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The cult of the vaccine

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Posted By: Harlowe, 3/25/2021 10:26:03 AM

Close your eyes and think back to a time in which you, your kids, or any other loved one received a vaccine.(Snip)People are being misled into believing they're virtuous and brave for taking a highly experimental vaccine that was hastily conceived and is the first mRNA vaccine ever distributed. We don't know what negative effects the vaccine will have on our bodies. We don't know if there will be side-effects or the possibility of death later on.(Snip)Ask yourself this: if the vaccine is truly normal, safe, and effective, would they really have to do all that they're doing to convince us?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: stablemoney 3/25/2021 10:58:55 AM (No. 734729)
It is not a vaccine. People from my family, and at work, are urging me to get the vaccine, because they have gotten it, and want their decision validated. I have asked how politicians and doctors could be replacing the family doctor with generalized prescriptions, no exam, no family histories. Amazing. Every person is different. Every drug manufacturer has lawsuits pending for those generalizations that do not meet someone's characteristics and situation, and they died. Some are dying from this vaccine. What if you are one with a situation that you suspect you are at high risk of being one of the latter? I really resent people getting into my personal business. People today do not seem to believe there is anything that is our personal business any longer. We are all supposed to be happy communists now, all decisions collective, all burdens collective. Yet, the consequences seem to be narrower, and personal. Cost shifting is pervasive. Rights are individual responsibility, costs are collective responsibility. It's a bad deal, and I am not accepting it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 3/25/2021 11:05:32 AM (No. 734736)
I might have been tempted to get vaccinated if I could ditch the masks, but now that we've been told we still have to wear masks, I don't see much benefit, especially as we're approaching herd immunity between the vaccinated and the recovered with natural immunity.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bad-hair 3/25/2021 11:13:13 AM (No. 734748)
Pretty simple really. If you're over 50 get vaxed. If you're under 50 and not sick do whatever you want to. Just take off the stupid masks.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Corndoggies 3/25/2021 11:22:04 AM (No. 734764)
I have some friends and family that are very conservative and agree the election was stolen but a lot of them are lining up for those stupid vaccines. I don’t t get it. Hubs and I have been surrounded with family members who have had it and we joke we’re immune. We see no reason to be lab rats.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: IowaDad 3/25/2021 11:23:18 AM (No. 734767)
Really silly article! Everything i life has risks -- even not getting out of bed. The risk benefit ratio for COVID vaccines is easily calculated from published clinical trails, e.g. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577?query=featured_home and show that the vaccines are highly effective, with no serious safety concerns. So -- read the truth and decide for yourself
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Reply 6 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 3/25/2021 11:23:33 AM (No. 734768)
If the vaccines are truly vaccines, like the smallpox vaccine, then there should be immunity for life from the Wuhan Virus. And like the smallpox vaccines, the measles vaccines, the polio vaccines, there should not be a requirement for masking forever. Or are the Pfizers, Modernas, Johnson & Johnsons just like an annual flu shot? Which is the case Dr. Fauci, CDC, NIH? Level with us, or is this just a way to control the herd. My vote is for the latter.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Maggie2u 3/25/2021 11:34:10 AM (No. 734787)
Read this a few weeks ago....A vaccine so safe we have to be threatened to get it, from a disease so deadly we have to be tested to see if we have it. Poster #1, all you have to say to those pressuring you is that you cannot, in good conscience get the vaccination until every single minority has taken it or the chance to take it first, otherwise you would be flaunting your White privilege and that would be racist.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: jalo1951 3/25/2021 11:50:48 AM (No. 734812)
It's available. Your choice to partake or not. It's called freedom. That is what they don't comprehend.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Sanddollar 3/25/2021 11:54:14 AM (No. 734817)
I had my second shot and I have had no problems. I am not worried at all about this vaccine. I agree that people should have the freedom to decide about having it. Those that don't may not be able to travel internationally.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: msjena 3/25/2021 12:04:26 PM (No. 734827)
People do have the freedom to decide whether to be vaccinated. At least so far...
