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Trump Blows Up The IRS:
Goodbye Bloodsucking Taxes!

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Posted By: Imright, 2/20/2025 10:52:22 PM

Hold on, patriots! Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick dropped the bombshell today: the Trump administration plans to abolish the IRS , that nest of leftist bureaucrats squeezing decent Americans dry. Yes, you read that right: Donald Trump, the champion of freedom, wants to rip out the Internal Revenue Service and replace it with a tariff-based system that makes foreigners pay for our greatness. This is not a drill—this is the conservative revolution in action!

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Reply 1 - Posted by: JHHolliday 2/21/2025 12:28:34 AM (No. 1900628)
The country ran on tariffs before the Civil War. It was one of the main reasons the North wouldn't let the South secede. When Lincoln was told that the South would likely secede, he asked, "But what will become of my tariffs"?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Trigger2 2/21/2025 1:10:03 AM (No. 1900642)
Tariffs will NOT replace taxes. Period.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: crashnburn 2/21/2025 1:13:43 AM (No. 1900645)
It's not just taxes that suck the lifeblood out of the US economy. All those accountants and tax preparers that are necessary to comply with the tax regulations will need to find new work, and the money that we now pay them can go to improving our lives.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: MissMann 2/21/2025 1:13:55 AM (No. 1900646)
We'll pay more for goods, but think of how much we'll save! There must be a Constitutional Amendment to ban Income taxes, though, or we'll end up with both.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: RuckusTom 2/21/2025 5:59:06 AM (No. 1900696)
If President Trump abolishes the IRS and the federal income tax and replaces it with whatever (tariffs - how we did it before the federal income tax, or national sales tax, or whatever), he'll be on Mt. Rushmore.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rand Al'Thor 2/21/2025 6:24:49 AM (No. 1900707)
I agree with Number 4. The 16th Amendment codifies income tax into the Constitution (almost as big a mistake as the 17th Amendment). My concern is that the Dems will get back in and we'll have an income tax, tariffs and (as the Europeans like to do) a value added tax.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: judy 2/21/2025 6:25:58 AM (No. 1900708)
Maybe a federal sales tax? Flat tax for companies? Anything is better than the required annual filing mess...
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Reply 8 - Posted by: sagman 2/21/2025 6:59:28 AM (No. 1900730)
Maybe doable, maybe not. Forget that part of it for the moment. Dems are now forced to defend the IRS. How will that play in Peoria?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: anniebc 2/21/2025 7:13:37 AM (No. 1900737)
Government has ruined its perk of grabbing our tax dollars any way it sees fit. The worst is taxing us before we see a dime of our paychecks. We need to do something drastic to keep them from continuing to rob US. That includes getting rid of every trick that would lead to them robbing US. Rather than sending $5k to every tax paying American, I'd like to see a return of 2024 income, social security/medicare/medicaid money for every AMERICAN (only) who was robbed of such funds. It's more than the 20 percent President Trump proposed, but there'd still be 20 percent going towards the debt. It's hard to be concerned about paying off debt that is mostly stolen money. The biggest phase of DOGE should be to figure out a way to make the thieves pay. I think we all have plenty of suggestions we could provide to anyone who wants to know.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: udanja99 2/21/2025 8:36:37 AM (No. 1900782)
I’m not sure that I understand the whole tariffs thing but I’ve been advocating for a national sales tax instead of a federal income tax for decades. It has huge advantages - you get taxed on what you purchase, not what you earn so there’s no filing of tax returns. It’s none of the government’s business how much you earn or how you earn it. It’s completely FAIR because EVERYONE will be paying it - welfare queens, drug dealers, gang-bangers, foreign tourists, illegals, IRS employees, congress. And the IRS can be reduced to a couple dozen people with computers. What’s not to love?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Strike3 2/21/2025 8:47:43 AM (No. 1900794)
It's demeaning to sit there with a desk full of forms and instructions, counting up your pennies of bank interest, adding up totals from documents that the IRS already has and then watch the government send billions of dollars to Africa. I would be happy to see a real line-item budget being used to pay the government's bills and slash the amounts of giveaways.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: felixcat 2/21/2025 9:05:55 AM (No. 1900805)
We need to seriously reduce first the federal budgets for all Three branches of government. It's not just the executive branch that is a problem, but look at the budget for Congress: the staffers, aides, free pharmaceuticals, free military flights all over the world, etc ad nauseum.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: mc squared 2/21/2025 10:10:27 AM (No. 1900840)
A flat tax or any system, other than what we have, should put even more IRS bureaucrats out on the street.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: bpl40 2/21/2025 11:26:44 AM (No. 1900901)
It’s a known that about 17 to 28 percent of the nation’s produce is required to run the government of a modern society. By whatever means the government gets it. We are currently approaching 25%. That clearly has to go. Problem with the current tax system is that it is easily exploited by greedy politicians. It’s all done under pretext of fairness. A combination of tariffs and a national sales tax might be the least unfair way of doing it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bpl40 2/21/2025 11:27:46 AM (No. 1900905)
That should be 17 to 18.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: rememberwhen 2/21/2025 12:34:34 PM (No. 1900954)
The 16th Amendment permits but does not require an income tax. However, that will permit the Dims to reenact one the moment they regain power, without a constitutional amendment. It would not be sufficient to repeal the 16th amendment, which was passed to overrule the 1895 Supreme Court case of Pollock v. Farmers' Loan and Trust Company, which ruled that income taxes not apportioned among the states violated the Constitution. An activist court could, and probably would, overrule this case and allow reinstatement of income taxes. Any amendment would have to prohibit taxes on income.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: danu 2/21/2025 2:10:53 PM (No. 1901032)
for years we heard the infernals and their demands were not legal, not in accord w/ the constitution, never properly passed into law. just gangsters w guns and badges. now, bureaucrats, foreign and domestic, fleece the usa, w fake laws. ppl who tested taxation without representation have been thrown in jail. the marxocrats will find a way to have it all, and lard on a vat tax-to improve their piece of the pie. how can pdt rein in the waning tax professionals come up with the honour and justice to protect the new tax situation, and the country, from the decades of terror and thievery past present and future? if the kleptocrats go to jail-must they break rocks until they provide reparations to the taxpayers?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: chefrandy 2/21/2025 7:11:47 PM (No. 1901217)
@8 having grown up a stone's throw from Peoria it will be a 50/50 proposition. Still plenty of union manufacturing in the area although the ratio is down from my formative years. Caterpillar moved HQ from downtown to suburban Chicago a few years back but the riverfront still has a fair amount of active plants and the rest of Cat's production facilities while downsized are still in the Peoria area and across the river in East Peoria. Peoria County went 51/46 for Harris-Walz in November.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: EQKimball 2/21/2025 11:29:19 PM (No. 1901353)
This is an insiders’ club debate. Why would the half who don’t pay taxes be concerned about the IRS?
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