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Philosophy Professor: ‘Don’t go to
College! Become an Electrician.’

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Posted By: Imright, 3/22/2023 7:07:54 AM

I don’t think you should send your kids to any universities. [I told] my daughter, “Don’t go to college. Become an electrician.” I never would have imagined 10 years ago that I would [say] that. … It’s better to stare at a wall … [or] do nothing than to learn things that are false. -- Peter Boghossian, former Philosophy Professor Portland State University, Feb. 28, 2023 It is astonishing when a liberal philosophy professor tells people, including his own daughter, not to go to university because they have become “indoctrination mills.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: JackBurton 3/22/2023 7:36:11 AM (No. 1430712)
I'd read about the fake paper submissions and how they got published. "Peer reviewed' my nether physiology! I have a grand nephew who will soon be certified as a welder. My brother says that's a 80k to 120k/year gig. Try doing that with a teacher's cert or gender studies degree.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Socaworld 3/22/2023 8:33:45 AM (No. 1430751)
I just retired after 20 years teaching in the Big Ten. While a liberal arts education has always suffered from a liberal tinge from a combination of otherwise-marginally-employable faculty and administration, the bottom has completely dropped out of the university system since the introduction of the iPhone, social media, the Trump ascension, and the pandemic/lockdown. Undergraduate education is too expensive and too supercilious to provide a meaningful adult life. Don't drink the Kool-Aid. Instead, learn a meaningful trade that will "keep you" as Benjamin Franklin advised; teach. yourself over the internet or by cherry-picking courses of interest and usefulness. Take the initiative of developing your own mind and system of values. Outside the STEM curriculum, academia is broken.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: FunOne 3/22/2023 8:40:25 AM (No. 1430755)
My grandson chose to be a mechanic at a local car dealership, and in eight months has seen his pay increased to the point that he makes more than an assistant professor at the local university. As a person with a doctorate and employment at two major universities, I couldn't be happier. His father and mother both have aster's degrees and they are very pleased that he will avoid the indoctrination of equity, inclusion and diversity. Higher education has been taken over by liberals and I made that observation back in 1980 when I was pursuing my doctorate. When we need people to repair automobiles, fix the leaks in the water and sewer lines, and keep the electrical system functioning, we don't seem to really need a person with a degree in some "whatever-studies". I look for college attendance to continue to decline..
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Reply 4 - Posted by: anniebc 3/22/2023 8:49:25 AM (No. 1430766)
Defund public colleges and universities now. There's enough material (especially for liberal arts) out there now that people can self-educate. We need to loudly protest against the institutions controlled by the left; give them a dose of their own medicine as we take these institutions BACK!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: NamVet70 3/22/2023 8:52:52 AM (No. 1430771)
Remember that "peer reviewed" means reviewed by your peers. If you are a leftist woke ideologue then your peers are fellow leftist woke ideologues.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: nwcudagal 3/22/2023 9:23:16 AM (No. 1430804)
I've used "educated stupid" to describe people with advanced degrees for years. I've supervised people with masters degrees and wonder why they wasted their money.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Strike3 3/22/2023 9:25:10 AM (No. 1430805)
This advice has been true for many years. It's not what colleges and universities attempt to force feed the mind that is of value, it's what the mind was born with that makes the difference.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 3/22/2023 9:27:06 AM (No. 1430809)
How much does college cost? What type of job can you get after graduating college? Tuition is through the roof unless one attends a local college. Add on top of that the cost of housing. How many big paying jobs that require a college degree have been outsourced? I managed to graduate with a B+ average owing a total of $400. I did 5 years of college over an eight-year period. I also worked. I also stayed at home which was cheaper for me. In the end I got a job at a multinational corporation and eventually worked myself up to a 6-digit salary. I saved my money and 'retired' at the age of 50 and live humbly. Looking back, I realize how lucky I have been. Circumstances worked in my favor. Being able to save money by staying at home while I went to college. Getting a good paying job that lasted 26 years. Learning to be satisfied living a humble lifestyle. Don't know if all that is possible today.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 3/22/2023 9:32:25 AM (No. 1430812)
There are 30 years between my bachelor's and master's degrees. I earned both a large universities. The changes during that time are mind-boggling. Universities need to abolish every department that includes "studies" in the title. The mush that is troweled into students' heads these days is dangerous.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rumblehog 3/22/2023 10:04:03 AM (No. 1430855)
Son number one obtained Accounting degrees, followed by his CPA. and is still paying off the graduate school loan, many years hence. Son number two tried University several times, Community College once, then decided to pursue his Electrician's License. He's over halfway there and happy with his decision, loves working outside with no two days the same. He'll have no student loans and will be handsomely billing plenty of PhD's for his services in the college town in which he works.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: MDConservative 3/22/2023 10:32:44 AM (No. 1430887)
And then she can be lauded for breaking some glass ceiling, making history, and inspiring women in the trades...
