What Do We Do with the FBI Now?
American Thinker,
by
John Green
&
Quentin Smith
Original Article
Posted By: Magnante,
12/24/2021 3:17:33 AM
The events of the past five or six years have demonstrated to America that the FBI is no longer the unbiased law enforcement agency it once was. (snip) There are only two options: rehabilitate the FBI, or eliminate it. The current state is unacceptable in a functioning constitutional republic.(snip) The DoJ has not only failed to provide course correction to the FBI, it has arguably contributed to the problems. The rebuilding of the FBI should be overseen by a board chartered with the mission of rehabilitation, and staffed with people who care about integrity and understand what a well-functioning police organization should look like.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
mifla 12/24/2021 4:34:14 AM (No. 1017319)
Change the name to KGB.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Californian 12/24/2021 4:50:37 AM (No. 1017326)
Flush the whole thing, fire everyone. The FBI was corrupt from the day it was founded. A consent decree won't fix that. It was born bad. And while we're at it, the CIA and DIA can go, too.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 12/24/2021 5:09:49 AM (No. 1017334)
First of all, everyone involved in criminal behavior needs to be indicted, immediately. The next step is to remove everyone that was placed in any position of authority by Obama or Biden and given their walking papers. The organization needs to be downsized by 50%. This organization is corrupt and needs to be cleaned out. BUT do not stop there. The entire Department of Justice needs to be flushed out.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DiegoDude 12/24/2021 5:22:56 AM (No. 1017338)
Give it An enema to flush all the crap out. Whoever gets elected president in 2024, will need to flush out the top 10 layers of the :FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, DHS,DOD or starters. Call it the Federal Government Reduction Act.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Blue Hen1 12/24/2021 5:32:13 AM (No. 1017343)
But who’ll look after the Biden kids?
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Defund and disband. Do the same for ATF. We don't need federal stormtroopers.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Amoeba 12/24/2021 5:39:16 AM (No. 1017346)
police chiefs are just as political as the local politicians that give them their positions. They have to be political to keep their jobs and have to cater to corrupt politicians. Sheriffs are at least elected. I would put sheriffs in charge of any oversight board. But I doubt that I will ever trust any federal police agency again; or support one. I do agree that the FBI should be moved to Oklahoma or Nebraska or some very rural small town in flyover country. Washington DC ought to be shut down and leave the lobbyists in it.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
5 handicap 12/24/2021 6:03:31 AM (No. 1017350)
The Democrats, not one of them, cannot be trusted to be involved with anything that requires integrity. So, it'll be up to the Pubbies to git-er done. Fat chance there; finding more than two with the stones to make this happen may be a slog of futility.
The cancer that is the FBI has to be cut out and destroyed, any remnants thereof or anyone associated in the slightest fashion kept as far away as possible. Like any infection, prior association would reinfect the corpus.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Krause 12/24/2021 6:22:36 AM (No. 1017359)
The FBI has a fatal disease...the Comey Disease.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 12/24/2021 6:25:16 AM (No. 1017360)
The best thing they can do is move the headquarters out of the endlessly corrosive D.C. swamp and into the heartland somewhere. Then fire all upper level management.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 12/24/2021 6:30:11 AM (No. 1017364)
Replace FBI with SS........problem mo betta now.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Rinktum 12/24/2021 6:39:23 AM (No. 1017372)
I disagree with trying to rehabilitate this rogue agency. There are aspects worth spinning off before it is jettisoned into the deep, but creating another board to oversee the present agency is just another opportunity for more corruption. I would move all criminal scientific laboratory investigation departments out of the Washington DC area to the middle of the country. There is no reason to centralize these departments in the DC area. The rest of the organization must be eliminated because the name FBI has become synonymous with corruption. There is no coming back “under new management” either because trust with the American people has been irretrievably broken.
