Prof: Algebra, geometry perpetuate white privilege
Campus Reform,
by
Toni Airaksinen
Original Article
Posted By: Beardo,
7/31/2023 12:25:29 PM
A math education professor at the University of Illinois argued in a newly published book that algebraic and geometry skills perpetuate “unearned privilege” among whites. (snip) “On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White,” Gutierrez argued.
Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege, fretting that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Pook60 7/31/2023 12:32:42 PM (No. 1524354)
With the possible exception of Ms. Gutierrez, mathematics professors probably get paid more because they have the potential to get jobs in the non-academic world due to their knowledge of mathematics. Social Studies professors are already making more in academia than they could ever make outside of it. Of course, understanding economics requires mathematics, so whitey still gets the blame.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Mr Clean 7/31/2023 12:33:28 PM (No. 1524356)
"...algebraic and geometry skills perpetuate “unearned privilege” among whites."
Egyptian pyramid builders unavailable for comment.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
mizzmac 7/31/2023 12:34:28 PM (No. 1524359)
As my non-college educated, very successful, small business owner-Father used to say, "Better to have someone assume you are ignorant than speak and remove all doubt." This professor should have remained silent.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
philsner 7/31/2023 12:37:03 PM (No. 1524362)
Oh right.
FTA: "Gutierrez stresses that all knowledge is “relational,” asserting that “Things cannot be known objectively; they must be known subjectively."
Therefore, 2+2=4 is not objective. Really?
To quote Captain Obvious: Gutierrez is a nit-wit.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
billa57 7/31/2023 12:39:29 PM (No. 1524365)
Who would have thunk! Math is racist!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Newtsche 7/31/2023 12:39:50 PM (No. 1524366)
Not perpetuate, legitimize.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Nimby 7/31/2023 12:41:13 PM (No. 1524368)
Idjit
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 7/31/2023 12:43:55 PM (No. 1524370)
Black victimhood perpetrators must be near the bottom of the barrel when they start making accusations about math. Are they saying that math is just too hard for blacks? Because if they are, they're being racist. I doubt Sir Isaac Newton was targeting minorities when he created calculus...nor was Pythagoras when he was playng with right triangles and discovered tthat the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the sides of a right triangle. Those racist Greeks/Brits/Persians!
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What an absolute twit. Who knows nothing about history. I’m sure the Mesopotamians weren’t lily white, nor the Egyptians but you know what. I think the higher maths were developed in Europe, makes me even prouder to be a whitey.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
marbles 7/31/2023 12:50:28 PM (No. 1524381)
To a racist, everything is racist. Racism is a huge for profit industry.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 7/31/2023 12:51:32 PM (No. 1524384)
Yo, #2, don't forget that Cleopatra was white and there just a big to-do over her being depicted in a recent film as black.
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Ant that evil racist, George Wasington Carver, developed peanuts to help perpetuate black dominance over American society.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Luandir 7/31/2023 12:54:32 PM (No. 1524388)
Let the overlooked Mathematicians of Color get going on the next advances in the discipline! All those Europeans may have laid the foundations, but they are there for you to build upon.
What are you waiting for?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
rochow 7/31/2023 12:55:00 PM (No. 1524390)
Is this jerk attacking Europeans because those not of that background did not come up with anything very intelligent? They only sat on their rear end, smoked drugs, cooked Europeans who wanted to teach them how to read and write? So, we should all remain on the level of stupidity because this moron says so. Right!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Mofongo 7/31/2023 12:57:01 PM (No. 1524392)
Our aspirations to compete with China and Russia are ludicrous. We are destined to become a vassal state of one or both.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Samsquanch 7/31/2023 1:05:44 PM (No. 1524396)
I bet the CCP loves to hear this idiot speak.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
valinva 7/31/2023 1:08:45 PM (No. 1524398)
From her biography on the University website: Dr. Gutierrez' scholarship focuses on issues of identity and power in mathematics education, paying particular attention to how race, class, and language affect teaching and learning. Through in-depth analyses of effective teaching/learning communities and longitudinal studies of developing and practicing teachers, her work challenges deficit views of students who are Latinx, Black, and Indigenous and suggests that mathematics teachers need to be prepared with much more than just content knowledge, pedagogical knowledge, or knowledge of diverse students if they are going to be successful. They need political knowledge. Her current research projects focus upon: developing in pre-service teachers the knowledge and disposition to teach powerful mathematics to urban students; the roles of uncertainty, tensions, and "Nepantla" in teaching; and the political knowledge (and forms of creative insubordination) that mathematics teachers need to effectively "rehumanize" mathematics in an era of high-stakes education. She also builds upon Indigenous principles and has argued for a new form of mathematics where humans are no long centered. This form of mathematics is referred to as living mathematx.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Sanchin 7/31/2023 1:12:30 PM (No. 1524402)
Baseless attack on whites, which has become the accepted norm today. Chinese and Indians seem to do rather well in mathematics, more often than not surpassing their "white" counterparts. This is not about improving anyone,it is simply an exercise in attacking whites.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
MickTurn 7/31/2023 1:14:07 PM (No. 1524405)
SO only whites can discern those weird symbols and squiggly lines...and what the H are those little numbers above and to the right of other symbols...and what the H is X and Y all about...Oh, it's so confusing ... TO IDIOTS!
