Herd Immunity Against COVID-19 ‘May
Not Be Possible’: CDC
Epoch Times,
by
Zachary Stieber
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
11/17/2021 10:21:19 AM
Herd immunity against the virus that causes COVID-19 may be impossible to reach, a federal health official said in little-noticed remarks earlier this month.
“We would discourage a strict goal of a threshold where we think if we reach that, that community transmission will then cease,” Dr. Jefferson Jones, a medical officer on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) COVID-19 Epidemiology Task Force told a panel of the agency’s vaccine advisers.
“I think thinking that we will be able to achieve some kind of threshold where there’ll be no more transmission of infections may not be possible,” Jones said.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Thos Weatherby 11/17/2021 10:25:14 AM (No. 980365)
This thing would disappear if they made everything optional. And companies or businesses could not ask you or require any sort of vaccine. Same goes for local and state Governments. Then stock the hospitals with Ivermectin and HCQ. It would go away on it's own. It's time we move on with our lives.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
justavoter 11/17/2021 10:25:16 AM (No. 980366)
As long as they keep jabbing the population with a leaking "vaccine" poster is right. We will never reach herd immunity with the vaccinated spreaders out there.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
chance_232 11/17/2021 10:26:20 AM (No. 980369)
Gotta keep the restrictions, censorship, mandates and lockdows going thru 2024.
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Oh GFY, CDC. You have no credibility left. It's 100% burnt - toasted - after your ridiculous daily pronouncements about the controlvirus.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Nimby 11/17/2021 10:38:48 AM (No. 980385)
Time for Jones and Fauci to talk!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
slipstik 11/17/2021 10:41:54 AM (No. 980392)
If you do what the Indians do, ivermectin early, and let evabody.get.tbe dang disease, you'll have TRUE herd immunity in a year.. But NNNNOOOO, we gotta take the poison and die.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
wilarrbie 11/17/2021 10:45:20 AM (No. 980397)
Of course not. Even thinking this is possible runs afoul of their Vax Everyone policy. Quash the notion (except for that little word 'may' ) right out of our minds.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 11/17/2021 10:46:08 AM (No. 980400)
Relax. The CDC said it; that means the opposite is true.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
marbles 11/17/2021 10:46:15 AM (No. 980401)
Of course not. There's no money or power in it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Highlander 11/17/2021 10:48:19 AM (No. 980404)
Herd immunity not possible? Ask the Amish. They achieved it.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
MDConservative 11/17/2021 10:49:38 AM (No. 980406)
This is a song that never ends...the fear porn continues. We will be under control of "public health" officials and mandates for years to come.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Rather Read 11/17/2021 10:55:14 AM (No. 980412)
Well, duh. I said from the first that we have not eradicated the cold, we have not eradicated the flu and we will not eradicate this. We just have to learn to live with it. Now if Big Pharma will just get some treatments that we can take at home,,,,,,,
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
AltaD 11/17/2021 10:55:15 AM (No. 980413)
FTA: “The virus will never go away. It will be endemic. We’ll always have it with us. It’s always going to kill a few older people ever year, just like the annual influenza does, but we won’t have these huge waves,” Martin Kulldorff, senior scientific director
If that's the case, then the focus should be on treatments rather than ineffective shots every 4 - 6 months.
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... it doesn't help that the CDC changed the definition of "herd immunity" to assist in the mandatory "vaccination" program. N.B. they also changed the definition of vaccine...
The CDC is an enemy of truth and the American public!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
john56 11/17/2021 11:11:31 AM (No. 980435)
Of course not. Otherwise, any chance of us controlling the masses is pretty well shot.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Kate318 11/17/2021 11:11:57 AM (No. 980438)
Of course not, because you frauds won’t allow it to be possible.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Strike3 11/17/2021 11:17:34 AM (No. 980445)
They will never admit that herd immunity is only possible for those who have had the virus and recovered without ever having had the shot. That would destroy all of the narratives, not to mention Big Pharma's profits.
8 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
oldmagnolia 11/17/2021 11:23:38 AM (No. 980448)
Lying again.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
privateer 11/17/2021 12:09:36 PM (No. 980484)
I believe nothing form the Communist Death Cabal.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
DVC 11/17/2021 12:18:08 PM (No. 980492)
Herd immunity is impossible with their useless 'vaccine'. There is ample evidence that the 'vaccine' does not prevent a person from getting infected and transmitting the disease to others, vaccinated or unvaccinated. The data is unclear whether the 'vaccine' more commonly reduces symptoms or makes them worse (ADE), each seeming to occur in some patients, and CDC jiggering the data do confuse matters and cover up vaccine failures.
It is perfectly possible to attain herd immunity if people
1) have pre-existing immunity to this coronavirus, probably from having had another similar coronavirus in their previous infection history or
2) get infected with this coronavirus and recover, thereby getting a long lasting, likely lifetime, immune system protection from this disease.
Re item #1 above, don't scoff at natural immunity, it seems to be quite high:
The data from the inadvertent experiment on the Diamond Princess cruise ship indicates that 80% of well over 3,000 people who were together on a cruise, dancing, drinking, dining, gambling, buffet lines, movie theaters, etc for just under two weeks with the infection on board and NO precautions at all (this was before the disease was even known to exist) did NOT get the disease. This event, in Feb-March 2020 is almost totally ignored, yet shows that there is a large swath of pre-existing immunity out there. This inadvertant experiment wasn't ideally set up, being an accident, so the age distributions are not uniform, few children, and lots of workers in the 20-40 age group and lots of passengers in the 55+ age group. But it was a lot of random people and overall 80% did not get the disease after two weeks of fairly intimate social contact in a relatively closed environment. Even in the 80+ age group, 75% did NOT get the disease.
Interesting data look here. Break out by age groups, with bar charts.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/
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Instead, we have the medical equivalent of the Jelly of the Month Club with endless "booster shots" cued up. Maybe they can make the booster into a tattoo and when the number of boosters spells out "Pfizer" - you're done...
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
jacksin5 11/17/2021 12:51:13 PM (No. 980516)
It is, and always has been, a seasonal flu. The creators had no intention of designing a "One and Done" virus.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 11/17/2021 1:15:10 PM (No. 980550)
Good thing Governator Newsome extended the covid state of emergency statewide until March 2022. I thought we were doomed.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 11/17/2021 2:25:07 PM (No. 980638)
Please define 'herd immunity.'
And while you're at it please define 'case.'
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
singermom9 11/17/2021 2:50:00 PM (No. 980667)
When they FINALLY make a decision about this wake me. Mask-no mask-2 masks-3 masks-2 shots-booster shot-lockdown-go out (like the libs did when WE had to stay in) -we cannot take Ivermectin (because it does not work) but 200 members of congress take it as a preventative. (Dr. Pierre Kory Said 200 Members of Congress Were Treated With Ivermectin https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/10/26/joe_rogan_says_dr_pierre_kory_treated_200_members_of_congress_with_ivermectin
html) You cannot have it but they take it.
Does ANYBODY believe these fools anymore?
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They are doing their very best to insure that the herd runs off the cliff.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
lakerman1 11/17/2021 6:17:34 PM (No. 980886)
The governement is changing the definition of herd immunity. The term, historically, meant a slowdown/rate of new infections of a particular disease. No one believed that the diseases would disappear forever.
When it comes to the CDC, we are in Alice in Wonderland territory.
We should call it Fauci in Blunderland territory,
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Throwing in the towel. Finally. After scads of noted doctors, epidemiologists, virologists and other noted -ists said that it would never be eradicated.