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The Catcher in the Rye Enigma Revisited

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Posted By: Mercedes44, 6/22/2024 6:01:35 AM

The 1951 J.D. Salinger novel The Catcher in the Rye has long been one of the most controversial literary tomes, inspiring films and criminal conspiracies. John Lennon’s murderer, Marc David Chapman, carried the book at the murder and continued reading it while Lennon lay bleeding at his feet. He has said that he wished to model his life after the novel's protagonist, Holden Caulfield, identifying with Holden’s misanthropic world view. John Hinckley, after his attack on President Ronald Reagan, was found to have a copy of Rye, but the book did not have anything to do with his psychosis.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Mercedes44 6/22/2024 6:08:06 AM (No. 1741516)
I must admit, I’ve read Catcher in the Rye as a child but never saw it as clearly as you state it Alicia, You did it again! Thank you for your clear pointed view.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Jethro bo 6/22/2024 6:48:15 AM (No. 1741525)
It was part of an English class in high school. We read and discussed and wrote a paper on the book. Our English teacher loved this book and really got into it. This was ;part of the english courses and we read many great novels and biographies. This one, however was horrid. I regret that I will never get back the I wasted on this book.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Strike3 6/22/2024 7:07:11 AM (No. 1741533)
Sometimes great books are horrid because they teach valuable, hard-hitting lessons about the dark side of mankind. "Lord of the Flies," "Mutiny on the Bounty" and "The Gulag Archipelago" also come to mind.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: JackBurton 6/22/2024 7:18:46 AM (No. 1741536)
Never had it assigned but did read some J D Salinger. His other works were offbeat, inventive and pretty good. Talking about 'Raise High the Roof Beam' and 'Nine Stories.' Started to read Catcher but partway thru, I had it with the 'negative waves' of the main character. Put it down and never looked back.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Wetenschapper 6/22/2024 7:29:45 AM (No. 1741539)
In my university days, I was a huge fan of Salinger, feasting on the combination of alienation and self-regard that his characters embody. A few years ago, in late middle-age, I attempted to re-read several of his novels. I never finished any of them. Not only could I no longer identify with Salinger's characters, but I found his smug cleverness as grating as the East-coast accents and culture his literature celebrates.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: PostAway 6/22/2024 7:35:08 AM (No. 1741545)
The first time I read the book I was 15 and thought it was engaging and funny. The descriptions of various people and their absurdities struck a chord and provided me with a sly mirthful way to look at others who I found to be strange or vexatious. I read it again in my 20’s and found it touching but only slightly funny. I read it again in my 30’s and found it profoundly sad. I couldn’t imagine why I’d ever thought it was funny and it taught me something about emotional maturation.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 6/22/2024 8:01:51 AM (No. 1741568)
I went to a boarding/prep school prior to a military academy. I read this book because my mom gave me a list of books to read as a kid that I would probably not have time to read as an adult. She paid me, lol. And I only got paid if I could pass her quiz. One of the best things she did for me. Big list of classics. Anyway, I did not particularly identify with the protagonist, I think mainly because I had a clear purpose (military) and was driven. But I sure saw Holden in the kids around me. Kind of an anxious liberal, fearing the responsibility of adulthood. Not an evil guy; nice even, if snobby. But no even moral compass. What it did do, however, is resolve in me to be an anti-Holden. To literally do and have the opposite of his worst traits. Seemed to work.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: New Mexico Rider 6/22/2024 9:06:12 AM (No. 1741597)
I'll go with Catch 22 (1955) for a Post War novel. But, really The Enchanted April ca 1920 wins every time in my book.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: udanja99 6/22/2024 9:22:30 AM (No. 1741608)
Me too, #4. I got about 3/4 the way through and gave up.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Echohawk 6/22/2024 9:52:04 AM (No. 1741617)
The author is correct. Holden Caufield sees himself as the Catcher in the Rye. He will protect the innocence of childhood in the rye field by catching them before they fall off the cliff into adulthood. As he walks around Manhattan, he sees adult vices in every dark corner. His coping mechanism is to detach from that world, but of course it doesn't work. As parents, we have the right and the responsibility to protect our children.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kitty Myers 6/22/2024 10:06:31 AM (No. 1741622)
I was an adult when I tried reading it and found it boring. I just didn't care about any of the characters, and I had no idea of what the story was about. I gave up after a few chapters. However, both my mother and my grandmother did read CATCHER IN THE RYE. My mother read it and found it "distasteful." My grandmother read it and referred to it as STINKER IN THE STRAW.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Zigrid 6/22/2024 10:51:07 AM (No. 1741664)
Never read Catcher...my English teacher was into Shakespeare...so I'm familiar with Hamlet and Cesar and Romeo...I bow to your judgment..."what light through yonder window breaks"...it is President Trump...sorry couldn't resist....
