever it is.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 7/14/2021 9:45:35 AM (No. 845407)
Poster 11, ''The FBI said it was a figment of their imagination.'' I say the FBI is a figment of our national imagination. Maybe the organization should be called office of Federal Body Interment.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
cactusmike 7/14/2021 9:47:12 AM (No. 845408)
I’ll never understand how Rush became such a supporter of Kallstrom. For years. Just shows how good they are at pilling the wool over their eyes.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Mofongo 7/14/2021 9:48:39 AM (No. 845412)
Another reason the Intelligence Community was so desperate to sandbag Trump, who isn’t part of their club.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Marzon 7/14/2021 10:05:55 AM (No. 845436)
Seems to me if it was Islamic terrorists they would have publicly taken credit for it.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/14/2021 10:36:06 AM (No. 845481)
Further reading from Cmdr.William S. Donaldson, III - USN, Ret.- Aviation Mishap Analyst
http://twa800.com/sanders/ceo.htm
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/14/2021 10:43:55 AM (No. 845488)
Addendum to my previous post. Sorry.
Man charged with smuggling missile:
NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- A British citizen accused of smuggling a shoulder-launched surface-to-air missile into the United States for use in a terrorist attack against a U.S. commercial airliner was charged Wednesday in federal court./snip/
According to federal prosecutors, the international arms dealer, who boasted of sales to terrorist groups, thought he had struck a deal to sell a missile to a Somali group looking to launch a "jihad" against a U.S. plane.
https://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/13/missile.sting/index.html
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
jimkata 7/14/2021 10:50:29 AM (No. 845496)
Lockheed, Raytheon and others were involved in a fleet qualification tests at that time off the coast.
I worked at Raytheon.
The rumor at the time at work was the Lockheed AEGIS system locked onto the jet instead of the drone and shot it down. Take it for what its worth.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
DVC 7/14/2021 11:00:16 AM (No. 845506)
The "fuel tank exploded" finding as the cause of the crash is entirely impossible. When a closed fuel tank has any significant amount of liquid fuel in it, the atmosphere in the tank contains more fuel vapors than the maximum 'rich limit', and this absolutely prevents ignition.
The best example is your auto gas tank. Almost all modern automotive fuel tanks use an internal electric fuel pump, and all have an electric fuel level sending unit. Both are capable of generation sparks, either in normal operation or in the case of a malfunction. Have you ever heard of even a single case of an undamaged fuel tank exploding on a modern auto? Except in an accident when the tank is ripped open, the fuel air mixture is too rich to ignite. The reason you have never heard of it, is because it is impossible, can't happen.
The fuel-air mixture in a closed fuel tank has more fuel in it than can be ignited. This concept may sound ridiculous, but I assure you, it is not. Anyone who starts small engines, or is old enough to remember cars with manual chokes used for starting will be familiar with failures to start which are caused by "flooding"....too much fuel, too rich to ignite. The engine has a spark plug firing in each cylinder, but no ignition occurs, the engine can't start until more air is supplied. In a closed fuel tank, more air is never supplied. So you are safe, your car won't explode unless the fuel tank is ripped open in a crash.
I am absolutely certain that the CIA's 'exploding fuel tank' is wrong, and they know it is wrong. And too many expert and non-expert eye witnesses clearly saw a missile trail rise up and strike the aircraft. Some witnesses were pilots who had fired military missiles in air combat and were certain what they saw.
Like Jack, I think there is a high probability that the launch was a tragic error on board a USN guided missile cruiser. But for certain, the fuel tank didn't explode until it was ripped open and a whole lot more air was added to the fuel. This is the first time that I became aware that the FBI and CIA were corrupt, and criminal, working in the service of the Dems, not the American people. Things have gone steadily downhill since then.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Zigrid 7/14/2021 11:06:04 AM (No. 845510)
This situation was never clear to me... to many on shore residents said they saw the missile shoot the plane out of the sky...and Kallstrom was the flunky that went to the cameras and told lies... I always felt Clinton needed a distraction of some kind and this flight was it.... having the Federal Bureau of Intimidation investigate was useless... but served the purpose of the Deep Soros State...soros/clintons. are the dangerous deep state in DC... and remember crooked hillary's darling daughter is married into the soros family... my thinking is soros' dreams of world domination are rooted in his offsprings...
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
coldoc 7/14/2021 11:25:17 AM (No. 845526)
It was always an obvious lie. Kerosene (jet-a) doesnt explode.
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"At the instant the smoke trail ended at the aircraft's right wing, she heard a loud sharp noise which sounded like a firecracker had just exploded at her feet."
The plane was at an altitude of 13,000+ feet at the time of the explosion, the sound of which would have taken over 10 seconds to reach Witness 73. And it wouldn't have sounded like a firecracker, so that observation was either made up by the witness or whoever altered her testimony.
