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Biden’s team fears the aftermath of
a failed Ukrainian counteroffensive

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Posted By: Dreadnought, 4/24/2023 6:05:26 PM

The Biden administration is quietly preparing for the possibility that if Ukraine’s spring counteroffensive falls short of expectations, critics at home and allies abroad will argue that America has come up short, too. Ukraine’s ever-imminent counteroffensive will attempt to retake Russian-seized territory most likely in the east and south, though for operational reasons no senior officials from Kyiv have detailed specifics. Publicly, President Joe Biden’s team has offered unwavering support for Ukraine, pledging to load it up with weapons and economic aid for “as long as it takes.” But, if the impending fighting season yields limited gains, administration officials have expressed privately they fear being faced with a two-headed monster

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 4/24/2023 6:27:50 PM (No. 1455422)
Russia's "winter offensive" failed totally. This is looking more and more like the "loss of maneuver" warfare that brought us the trench warfare stalemate that was WW1. Tanks were the breakthrough technology, and also fresh ideas, and fresh troops from the USA, that brought WW1 to an end. Now, the tank has more difficulty surviving on the battlefield due to modern anti-tank weapons, but are required as part of a combined arms attack. Russia has lost huge numbers of tanks because they are NOT using the modern "combined arms" brigade structure, they have massively shorted their infantry component, which seems to not have changed. Attached and effective dismounted infantry a crucial to armored vehicle survival on the modern battlefield. In the early phases Russia had no dismounted infantry protecting their armored vehicles from ambush attacks by short range anti-tank weapons, and this still seems to be a serious deficiency in Russian attacks. We will see if Ukraine has been learning about how only a true combined arms attack can succeed. One other major factor that is quite different from the way the USA and NATO fight is that neither side has a valid, capable SEAD capability. This is Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses, which we started learning and doing in Vietnam and the USA has developed into a complex, difficult, but successful ability to wipe out the air defenses. Neither side has this capability in the Ukraine war - so neither side can have aircraft roaming freely over the battlefield.....any aircraft trying are at huge risk due to effective Air Defense systems on both sides. We will see, but if we don't give Ukraine the weapons that they need - they cannot succeed, and we haven't delivered a lot of the things that were so publicly promised, and yet remain to be delivered.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Blue Hen1 4/24/2023 6:29:36 PM (No. 1455425)
We’re throwing money down a rat hole
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Lawsy0 4/24/2023 6:35:40 PM (No. 1455428)
''Biden’s team fears the aftermath...'' That phrase makes for an exciting head line, but I seriously doubt if anyone in that so-called administration knows or cares what is at stake. They chose to put him at the helm, for whatever reason. They often go through the motions of pretending he is really in charge or even knows his ''donkey'' from a hole in the ground.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Bur Oak 4/24/2023 6:45:25 PM (No. 1455434)
I agree with #2. We are wasting money. I hope and pray the deep state doesn't start wasting American lives.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kate318 4/24/2023 6:49:04 PM (No. 1455438)
Huh…imagine that.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/24/2023 7:22:13 PM (No. 1455451)
Biden will be evacuating all the Ukrainians to the U.S. by the end of the year.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: SALady 4/24/2023 7:38:33 PM (No. 1455458)
In the battle of bad guys versus worse guys (your choice which is which), the only losers are innocent peasants (who are always expendable to the bad and worse guys) and the American taxpayers. Putin finally gets to be the dictator with total power that he has always wanted to have. Zelenskyy gets billions of dollars that he is skimming off the top of American aide for this quagmire and putting into his private bank accounts. If this comes down to a war of attrition, Russia wins because they have 5 to 6 times as many men to (probably not voluntarily) throw into the war as cannon fodder. And the peasants and American taxpayers (us peasants) just continue to lose.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: justavoter 4/24/2023 7:40:40 PM (No. 1455459)
FJB, considering your military leadership, prepare for the suck.
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