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Reply 11 - Posted by: TexaTucky 3/25/2021 12:18:42 PM (No. 734848)
I think in terms of why do a thing instead of why NOT do a thing. There's no compelling evidence to convince me that I need to take this vaccine since I'm not in a high risk group. One young buck at work yesterday virtue signaled that he's getting vaccinated not for himself, but to prevent others from getting sick if he's a carrier. Not compelling. That's on them. Those at high risk should either stay in their bunker, wear a mask or two, and/or get their own vaccine. This is a decision for the individual, not the collective.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rather Read 3/25/2021 12:19:21 PM (No. 734850)
I'm 70 I got the first shot and will get the second one next week, then off goes the mask. I don't care what Dr. Faux says.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: lynngirl122 3/25/2021 12:27:07 PM (No. 734855)
Nine out of ten of my birthday cards: Happy Birthday DID YOU GET THE VACCINE?? What the!!?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Citoyen 3/25/2021 12:41:47 PM (No. 734877)
I got the second Pfizer vaccine two days ago. I pay as little attention to the anti-vaccine hysterics as I do to the virus hysterics. I couldn’t care less that some people don’t want to take it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: lefthanddan 3/25/2021 12:45:02 PM (No. 734881)
I like it #7. I was positive in October. Had a day when I couldn’t taste a thing. That was the extent of it for me. Healthy, living the good life, 65 year old. My body... My choice.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: deerejon 3/25/2021 12:45:21 PM (No. 734882)
I have been reading in my local paper about these so called Breakthrough covid cases.there seems to have been quite a few cases. It is where people have been fully Vaccinated with both shots with between 14 days to 30 days since there last shot and they are still being tested Postive for covid 19. What is the point of the Vaccine and some people still get the covid.Makes no sense to me.I guess you have to wear a mask and social distance for the rest of your life...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: KatieJo 3/25/2021 1:12:48 PM (No. 734898)
#5, the study you reference was funded by Pfizer-BioNTech. It is not approved by the FDA and the manufacturers are not liable for any harm done by the vaccine. Too many red flags for me, not to mention that they worked for 10 years on a SARS vaccine and were not able to come up with one.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Harlowe 3/25/2021 1:24:49 PM (No. 734902)
#5~ “Really silly article! Everything in life has risks...” / The article is not silly, it is an article of substance, a reality check. While there may be some for whom the vaccine poses no serious safety concerns that are immediately visible, the long-term effects may not be known for months or years; some medical professionals anticipate seeing side-effects three to six months after individuals have received the “vaccine” which, according to the term being used to describe the injection, is not a vaccine but an “experimental human genome altering mRNA injection.” According to an article published March 12, 2021 (Bombshell: Moderna Chief Medical Officer Admits mRNA Alters DNA – Written by Suzanne Hamner), Tal Zaks, Chief Medical Officer of Moderna, Inc. “...confirms mRNA injection for COVID-19 can change your genetic code or DNA.” In response to the question, “what causes the cells/body to produce needed enzymes/proteins?” the answer given by Dr. Zaks is, “the genetic code or DNA.” According to the article, “mRNA has to alter a genetic code or the DNA for the body to produce the proteins of COVID-19 for the body to mount an immune response.” As written, “Out of the words of Tal Zaks of Moderna, mRNA can alter the human genome.” Based on the article, Dr. Zaks said, “the mRNA would tell the cells to ‘code’ for the protein of the ‘virus.’ This ‘viral protein’ is foreign to the body. The individual’s body is making a foreign protein the immune system is to attack. When the body makes a protein the immune system then attacks, your immune system is attacking a protein your body is making, meaning what is occurring in an ‘auto-immune response’ or ‘auto-immune disease.’” “Zaks talks about turning this system on; however, there is no way to turn it off. When do the cells know to stop making this ‘viral protein’? The cells don’t; therefore, this continues for the duration.”