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Reply 12 - Posted by: MickTurn 3/22/2023 11:12:54 AM (No. 1430947)
Put simply, we need people with Trade Skills, not students that learn to dance to the SICK Woke Tune!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: mc squared 3/22/2023 11:23:19 AM (No. 1430963)
And you'll always have a position. A friend at a large commercial electrical contracting firm says young apprentices don't stay because they think the work is too hard. That firm always has openings for sincere employees. MBA's? Not so much
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Reply 14 - Posted by: zoidberg 3/22/2023 11:57:35 AM (No. 1431000)
I'm sure those that opt for trade school rather than indoctrination will be much happier.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: RayLRiv 3/22/2023 12:06:29 PM (No. 1431008)
Great demand for pilots and/or aircraft mechanics. Commercial aviation is facing a shortage of pilots (as those of my generation have begun to retire) and there are technological developments (UAVs - unmanned aerial vehicles, electric flight, etc) that will soon have as much a commercial impact as the DC-3 did for commercial aviation back in the 1930s. Most major carriers would like for their pilots to have college degrees - but you can get an online degree from an accredited university cheaper than attending a brick-and-mortar college. Starting salary at the air cargo company I work at is not great for your first year or so ($30,000) - but you'll spend your first year mostly training, living in subsidized company housing (apartment 'crashpads') and flying the least-popular routes. Once you build up seniority average salary for 'freight dog' pilots at my company is $190k a year. Don't want to go the pilot route and rather fix or maintain aircraft engines? Get your A&P (Airframe & Powerplant) certification in 18 months, pass the FAA tests and you'll be on your way to earning $90+ a year.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: TXknitter 3/22/2023 12:40:23 PM (No. 1431044)
I applaud Mr. Boghassian for his honesty. I have a nephew who went to welding school fifteen years ago. He has travelled all over Texas working and loves it. He says welding schools are now flooded with applications. He meets new young welders all the time. Hooray!!!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: FLCracker 3/22/2023 1:18:08 PM (No. 1431080)
The grandson just got out the Army at the end of his third tour and opted to become an apprentice millwright! A job title in use since the Middle Ages and still going strong, although they don't make mills so much these days. Google it, but effectively, they put all the stuff into a factory.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 3/22/2023 1:28:02 PM (No. 1431097)
Actually very good advice. Go to Mikr Rowe's web site , something like "Mike Rowe works" is a way to get information about many kinds of good jobs with the brain damage from college indoctrination.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: SycamoreHills 3/22/2023 1:57:44 PM (No. 1431134)
My next door neighbor, an immigrant from Dominica who dropped out of college in his third year and is doing very well said it best. "Education is free, it's the degrees that are expensive".
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 3/22/2023 5:19:53 PM (No. 1431232)
Sorry....#18 should be "without the brain damage....." Mike Rowe has a good show, "How America Works" which profiles a different blue collar industry each episode. It also highlights the importance of the workers, and gives their education and experience levels as they do important jobs that Make America Work. Well worth getting young people to watch to get a look at possible careers. I'm retired and still find it interesting. Mike just does the narration.
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