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/22/2024 10:56:51 AM (No. 1741669)
I never read the book because it was considered "R" rated from parent's perspective. From what I see now it appears that Mr. Holden possibly has the beginnings of a "Messiah Complex." Start with an arrogant person who identifies a problem then believes he can save the "_____" (fill in the blank) from the problem and that no one else can do what needs to be done; and that he addresses his "mission" with religious fervor. Yes, please save us from Messiah Complex people... but without becoming one yourself!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: msjena 6/22/2024 11:43:50 AM (No. 1741698)
I agree with Alicia about the novel's message. Holden wanted to protect Phoebe, but of course could not. All we can do is protect children as long as we can. There is, of course, an irony here in that Salinger apparently had a liking for very young girls.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/22/2024 12:08:12 PM (No. 1741707)
I read Catcher in the Rye while in high school and asking myself 'What's the point?'. My impression of Holden Caulfield was he was a screwup, possibly mentally ill, and I wouldn't trust him or anything he said. At that point, I'm asking myself I would ask, "Why am I reading this?" I could never relate to him in high school. I knew where my life was going. If I had read this while in college, it might have been been different because I could relate to someone whose life was at a crossroads. The other story that was like Catcher, was Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. I didn't get it. It felt similar to Catcher. I understand where Alicia Colon is going. Have to protect the children. Not sure Catcher would be a good comparison to what is going on today.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: sunset 6/22/2024 2:16:16 PM (No. 1741752)
This articles reference to MK Ultra, neglected to mention that Unibomber Ted Kazinski was corrupted by that CIA experiment. From CIA FOI report: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/06760269
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Reply 17 - Posted by: happywarrior 6/22/2024 3:19:14 PM (No. 1741764)
I had to read Catcher in HS and thought it was depressing. In the summer of my Junior year my father was NOT happy with my grades. He "assigned" me one book to read over that summer - 'Rabble in Arms' by Kenneth Roberts. I fell in love with that book and went on to read everything by Kenneth Roberts. I've always thanked my late Dad for that, and I recommend Roberts to everyone interested in the Revolutionary War. Such a great cast of characters.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Hazymac 6/22/2024 3:57:40 PM (No. 1741770)
If I recall correctly, at the end of Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye, Holden is in a psych ward. Some readers will remember characters Ward Stradlater and Edgar Marsala, and what they were famous for in the novel, but things didn't end well for the main character. When I read the novel in early high school, I thought parts of it were funny, but Holden was heading down the drain. That's not so funny.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: pensom2 6/22/2024 5:29:48 PM (No. 1741783)
I've read several of Salinger's works, including Catcher in the Rye. Salinger's short story, "For Esme, with Love and Squalor," is one of the very few nearly perfect short stories ever written. It is heartbreakingly beautiful. Salinger, in my opinion, was a positively brilliant writer, but quite emotionally disturbed and scarred. When I was in high school, Catcher was often unnecessarily shunned, because it used a few teenager-apt crude words or phrases. Those words and phrases are tame compared to today's high school common conversation. One of my favorite novels in high school was Huckleberry Finn. It is a beautiful story, simply but profoundly written, that is potentially soul-changing. Twain's character used the N-word because it was common parlance for that era, and Twain employs the word to highlight the hypocrisy of using a derogatory racial descriptor for a truly noble person who happens to be black. I understand why uneducated or ignorant individuals would object to the book, but it's a tragedy that Huckleberry Finn has now been banned in high school curricula.
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