Folks, an Aegis cruiser test-firing a Standard missile is no small event. It involves weeks of preparation and planning and is well documented, including all the telemetry data for the shot which is then thoroughly analyzed. Yes, USS Vincennes did bring down an Iran Air A300 but USS Normandy did not bring down a TWA 747. This was 1996 and there were still some leftover Stingers available to the bad guys following the Russian withdrawal from Afghanistan. One of them found its way to Long Island Sound, securely mounted (to give it additional range) on a boat which then quickly scurried away. End of story, because anything beyond that would have ended the President's re-election chances. I would never have believed that at the time but we're all more aware these days of the power and corruption of our government.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Geoman 7/14/2021 12:47:43 PM (No. 845648)
Re: #6 - By the summer of 1996, the FAA had by working with industry since the 1988 Pan Am 103 bombing over Lockerbie, developed for deployment to US airports very advanced explosive trace detection technologies, both nuclear physics based and chemistry based, such as thermal neutron analysis (TNA), computed tomography (CT), nuclear quadrupole resonance (NQR), ion mobility spectroscopy (IMS), gas chromatography (GC), and chemilunimescence (CL). A Thermedics GC/CL chemical trace detection unit was sent to NY to aid in explosives detection on pieces of the aircraft as they were recovered from the Long Island Sound but the positive hits taken from parts of the fuselage were explained away as artifacts from the live K9 training that had occurred on the aircraft in the weeks prior to the crash. The key fact that has always been most troubling is that the Clinton Administration downgraded the FAA and NTSB as lead investigators with the FBI and CIA as the lead investigative bodies, and it was the CIA who created the amateurish cartoon animating the cover story of the fuel tank explosion. That wasn't the beginning of the democrats narrative-based form of governance (it is because we say it is) but it enshrined it as being effective, so long as the mainstream TV media went along with it.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Christopher L 7/14/2021 12:51:25 PM (No. 845653)
I agree with others here that the missile was not fired by the US Navy. Islamic terrorism well known to the Clinton era intelligence agencies. That information was suppressed/ignored to keep it from becoming an election issue. Don’t forget that OKC bombing co-conspirator, Terry Nichols spent much time, documented by the same Clinton era intelligence agencies, hobnobing with some really nasty islamic terrorists in the Philippines. Another story that went down Winston Smith’s memory hole.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/14/2021 1:04:51 PM (No. 845675)
This happened back in the day when most people trusted the government and the Clintons were nothing but late-night comedy material. I remember when the people who spotted the missile trail were dismissed and the exploding fuel tank theory due to internal friction of the fuel was not believed at all. Nobody took this investigation any further because they were ordered not to. I did not know that this much information existed. Now I know why.
It absolutely had to be the Navy because it was not possible for ships or subs of any other country to get that close to our coast. We could measure the movements of crabs and lobster on the ocean floor, even back then.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/14/2021 1:35:30 PM (No. 845715)
Stingers were no doubt available from Afghanistan after they destroyed most of Russia's helicopters with them and our "friends" in other countries have a bad habit of stealing our leftover weapons because we are stupid enough to leave them when we surrender - er, end wars and go home.
If flight 800 was indeed flying at 13,000 feet, the performance specifications of the Stinger are as follows: The FIM-92’s stated range is anything up to 4,800m and can engage low altitude threats at any height up to 3,800m (12,467’) so the plane was clearly above a Stinger's range. Since the missile was reported to be flying up at a 45 degree angle, that would make the range necessary to reach Flight 800 about 16,000 ft. Not a Stinger.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
thelmalou 7/14/2021 1:44:28 PM (No. 845724)
A second cousin was an engineer for Boeing. He and his fellow engineers were convinced that the official explanation was hogwash, and that the plane was brought down by an explosion of some sort (missile/bomb/whatever).
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Re "Not a Stinger.": Supposedly, the missile's range can be increased by hard-mounting it, giving it a higher initial velocity than when firing from the shoulder.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
Boni 7/14/2021 8:22:31 PM (No. 846063)
US Navy was practicing in the area of the explosion at the time. Sailors did speak up at the time. So did Pierre Salinger, who was vilified and called a conspiracy theorist.
The Deep State has no problem threatening military members' retirement or punishment for divulging classified information. "...the test firing of a new generation Navy missile from the submarine USS Seawolf accidentally struck TWA flight 800 en route from New York to Paris on July 17, 1996. According to the former Navy official, the missile test was so important for the Clinton administration, it was being shown live on a Navy closed-circuit television feed at the White House."
" Three other submarines participating in GLOBAL YANKEE '96 were also ordered out of the area. They were the USS Albuquerque, the USS Augusta, and the USS Trepang. The FBI accounted for all missiles aboard the three submarines but not those on board the Seawolf,"
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
JackBurton 7/15/2021 9:36:32 AM (No. 846518)
To poster #2... FTA: "We need to talk," Stacy told Sanders. And so began a relationship that would end with James and Elizabeth being convicted of conspiracy in a federal court. Elizabeth's crime? Introducing her husband to her friend—it went no deeper than that. James's crime? Reporting that the U.S. Navy had inadvertently shot down TWA 800—it went no deeper than that. Meeting Elizabeth and hearing her story was what opened my eyes. A government that arrested and tried Elizabeth could arrest my wife, my sister, my daughter.
Things that make you go 'Hmmmm'.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
JackBurton 7/15/2021 9:47:29 AM (No. 846535)
Further info: I was a broker at the time of this event with a client who worked on airplanes at a local airport. The official explanation was a stressed wire that shorted out in a fuel tank... as I recall at the time. He pointed out that whenever there was a mechanical problem involving a part... something that would need to be replaced... ALL planes of that make/model would be grounded worldwide until the part was replaced and certified. He had seen that done regarding a door hinge.
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It was NOT done for the planes of the TWA 800 type.
I guess that made him a conspiracy theorist.
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