One thing to consider is to get rid of the lawyers who have gravitated toward these federal agencies. Unless they specifically are hired to do legal work, hire men and women whose background is in law enforcement. I honestly do not know what kind of indoctrination these law schools are implementing but it seems the last thing that is drilled into their students heads is ethics, personal integrity, and a clear delineation of right and wrong. Until that changes, hiring the product of these bastions of progressive dogma will only lead to more corruption. You cannot enforce the law if you do not respect and revere the law. The breakdown at the FBI is a result of men and women who pridefully believed they were above the law. Once again, a Biblical truth is affirmed. Pride goeth before destruction and an haughty spirit before a fall. ~ Proverbs 16:18.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
homefry 12/24/2021 6:48:36 AM (No. 1017383)
I dont know that it is possible to overhaul the FBI now, in this politicized nation.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
singermom9 12/24/2021 6:50:58 AM (No. 1017386)
#4 AND the Dept of Education (I have to just laugh even writing that word. No way these people are educators).
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
minuteman 12/24/2021 6:54:44 AM (No. 1017388)
What would be the downside of totally disbanding it? I can't think of anything good that they have ever done.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 12/24/2021 7:06:01 AM (No. 1017397)
The whole Department of Justice needs to be reformed. The FBI is only the most obviously corrupt institution of many. I'm not hopeful any clean up will occur. We can't even get rid of Christopher Wray.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
chumley 12/24/2021 7:07:57 AM (No. 1017398)
Those agencies have no place in a free society. They have shown repeatedly that they have nothing but contempt for The Constitution or for us. They are no better than Mafia enforcers, and far more dangerous.
Would we be better off if they disappeared entirely? Probably. Step 1 should be to repeal the Patriot Act. Then reduce their budgets by 10% across the board every year until the chicanery stops.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
LLAMA 12/24/2021 7:17:04 AM (No. 1017405)
Eliminate the entire DOJ, including the FBI. While you're at it, eliminate all cabinet level departments other than War, State, and Treasury. All of the other departments have no role in the Federal government as it was envisioned by the Constitution. The original 13 (or most of them) would never have signed on to be part of the government we have now, and there would be no United States of America.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Otis Gill 12/24/2021 7:37:10 AM (No. 1017419)
I wonder if Hannity is ready to modify his 99% estimate.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
bpl40 12/24/2021 8:04:11 AM (No. 1017426)
Both the IRS and the FBI should be reduced to policy co-ordination and archival roles. Federal Tax collection and Federal Law enforcement should be turned over to the states. That is what the Constitution requires.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
smokincol 12/24/2021 8:26:54 AM (No. 1017442)
no need to talk about this topic because nothing will get done that should be done. the demcommies hate the FBI until they need them to drive forward some illicit investigation and then, it's a different story
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
BarryNo 12/24/2021 8:33:13 AM (No. 1017443)
I agree with one poster. Fire everyone. Investigate and arrest those who overstepped authority and common sense - that includes any agent who entrapped people. Let them find jobs in police departments, if they can.
If an FBI is needed, induct them from existing law enforcement. Make the appointments term-limited. Have them manage on-site police forces to do the jobs they did. Anyone who serves in the new FBI gets a little service bonus, and is exempt from future appointment - though they can advise, as necessary.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
NamVet70 12/24/2021 8:54:37 AM (No. 1017469)
When Bill Clinton took office he immediately demanded the resignation of all the Federal attorneys, so he could appoint those the Democrats wanted. They must have already created a list of who they wanted before the election. The precedent has been set from that point and should be followed the next time the Democrats lose. The FBI is such a mess it should be eliminated. The Federal Marshals in the Dept of Treasury can assume all remaining functions the FBI had.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
sparky joe 12/24/2021 9:04:11 AM (No. 1017479)
Change the name to
Federal Justice Bureau
F J B
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 12/24/2021 9:24:26 AM (No. 1017496)
This agency needs to be closed, re-purposed, and eventually re-opened once the corruption has been culled. But prefer to wait until 2025 so President Trump can lead the effort.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Roscoelewis 12/24/2021 9:32:56 AM (No. 1017501)
An organization rots from the top down. It is the leadership that is rotten. The underlings are following the leaders. To change the organization, you've got to change out the top levels of leaders.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 12/24/2021 9:39:21 AM (No. 1017507)
What happened to all those loyal, noble, above reproach, rank and file agents we kept hearing about from the likes of Hannity? Weren't they going to do something about corruption in the FBI? E.g. quit, protest, go to Project Veritas ... something? Or, are all agents McCabes doing their 20 to get their pension and golden health care and, in addition, taking a knee in support of BLM?
