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Western Intel Fiasco In Ukraine

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Posted By: earlybird, 7/28/2022 3:48:39 PM

You’ve probably heard or read about the Western attempt to suborn Russian pilots to defect along with a military plane or planes. Friend George brought a Russian article to my attention. It’s a fairly full account, so I’m pasting it in. As you may or may not have learned already, the effort backfired totally, with the Russians obtaining valuable intelligence regarding the location of air defenses in Ukraine. The Russians have also, naturally, taken advantage of the situation to ridicule Western intel services, specifically naming MI6.(snip)This is a Google translate job, so I can’t vouch for the word choices—some are a bit suspect, although the overall accuracy seems good.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Kate318 7/28/2022 4:42:44 PM (No. 1231376)
Wait…what? I thought the Russians were getting their backsides kicked, and were in over their heads with deserting soldiers and leaders with one foot in the grave. Wasn’t that the narrative we were supposed to embrace, along with the Ukrainian flag?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: TLCary 7/28/2022 5:11:48 PM (No. 1231401)
But the Ghost of Kiev already shot down every Russian jet... oh yeah, that turned out to be complete fiction reported as news. Well, Ukraine's fictional jet fighters are way better than Russia's, so Ukraine has this war all but won... must be, I read it in all the papers.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: volksford 7/28/2022 5:24:55 PM (No. 1231413)
Looks like we have some real double naught spies calling the shots .
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rich323 7/28/2022 5:59:25 PM (No. 1231437)
Our intel has failed us since WWII. Vietnam, Korea, Iraq. They lied to us planners during Desert Storm. Intel can not be trusted by active duty military or civilian leaders. Intel is driven by Deep State objectives, probably outside of the USA.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JackBurton 7/28/2022 6:16:29 PM (No. 1231448)
First of all: Telling Russian pilots that they could turn in a Russian plan for cash and citizenship? Sometimes this works. There's a history of it working. Secondly: Those pesky Russians figured that when the Ukrainians gave them a list of places to land, they named airfields. Like, who wouldn't? So they bombed those sites. OK. All's fair, etc. I recommend all you smarty types get a good night's sleep and make sure the coffee is working the next morning before coming up with your next plan. And take Prevagen. It's got an ingredient that comes from jellyfish. This was an oversight and a 'D'oh' and like that. Happens.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: TCloud 7/28/2022 7:57:35 PM (No. 1231517)
Putin has no need to rush, rush! His good friend is ready, the Russian Winter is preparing and it is no friend to anyone!
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You’ve probably heard or read about the Western attempt to suborn Russian pilots to defect along with a military plane or planes. Friend George brought a Russian article to my attention. It’s a fairly full account, so I’m pasting it in. As you may or may not have learned already, the effort backfired totally, with the Russians obtaining valuable intelligence regarding the location of air defenses in Ukraine. The Russians have also, naturally, taken advantage of the situation to ridicule Western intel services, specifically naming MI6.(snip)This is a Google translate job, so I can’t vouch for the word choices—some are a bit suspect, although the overall accuracy seems good.
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