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
sunshinehorses 7/31/2023 1:15:23 PM (No. 1524407)
This is a quote from the article and her book “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.” I don't know what kind of math she is teaching, but math is pure logic, not abstract until you get into the higher levels of math in college and grad school. Algebra and gemoetry - even calculus is LOGIC. Yes you need to learn the rules to apply the logic, but there is nothing abstract about it. I was a math major in college and majored in applied mathematics (didn't like abstract math). Yes most of mathematics was developed by Europeans and Greeks - so what, it was CENTURIES ago. I am surprised that she learned enough math to be a college professor.
If a student doesn't learn basic algebra and geometry, this shuts them out of well paying jobs such as carpenters, plumbers, even heavy equipment operators (these jobs pay more than college grads BTW).
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
weirdone 7/31/2023 1:21:29 PM (No. 1524413)
And the lack of such rigorous courses perpetuates ignorance and stupidity and leads to lack of opportunities, poverty and dependence.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
leonardo 7/31/2023 1:23:15 PM (No. 1524416)
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
But we won’t miss those INHERENTLY RACIST “VICTIM” minds.
Mental dysfunction can strike ANYONE.
You can SEE who they are …
Don’t let THEM make the rules for everyone else.
Merit ALWAYS beats equality of outcome.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
PostAway 7/31/2023 1:29:37 PM (No. 1524422)
Algebra was invented by Arabs. The Chinese and Indians include millions of citizens who are proficient in higher mathematics and were building multi-story buildings before Christ. I’m White and I couldn’t tell you Euclid from Pythagoras, a quantum equation from a quadratic one. I don’t speak a word of Greek beyond “ouzo” but I can put two and two together: Prof. Gutierrez is an affirmative action graduate of Stanford and the U. of Chicago who got her Master’s and PhD in bullshite courses (education and social studies) and teaches that everyone but white men are stupid. Good thing more and more people including whites, blacks, browns, males and females are wising up to how much college is not worth it.
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If my memory serves me right, there is a movie called "Hidden Figures" in which black female mathematicians play a key role in determining trajectories of manned spacecraft.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Newtsche 7/31/2023 1:32:07 PM (No. 1524427)
If you run across a racist, well yeah, there's a racist.
If everyone you run across is racist, you're the racist.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Gordon Freeman 7/31/2023 1:35:28 PM (No. 1524430)
I'll bet that since the the colleges are infiltrated with chicoms. That they foster this type of thinking among faculty solely to weaken the United States. A method of dumbing down of the students.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Zeek Wolfe 7/31/2023 1:38:22 PM (No. 1524431)
Using this reasoning, Black people should forsake the use of the wheel because of whiteness of the inventors. Black people in sub-sahara Africa were introduced to the wheel a mere 500 years ago by the Portuguese. Side angle side, angle side angle, side side side! Never realized there was a racial component in geometry. Oh, the humanity!