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
czechlist 12/24/2021 9:44:28 AM (No. 1017511)
there should only be a term limited Senate appointed board with no powers other than coordinating state. investigations of interstate crimes.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 12/24/2021 9:46:51 AM (No. 1017514)
Here's one better, save the Military, disband the entire Federal Bureaucracy and call a Constitutional Convention of the States for what stays, what goes, what gets dismantled and rebuilt. Tell each and every one of the Civil Servant lightweights to reapply for their old job in Minot, North Dakota, where all Federal Agencies will be headquartered henceforth.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 12/24/2021 9:49:56 AM (No. 1017517)
I'm glad that none of the J. Edgar Hoover haters have shown up on this thread.
Hoover was a great American patriot and hero. He only used the dirt he discovered on politicians to keep them in line - - and to keep them from committing corrupt acts again. He never used any information for his own personal benefit - - or to help a political party. He had immense power - - and he used it wisely and patriotically. And his agents reflected his integrity and patriotism. Those truly were the days when 99.9999% of the FBI agents were honest and patriotic.
I hope the Hoover Haters continue to stay off these threads.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 12/24/2021 10:00:11 AM (No. 1017530)
Put the top tiers in Guantanamo. Pink slips for the peons.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
MDConservative 12/24/2021 10:14:34 AM (No. 1017543)
This is like a building full of asbestos and sensitive explosives. You can remodel or demolish...and at what costs?
Putting together a credible commission is impossible these days. Who do you trust? DOJ is as filthy as its component FBI (and you can toss in a number of law enforcement and intel community cousins). Bring in past directors, like Mueller or Comey, to guide the effort? Both have 24 kt reputations in Washington circles. Past AGs like Sessions, Barr, or Holder? Who do you trust?
And once the demolition is underway, what's to stop leakage of legitimate national secrets? Actual damage to national security? A settling of political scores with dossiers getting loose?
Let's merge the FBI with other Federal law enforcement, like DEA or Marshal's Service. You think it's the KGB now...what monster would this create?
It's all very easy to dismantle or destroy the FBI...
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
kewmac 12/24/2021 10:18:01 AM (No. 1017546)
The FBI is beyond salvage as is most of the rest of the federal government.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Twinkle93 12/24/2021 10:31:13 AM (No. 1017560)
Why is the FBI even under the Attorney General and the DOJ?
Most or all states do not have their State Police reporting to the Attorney General.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
DVC 12/24/2021 10:48:24 AM (No. 1017581)
Close it. Shut it down, fire everyone, sell the buildings and do NOT replace it or attempt to reform it.
The country got along fine without ANY federal law enforcement for 125 years, and we can do it again. Have state law enforcement work together more effectively.
END the FBI.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
MickTurn 12/24/2021 11:16:16 AM (No. 1017616)
For starters, Put ALL the Leftist Thugs that have been abusing their power IN PRISON, then clean house 100% of all Leftists/Thugs. Then we can talk!
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
weejun 12/24/2021 11:36:18 AM (No. 1017647)
Agree with all posters who say “shut it down,” and the practical way to do so is via “financial starvation.” One of the first acts of a Congess with a substantial Republican majority should be a phased defunding of the FBI (e.g, we will half your annual budget request, and expect the same next year and the next).
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
previouslyon24 12/24/2021 11:37:45 AM (No. 1017654)
One can perhaps summarize the attitude of those in the swamp who might be charged with investigating:
Upton Sinclair: "it’s difficult to get someone to understand something when their income depends upon not understanding it."
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
mc squared 12/24/2021 12:04:11 PM (No. 1017686)
The FIB and the letter agencies all know what's coming if Biden/Harris/Obama lose the WH in '24. They're working overtime right now to keep their stinking jobs. If you think you've seen fraud in 2020, just wait.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
formerNYer 12/24/2021 12:17:18 PM (No. 1017710)
Put former Federal Prosecutor Rudolph Guiliani in charge and have him clean out the democRATs nest.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
DVC 12/24/2021 12:25:16 PM (No. 1017719)
Flush the FBI.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
little guy 12/24/2021 12:33:53 PM (No. 1017728)
I'm afraid that nothing short of total disbanding and re-inventing will truly work now. It has been that corrupted.