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Reply 19 - Posted by: rikkitikki 3/25/2021 1:40:02 PM (No. 734910)
I think I'll wait until the 25 to 30% of physicians refusing to be vaccinated due to its trial status have gotten on board.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 3/25/2021 3:28:15 PM (No. 734999)
FTA: "...a highly experimental vaccine that was hastily conceived and is the first mRNA vaccine ever distributed." Absolutely factual. It may well prove to be OK, but I am not interested in being a human guinea pig on this stuff. NEVER before used as a vaccine, and all the lab animals died in previous testing to try to use mRNA for a vaccine. Not me.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 3/25/2021 3:30:11 PM (No. 735003)
My wife and I are in our 70s, do not plan on getting this vaccination. We have gotten vaccinated (with a normal vaccine) for the annual flu every year for decades, and pneumonia vaccinations, shingles vaccinations, lots of stuff. NOT any kind of anti-vaxxer. But this stuff is way, way different and IMO too untested a concept for me to trust at this point.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: vinegrower 3/25/2021 5:21:08 PM (No. 735101)
I am not anti vaccine. I get flu shots, have had pneumonia shot, shingles vaccine etc. But this is not a properly tested vaccine. It should be studied for at least 2 yrs if not 5 yrs. It is considered an experimental drug by the FDA. If I were dying of cancer and my Dr said there was nothing else they could do but they had an experimental drug that had only been tested for a few weeks but had promise I would say "bring it on." But not for something that I have a 98% chance of surviving.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: udanja99 3/25/2021 5:42:13 PM (No. 735123)
Never had a flu shot. Never getting this “vaccine”. Why would I trust a “vaccine” which was developed in 6 months when there STILL is no vaccine for AIDS or the common cold, both of which are viruses?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: anonymous 3/25/2021 7:29:10 PM (No. 735208)
If the immune system of a healthy human being can adequately handle Covid-19, what is the great urgency for receiving the vaccine? I'm not against people having the vaccine but I suspect that financial interests are driving those who are pushing the notion that the vaccine must be administered to everybody.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: rsgonner 4/4/2021 9:11:41 AM (No. 744374)
There is this little thing called "Informed Consent". I have been a licensed physician since 1981 and a surgeon. I am quite familiar with this concept. It requires physicians to discuss the risks, benefits and alternatives of any proposed treatment. COVID-19 is the only disease in which that is not only not required, but actually discouraged. This is what is in the official Pfizer package insert concerning their vaccine: INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO VACCINE RECIPIENTS/CAREGIVERS As the vaccination provider, you must communicate to the recipient or their caregiver, information consistent with the “Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers” (and provide a copy or direct the individual to the website www.cvdvaccine.com to obtain the Fact Sheet) prior to the individual receiving each dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, including: • FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, which is not an FDA-approved vaccine. • The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. • The significant known and potential risks and benefits of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and the extent to which such risks and benefits are unknown. • Information about available alternative vaccines and the risks and benefits of those alternatives. The simple fact is that this is NOT an approved drug. "Emergency Use Authorization" is not the same as "approval". It is predicated on the condition that there is NO AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE. See: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization. This is why the alternative multiagent treatments that have been so successful in real life outside the US and "developed" countries ( https://c19hcq.com/) have been demonized. If an effective $20 off-patent 50 year old drug was known to be effective, no "Emergency Use Authorization" for the billion dollar vaccines. As to Fauci's vaunted need for a RCT, Remdesivir FAILED it RCT but is still on the NIH's list of recommended treatments for hospitalized patients: https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/ Why is that? Why does Fauci's organization refuse to allow the use of approved and effective drugs for early outpatient treatment of COVID-19 because they have not had an RCT, but recommend Remdesivir which actually failed its RCT. Is this logical? Is this "following the science"? Of course not.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: franq 4/4/2021 9:28:51 AM (No. 744397)
Thank you, #25. Your words carry great weight.
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Posted by mc squared 4/3/2021 12:51:25 PM Post Reply
As we learned Friday, it doesn’t seem that the two teenage girls who carjacked Uber Eats driver Mohammad Anwar will face harsh punishment for their crimes, even though the older girl could probably be charged as an adult and the younger girl is a suspect in a January 2021 carjacking. One would expect equivocation coming from Mayor Muriel Bowser, SJW city council members, or perhaps woke prosecutors — but not from the D.C. Chief of Police, whose officers filed charges of felony murder and armed carjacking with a taser against the girls. Sadly, Acting D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee III had some harsh and uncaring answers to questions
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