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Real and Fake Worlds: Why the Trains are Failing

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Posted By: Judy W., 2/15/2023 5:28:36 AM

Eight guys who have done OK in life at a cigar shop in Miami. (Snip) As we are there, I ask people what they do for a living. “Real estate investing,” “Private equity,” “Sales.” No one worked on planes, trains, or automobiles. Therein lies the problem. We live in two worlds, the real and fake ones. Money is fake. Or socially constructed if that’s how you prefer it. We’ve all agreed that these pieces of paper matter. Our agreement is strong enough that without money, you will die. Malaria is real. It will kill you. This isn’t something we have to all agree on. Reality exists outside of our consciousness.

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This is excellent. Especially his points about employers' being banned from giving applicants IQ tests. So poor smart kids can't be identified and encouraged and educated. (If they are white, I add.)

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Reply 1 - Posted by: downnout 2/15/2023 7:43:56 AM (No. 1403270)
His comments about consultants are worth their weight in gold. Excellent.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Clinger 2/15/2023 8:29:52 AM (No. 1403310)
We didn't like the gap between the successful people and the not so successful people in particular because of some inconvenient observations regarding the make up of those groups. Rather than figure out and address the root causes be they cultural, or otherwise, we chose to address the symptoms and push the successful down. It became the successful peoples fault that their less successful neighbors faired poorly compared to them. My scrawny girlfriend and I had conversations regarding this half of a century ago. We still use intelligence tests by the way. But I guess as long as you don't call it that you're fine such as the Raven's Progressive Matrices. I even had a simulation test once where I had a pretend job with actors serving as peers and subordinates and had to manage my way through a phony crisis.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: czechlist 2/15/2023 8:56:10 AM (No. 1403338)
Was anyone else confused about Buttagig's comment about a dirth of minority workers doing menial jobs (in my area there is no shortage of hispanics but rarely a w hite or b lack)? Wasn't the opposite true in the not so distant past? Wasn't the goal to lift minorities out of stereotypical manual labor? The left is only focussed on racial division and has to invent disparities in order to foment discontent.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/15/2023 9:57:30 AM (No. 1403401)
Reminiscent of Atlas Shrugged where the real world ground to a halt because the fakes were in charge. We're getting there. This is what dumbing down looks like. It's everywhere. Look around and see how many people try to get by while not being productive in any way shape or form.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kate318 2/15/2023 10:00:27 AM (No. 1403405)
Indeed, #4. The problem is that we have no Galt’s Gulch to which we can escape.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/15/2023 10:17:21 AM (No. 1403424)
Have always wondered. If Ayn Rand were alive today and rewrote Atlas Shrugged to reflect current technology and society, what would it look like? Agree there is no Galt's Gulch to escape to.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: red1066 2/15/2023 11:54:50 AM (No. 1403491)
Jordon Peterson gives a nice explanation on intelligence which can be found on Youtube. In citing intelligence testing done by the military for over a hundred years, the studies conclude that there is no job in the military that anyone with an IQ of 83 or less can be trained to do. Peterson states you can't train people with an IQ of that level where they can do a job without extensive supervision. One needs to constantly retrain them. There are about 10 to 20 million people with that level of IQ. Peterson says that's the real problem. What are you going to do with these people?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Gordon Freeman 2/15/2023 12:11:32 PM (No. 1403500)
The railroads keep cutting costs which leads to under staffing. Plus poor wages which makes the smart people look for better jobs. A lot of activities are outsourced which leaves inexperienced personal so you end up with accidents.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Proud Texan 2/15/2023 2:36:37 PM (No. 1403643)
Some of us have talked about the "fake world" vs. the "real world" for a long time now. We also so have "man-made" world (big cities) vs. the "real" (rural) world. They both end up with the result the author describes in a way that I don't think I have ever seen for public consumption. It is good to see this in a article for all to see. The further people get away from the real natural world, the more they start to think they are "experts" in the fake man-made world. These "expert" (especially in government) are as useless as a three-dollar bill and cause a great deal of harm to good people in society. I like to be nice and simply call them "leaches on society". The more they get to have a say in anything, the further into chaos things go.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: crashnburn 2/15/2023 4:42:19 PM (No. 1403733)
#7, there's always politics. They'll fit right in with most of the current politicos, especially the DemoniKKKRats..
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Reply 11 - Posted by: crashnburn 2/15/2023 4:55:05 PM (No. 1403736)
I guess I work in the real world, but it's hard to tell. I develop software that pushes invisible bits around that eventually end up controlling hardware. It pays decent money. I was laid off from my engineering job in 2002, during the tech wreck. I wasn't sure technology would ever come back. I used a low-doc loan to get a new loan on my house and take money out of it. I figured I could either take a chance on making a living by investing in the stock market or go broke quickly; or not invest at all and go broke slowly. I lucked out and got in while the market was low and got another engineering job while I was still solvent. I continued investing as I worked and refined my approach. I thought it was great when my annual investment return equaled my annual salary. I'm no stock market guru, but my 6-week return is a bit more than 4 times my annual salary. I will be surprised if those returns continue, and hold up through the end of the year. This was a long-winded way to say I'm working in the real world, but my fake world returns dwarf my real-world salary. Funny thing, an early aptitude test showed I'd do best as a conservative investment banker. Maybe they were right.
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