Seeing that will total deconstructing of the FBI will not happen, the next Republican POTUS must start a completely new & parallel agency or commission under direct supervision and empower them to basically investigate the "investigators". Once a few FBI agents are removed and punished with jail time, you'd be surprised at how fast the bad ones will leave or turn around. It's what the Knapp Commission did to the NYPD.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
4Liberty2020 12/24/2021 12:46:02 PM (No. 1017750)
My cousin was an FBI agent in the 60's and 70's, he would be devastated to learn that his wonderful occupation has turned into a political organization. I'm glad that he is not alive to see this mess.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
stablemoney 12/24/2021 1:01:50 PM (No. 1017766)
Prosecute them for Waco, Ruby Ridge, Jan 6, and all the Trump related felonies.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
mizzmac 12/24/2021 1:08:55 PM (No. 1017776)
Pull the plug. Flush it. It's too toxic to salvage. Leave law enforcement to the States.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/24/2021 2:21:32 PM (No. 1017834)
#30, Hoover probably meant well, there is no evidence to the contrary, but he missed some big things like the existence of La Cosa Nostra, which an informal survey of Little Italy in New York would have corrected. I admit, watching politicians and making sure they behaved was smart policy that probably kept agents very busy and politicians from doing even more harm.
#28 has the wisest suggestion on the thread. Civilian management with zero power to conduct surprise raids, smear or spy on people and responsible for everything they do. The FBI have won far too many cases while using entrapment.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/24/2021 2:25:45 PM (No. 1017838)
#11 The FBI has plenty of interaction with the SS, a relationship not readily advertised. The SS works with banking, credit card and currency issues.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 12/24/2021 2:32:22 PM (No. 1017845)
Fire everyone who works on the 7th floor at FBI HQ would be a start. Gut and replace with real Law Enforcement Agents. A complete overhaul of every supervisory role.
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
Red Ghost 12/24/2021 4:56:39 PM (No. 1017932)
I'm not sure what we do with the FBI now. Our country is in a very, very, very bad place. The authors of this piece talk about putting a board in place to do this and that with the FBI. Well who exactly puts the board in place? Who writes the regulations, the job descriptions, the mission statement of this newly "appointed" board? The Executive Branch? The Legislative Branch. The Judiciary? Everyone one of these branches of the federal government is at least as corrupt as the FBI itself. The 50 state governors? Really? How many are trustworthy, Republicans included? The 50 state legislatures? We saw how they rolled during the 2020 election.
We have a political and brutal out of control FBI run by a political and cruel out of control Department of Justice. So, disband the FBI? And then what? What takes its place? Again, who structures that entity?
Ladies and gentlemen the United States of America is teetering on destruction and I know this blessed Christmas Eve, I should be more positive. I know God rules everything and his plan is mighty and great. But, it is disconcerting at best living through this horrible period in our beloved Republic.
Regardless, everyone of my fellow Ldotters and especially our Miss Lucianne, God bless you all on this sacred and special night and day tomorrow.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 12/24/2021 5:07:55 PM (No. 1017942)
Hang'em all but six and let them be the pall bearers.
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
pmcclure 12/24/2021 5:32:43 PM (No. 1017964)
The FBI, along with most of the federal bureaucracy should be disbanded. It is hopelessly corrupt.
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
Nona 12/24/2021 8:02:11 PM (No. 1018038)
"staffed with people who care about integrity" Are there enough people with integrity in Washington DC to staff such an endeavor? Integrity seems to be in short supply. Everyone seems to be only looking out for themselves.
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
crashnburn 12/24/2021 10:23:48 PM (No. 1018103)
A gazillion likes for #25!
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
broken01 12/25/2021 7:31:02 PM (No. 1018712)
The FBI is so corrupt and pathetic right now it has become a joke. Sort of like the agents on the movie Die Hard. It needs to be dismantled.
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