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/31/2023 1:45:06 PM (No. 1524440)
If you want something made, it is nice to have someone that knows how to measure. Insurers and pension planners also hold them in high regard.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
FormerDem 7/31/2023 1:49:37 PM (No. 1524445)
How can anybody mix together Arabs and Greeks and whoever, and say they are all in the same conspiracy. This is just somebody who never wants to talk about any subject but his own. Any expertise he does not have is Wicked Stuff.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
DVC 7/31/2023 1:50:42 PM (No. 1524447)
No, algebra and geometry are just KNOWLEDGE, and have nothing to do with race, nothing at all.
However, if your CULTURE, for your racial subgroup, favors laziness, ignorance and is anti-education, then maybe YOU have created an environment were a racial subgroup might fail a lot at learning mathematics.
And then your racist scammers may call your failures "racist", when it's just an excuse for a failed, dysfunctional anti-education subculture.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 7/31/2023 1:51:34 PM (No. 1524448)
Don’t ask him to spell either.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
DVC 7/31/2023 1:51:58 PM (No. 1524449)
Lazy, losers whine "it's too HARD!"
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
504pc 7/31/2023 1:56:33 PM (No. 1524451)
The real issue is unless you have a degree in a field that is dependent on math then you basically have a worthless degree. I have a psychology degree because I couldn’t pass math 115. The only thing that saved me was that I could sell.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Tusker 7/31/2023 1:59:29 PM (No. 1524453)
Well, to say nothing of diffy-calc!
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
DVC 7/31/2023 2:02:01 PM (No. 1524455)
"curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."
Facts are such inconvenient, hard to get around things, aren't they?
And much of the rest of the world, specifically North and South America, and sub-Saharan Africa were purely in the stone age in the 1600s when Europeans, who DID invent all that mathematics, had the wheel, water power, guns, woven cloth in quantities, written languages, ships, navigation (trig....again) and tons of other things that the stone age folks had never invented.
IMO, the fact that nowhere in the Americas was there any wheel or any metal working beyond beating gold or silver nuggets into jewelry is a major factor in their getting largely steamrolled by modern cultures when the Europeans spanned the oceans.
Whining that your culture failed for 5000 or more years to develop beyond simple stone aged tribes with no written language, bronze or iron working, wheeled transport, water power.....is just pointing out why European cultures were superior. Factual superiority in technology and culture......well, that isn't "white supremacy" in the sense that they mean it, but European cultures are objectively superior.
Hard facts.
Whining doesn't change a bit of it.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
SALady 7/31/2023 2:05:18 PM (No. 1524460)
Meanwhile, in China, 3rd graders are learning calculus.
Think about it for a minute and let that truly sink in!!!
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/31/2023 2:20:11 PM (No. 1524469)
Maybe I won't have to pay the correct amount to a black clerk at a store. I'll just say I'm using White Math.
Isn't that the height of Liberal LOW EXPECTATIONS?
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A real life example of a donkey's behind.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan 7/31/2023 2:21:40 PM (No. 1524471)
RE #24: Yes there is that movie and it is excellent.
RE #36: Not only are they learning it, but their parents can help them with their homework!!
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 7/31/2023 2:42:27 PM (No. 1524500)
The smartest person I ever heard of graduated top of her class, the high school Class of 1990 here in Tennessee. She CLEP'd out of 4 years of college and went right to grad school. She'd be about 50 now. Pretty and smart!
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
gramma b 7/31/2023 2:44:57 PM (No. 1524501)
Moronic thinking like this explains all the technical, engineering, and scientific advancement coming out of the Third World. NOT.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 7/31/2023 2:49:34 PM (No. 1524505)
This is what equal opportunity looks like. To make sure people have the same opportunities they all have to have the same level of intelligence. Hence, the dumbing down of those that have more intelligence. We are not equal. None of us are the same. God did not create a race of clones. We don't treat each other as equals because we are different. We all do not have the same opportunities because we are not equal. This is reality. Trying to enforce equality denies reality.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
moebellini3 7/31/2023 3:03:33 PM (No. 1524517)
This woman has a serious mental flaw. Reading, writing and arithmetic. Without the basics you go nowhere. There are people who get an education and prosper and there are people who refuse to get an education and you can find them in every democratic run city. They can't count to ten but they sure as he** can fire a gun. Only a serioulsy ill democrat comes up with this bullsh**.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 7/31/2023 3:39:11 PM (No. 1524538)
Without mathematics there could be no electronics or any devices containing electronic components, i.e. almost anything that exits in modern society. No digital ANYTHING without which, society would implode, including for all non Whites. Mathematics allows people to build useful things and people who build useful things are rewarded by society by buying their products.
