Three minutes to prison
American Thinker,
by
Nile McAdams
Original Article
Posted By: Magnante,
5/14/2021 9:10:55 AM
Here are some facts you may not have known. (snip) Floyd died of a heart attack about two and a half minutes before the ambulance arrived. Had the ambulance arrived three minutes earlier, would Officer Chauvin have been charged with murder? Had Mr. Floyd not battled officers, even while handcuffed and on the ground, would his heart attack have happened three minutes later than it did?
Had Officer Chauvin not been distracted by the crowd who was taunting him, or by the two rookie officers who were observing, would Officer Chauvin have been more aware of how long he had been kneeling on Mr. Floyd
Reply 1 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 5/14/2021 9:45:13 AM (No. 785296)
This is so sad. One of the Ten Commandments "do not bear false witness against your neighbor" seems to come to mind for me right now. How is it that we can't sue government and, yet, police officers who work for the government can be sued or processed criminally?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
MDConservative 5/14/2021 10:02:44 AM (No. 785313)
Cuff him and stuff him...done. Then Floyd would have perhaps died in custody, and here comes Freddie Gray redux. Tough to be The Community's poster boy for police uncaringness/brutality, with the white cop's knee across Floyd's "throat" while he's claiming "I can't breathe." And all that over a phony $20 bill and some smokes. In retrospect, was it worth it? Let's not forget that Freddie was arrested at the demand of his local council member, who later happened to be Freddie's greatest defender, and husband of the Baltimore State's Attorney who prosecuted the cops. Every stop in The Community has the potential to become a cause celebre in a flash. Cops, especially white cops should know that by now. Remember Ferguson.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
bpl40 5/14/2021 10:14:56 AM (No. 785325)
Far more than George Floyd, who was a violent, drug addled criminal, the answer to the question "Who killed Ashli Babbitt?" is relevant to the rule of law in this country.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
lakerman1 5/14/2021 10:24:31 AM (No. 785337)
The trial judge may have limited Chauvin's attorney in introducing training information. That, if true, should form the basis of appeal.
As an arbitrator, I considered training manuals/protocol to prevail, when the officer was disciplined. If an officer follows the rules, there is no basis for discipline.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
stablemoney 5/14/2021 10:44:06 AM (No. 785359)
Chauvin did nothing wrong, only did his job. The judge, jury, and prosecution should be put in jail for this. This is nothing but a political persecution. The verdict will be overturned, which is why the prosecution is rushing to bring new charges. The leftist prosecutors know no depth of wrong they won't stoop to. Everyone of them should have their law licenses lifted for failure to uphold the oath to objectively uphold the law, not use it as a weapon for you ideology.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
DVC 5/14/2021 11:33:48 AM (No. 785423)
A good review, but still makes the erroneous connection between the heart attack and drug overdose which killed Floyd and the knee on the back and shoulder, acting as if it were somehow the cause. It was NOT the cause, not at all.
Floyd killed Floyd. The officers did NOTHING to exacerbate the trajectory of death that Floyd had created for himself. In fact, it seems likely that had the officers not roused Floyd from his semiconscious stupor behind the wheel of the car, he would have slipped into death SOONER sitting there semiconcious, than he did after being wakened and getting him up and walking around.
It's a real shame that the officers weren't delayed by 10 or 15 minutes with another call, and Floyd could have continued his path to Hell on his own and not harmed all those around him in one final antisocial, violent disaster that he wrought.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Heraclitus 5/14/2021 12:49:58 PM (No. 785547)
No matter how many training tools or training are available, nothing will make up for a lack of common sense. It's so simple, and yet so profound. I suspect most of us screamed at the television STOPPPP! as Chauvin stood with his knee on neck area with that silly smirk (it looked like a smirk) on his face, while people begged him to stop, with Floyd saying "I can't breathe" which he had been complaining about in the police vehicle, and elsewhere. Common sense should have told Chauvin that such pressure wasn't called for (that's what it looks like, Floyd is on hot pavement on his belly (-- could any of us managed to breathe like that?) and the man was handcuffed behind his back, clearly in medical distress, demon drugs it turned out, and there were four experienced officers on the scene who would have spotted the signs, and should have made sure to change tactics.
With passions inflamed, radicals, lawless people of violence, are always on the hunt for some incident with which to ignite their dream of total societal conflagration, common sense would have, could have, restrained Chauvin if in the crisis moment had he stopped and thought and listened. This is how it LOOKS to us civilians who were screaming STOPPPP, who have been trying to hear the facts, wanting the Truth to be known. We found out later that Floyd was flying high and about to crash. Those experienced officers probably knew. Three were telling Chauvin to stop. Chauvin for some reason ignored the shouts, the writhing man under his knee, and shut out that "still, small voice" of common sense that said, Stop now! all hell is breaking loose. The rest is, as they say, history.
I wonder how the trial would have gone if Chauvin had take The Stand in his own defense.
Employing common sense MAY have saved the day, at least this is how it looks from my perspective as an observer just trying to "save the phenomena" which might serve as an anchor, while our Ship of State is rocking violently in the tempestuous seas, the rudder is snapped and now the masts.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
mc squared 5/14/2021 1:13:15 PM (No. 785589)
Related to the Chauvin issue: Last week in FL, a black man stole a police car and lead them on a chase up I-95 through 2 counties. The attached link shows a video from the helicopter as the 'suspect' crashes, and while surrounded by dozens of cops, STEALS ANOTHER COP CAR and takes it up I-95 again. ( left side of screen)
At about 2:20 you can see an officer at the open door with the suspect in the seat - but did NOT shoot him. Fortunately, no one was hurt in the 50 mile chase, but allowing the maniac to take off again was probably the cop's only choice, lest he be charged with murder.
https://lcvalley.dailyfly.com/Home/ArtMID/1352/ArticleID/59390/Florida-Man-Steals-Two-Police-Cars-During-Chase
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 5/14/2021 1:22:21 PM (No. 785605)
Put down the Kool-Aid, #7. You've apparently already had too much.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
bighambone 5/14/2021 3:07:51 PM (No. 785719)
Who actually knows the exact moment that Floyd passed the point of no return in losing his life? For all anyone knows that could have occurred a minute after Chauvin pinned him to the ground. Remember nothing matters after that particular moment, when it comes to to the allegation that Chauvin killed Floyd, because after that moment Chauvin was pinning down a dead man even though bodily reflexes were still winding down.
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