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Clean Energy Has a Dirty Little Secret

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Posted By: Dreadnought, 5/2/2022 8:24:09 PM

Clean energy has a dirty little secret, just revealed by MIT science writing student Shel Evergreen: Its “unsustainable” appetite for minerals and the dirty ways they’re obtained. From Evergreen’s report for Ars Technica: In South America’s Atacama Desert, salt flats are dotted with shallow, turquoise-colored lithium brine pools. In the Democratic Republic of Congo, children chip at the ground for cobalt. In China, toxic chemicals leach neodymium from the earth. All that extraction “presents humanitarian, environmental, and logistical challenges,” Scenes like those might already be familiar ground for those who aren’t wedded to the green fantasy of clean energy. 

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Reply 1 - Posted by: formerNYer 5/2/2022 8:43:20 PM (No. 1144737)
OMG!!! Us, the great unwashed conservatives, have been saying this for years.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JimJr 5/2/2022 9:11:23 PM (No. 1144757)
Welcome to the districts.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Venturer 5/2/2022 9:12:21 PM (No. 1144758)
This is no surprise, it's just being ignored while some get rich pushing Green
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 5/2/2022 9:55:09 PM (No. 1144797)
This, and the article above, need to be circulated as widely as possible.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/2/2022 10:34:25 PM (No. 1144825)
Agree that this is no surprise. The battery technology is heavily dependent on exotic metals whose production CANNOT scale to the qualities needed to meet green expectations. Further, even if it could be scaled up, the amount of energy possible to store in batteries will be nowhere near what is needed for a modern, energy hungry society. All this has been discussed and rational people KNOW that green plans are insane because of these insurmountable restrictions. This means nothing to the crazies.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 5/2/2022 10:55:26 PM (No. 1144846)
"Clean energy" is dirtier that normal energy, but more profitable for the corruptocrats, even if it means freezing in the dark for us peasants.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Muguy 5/3/2022 9:23:34 AM (No. 1145163)
Well DUH! Hybrids make more sense, but that still means fossil fuels. What is problem with natural gas which does not pollute?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 5/3/2022 10:02:46 AM (No. 1145216)
Re #7, with current feedback catalytic converter systems, gasoline cars don't pollute, either. BUT, they have conveniently redefined "pollution" so that carbon dioxide is now claimed to be a pollutant. In reality, CO2 is a harmless gas to humans in the extremely tiny concentration in the atmosphere, but a huge benefit to all green plants. More CO2 means more and healthier green plants, and a better, more productive planet. Crops should be more productive with more CO2. In fact, commercial greenhouses add CO2 to their atmosphere because it enhances plant growth. Their "facts" are non-factual, purely political propaganda.
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