A person stating that mathematics perpetuates "white privilege" is an absolute moron. Further, such "privilege" is freely available to anyone through public education and in college where abilities in math earn scholarships. Good jobs are available to anyone who has mastered mathematics.
This also undermines the whole concept of "white privilege" because it is based on similar idiocy.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
JimBob 7/31/2023 4:14:01 PM (No. 1524558)
Dat settles it!
Ever'thang 'cept the NBA an' Rap bee's RACIS'!
Seriously, it is the CULTURE that kids grow up in that makes the difference.
What they learn at an early age.... what is important, what is not, what is right, what is wrong, to read -or not-, to respect others -or not-, to be honest -or not-, to be a 'maker' or a 'taker'.....what the Culture in the home teaches a young child points a person in a certain direction right from the get-go. Some homes have a culture that points a child to be a decent person, and some homes have a culture that points a child to be a Thug.
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I wonder how much she gets paid for this drivel. It's worse than worthless because it damages young minds (assuming she is actually in the classroom) and contributes absolutely nothing to their real education. And all across the nation there are hundreds if not thousands of "educators" like her, wasting millions of dollars of tax, tuition, and "grant" dollars. What a Con Game so called higher education has become! Of course Biden wants to "forgive" student loans as part of this scam . . . .
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
CallMeHank 7/31/2023 4:25:55 PM (No. 1524568)
Does Prof. Gutierrez balance her checkbook and verify her credit card statements? Maybe everything is on automatic. If so, people who can do math are, yes, perpetuating their financial control of her.
I was taught back in the Stone Age that arithmetic, that Arab thing al-gebra, geometry, and later even "higher math" are actually languages, much like English, Spanish, whatever, just different symbology. The "math tongues" really help in description and practical decision-making. If you can learn them and practice them, you get much better results in life. What do they call someone who cannot speak? Dumb. Different from stupid. Just unable to speak. But if someone is unwilling to speak, that's stupid.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
kono 7/31/2023 4:34:20 PM (No. 1524572)
Blank stare at Gutierrez...
She is strong evidence, herself, that suffering brain death is not necessarily an obstacle to being given the title "professor". Learning and applying math EARNS reward. Forcing universities to let unqualified POC's have the same reward without comparable achievement is wholly UNEARNED. Understanding that might require philosophy, though, and if she thinks math is racist, by extension she certainly believes philosophy and logic to be racist.
Please, just kill me now; having to watch the death of intelligent thought in society is absolute torture.
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a2 + b2 = c2 is racist? Who new!
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
paral04 7/31/2023 5:20:00 PM (No. 1524605)
Me thinks that Algebra came from the Arabs.....are they considered white or Black?
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
smokincol 7/31/2023 6:06:21 PM (No. 1524651)
this guy must have gotten his math degree from Lenin University, Moscow
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
skacmar 7/31/2023 7:25:31 PM (No. 1524733)
If teaching algebra, geometry, and other math is racist, why is this "professor " teaching it? Is dhe saying minorities are too stupid to learn math?
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
MissMann 7/31/2023 7:47:55 PM (No. 1524744)
Laugh, but already schools work to achieve "equity" by holding back talented students. Almost every penny is spent on English Learners, reading strugglers, "special ed," while "gifted" programs, advanced classes, etc. are slashed. There is certainly a place to lift students who are struggling, but why neglect talented students looking to advance? Not sure what happens to a country that tries so hard to thwart students from excelling.
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
Geoman 7/31/2023 8:26:54 PM (No. 1524763)
I would say that algebraic and geometry skills are the 180 degree opposite of unearned privilege. I had to learn those skills before tackling my required differential and integral calculus courses. Much to my dismay, I found that fundamental math preparation was most essential to passing physics and both organic and physical chemistry that underpinned my core geophysics and petroleum geology curriculum.
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Reply 55 - Posted by:
mifla 8/1/2023 3:45:14 AM (No. 1524887)
If I follow his logic, he is saying that since blacks cannot do math, math is racist.
The flaw in his argument is that he is an idiot.
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