Electric Vehicles Don’t Save Money
American Spectator,
by
Eric Peters
Original Article
Posted By: DVC,
1/22/2021 1:36:05 PM
Electric vehicles are being sold, in part, on how much they’ll save people in terms of maintenance costs.
That’s a total con.
EVs are not no-maintenance or even low-maintenance relative to non-electric cars. They are different maintenance.
And they’re not cheaper to maintain.
Instead of oil and filter changes, you change the battery pack.
That will shortly become clear.
An oil/filter change generally costs about $50 ($10 for a filter, $5 per quart of oil times 5 to 6 quarts, plus the labor, if you pay someone else to do it). Most non-electric cars need their oil and filter changed about once every 6,000 miles or so — about twice a year
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Newtsche 1/22/2021 1:39:39 PM (No. 670646)
Of course they don't save money. They make other people more money.
What they do is establish your green bona fides, connect you much more to the system, and limit your mobility.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
bpl40 1/22/2021 1:39:45 PM (No. 670647)
Besides, the electricity that the car uses must be produced by someone or something that uses carbon. This whole thing is a damn fraud.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 1/22/2021 1:57:52 PM (No. 670658)
#2, they imagine that electric cars will be powered by solar panels and wind turbines....which is a total fantasy. Germany has discovered that their solar power "investment" provides a barely detectable amount of power in the larger scheme of the whole country's power grid.
The Fools-in-Charge have no grasp of the magnitude of the problem, not even within a factor of 100.
The problems of no power at night and no power when the wind doesn't blow are NOT FIXABLE. Solar panels will NEVER work at night, and night will be half the time FOREVER.
Electricity storage has been tried many different ways, and none work on a large scale. The closest to working is pumped water storage systems where a large water reservoir has water pumped uphill with "excess" electricity. Later, when the electricity is needed, the water runs downhill to power turbines.
The HUGE problem that all large scale "power storage" schemes have is the "what do you do if you power storage scheme somehow fails and gives you back all that stored power in a huge hurry"?
Look up the Taum Sauk Upper Reservoir failure. It was extremely fortunate that nobody died in that one. Fifteen years ago, and a small reservoir. It was rebuilt ten years ago.
It has an efficiency of 70%, so you toss out almost 1/3 of the electricity that you "store" this way. And even this big and expensive a project puts out 8 hours of power output, maximum. If this was a gas tank for a car, you'd pour 3 gallons on the ground for every 10 you pay for.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Bazi 1/22/2021 2:04:02 PM (No. 670667)
I don't think people who buy electric cars are lazy. Nor do they care about saving money. It's all about virtue signaling.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bad-hair 1/22/2021 2:13:16 PM (No. 670675)
So print more. What comes after a trillion?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
privateer 1/22/2021 2:20:03 PM (No. 670681)
I believe this is on of the ideas of Saulucifer O'Linsky: the issue is NEVER the issue. Forget the Captain Planet B.S. it's about control. They don't want you to have the freedom to take long, inexpensive trips. They want you limited to short, inconvenient ones. Ideally you won't need a car, because you will live in a cinder block Soviet-style rat cage, walking distance to the factory of office. As for virtue signaling, that is just typical libtard narcissism: look at me! Aren't I fabulous? I care!
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
bad-hair 1/22/2021 2:27:40 PM (No. 670685)
Woke up a 52 Chevy pickup that had been sitting in a barn for 35 years. Drained it , flushed it, new oils and fluids, New battery. Cranked it about 3 times and off it went. 70 years later there's no stopping it when I go to the grocery store (in style). Stuff your Tesla Yuppie.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
planetgeo 1/22/2021 2:39:36 PM (No. 670706)
I remind my Tesla-driving friends that they are Gaia-killers driving those coal-powered cars.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
hoosierblue 1/22/2021 3:41:31 PM (No. 670785)
They are saving money on gas taxes they don't pay but how that compares to the taxes on electricity, I don't know. Also in the mix is that some government locations are starting to apply a special tax on them as they are not paying for the road maintenance that needs to be done on the roads that they still use.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
jollytroll 1/22/2021 3:45:59 PM (No. 670791)
Sheesh, where's a *true* conservative to go? I've been a "car guy" my whole life and waited for the time when I would be able to afford "whatever" I wanted. I thought when the time came, I would have a blast test driving a bunch of Porsche, Maserati, BMW, etc cars.
When the time *did* come, I test drove a Tesla and realized there was no point in the others, because this was the true choice for ME, and I love it !-). It's more convenient than a gas car for ME since it's always full, goes much further on a single charge than I ever need, and the one and only service it's required (in 2.5 years) they came to me and did the work in my driveway.
Shortly after taking delivery, I realized that I had just purchased my first truly American car in decades, and it was 100% based on its merits as an automobile for my needs/wants and had nothing to do with virtue signaling, saving the planet, or anything else.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
CactusStar 1/22/2021 4:40:15 PM (No. 670843)
If it works for you #10, I get it. I would consider one too if I lived in a city rather than in the great out of the beyond. However, as with everything in life, it's always good to have a back-up.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Strike3 1/22/2021 5:13:18 PM (No. 670870)
They also produce more pollution when you consider the power from the point of creation of electricity. I will walk or bicycle to my destination before buying into that scam.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 1/22/2021 5:35:28 PM (No. 670889)
They burn coal and are a toxic nightmare from birth.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
OK state mom 1/22/2021 5:38:42 PM (No. 670891)
My neighbors bought one. It made sense at the time. For work she had to make short trips around the county. She was reimbursed mileage. They got a sizeable rebate and tax rebate making it very inexpensive. Life was good for about a year. Now the battery is dead. It sits under the carport and they put folded up card board boxes in it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
24tea@Mag 1/22/2021 10:49:13 PM (No. 671114)
We know. Tell the libs.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
franq 1/23/2021 7:01:07 AM (No. 671287)
File in the same folder as "Bullet Trains", "Green New Deal", "Solar Farms", and "Windmills". My company was touting these boondoggles big time; not so much lately. We do produce connectors that are used with them. Dollar for dollar, I don't see how they make sense.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
jkb 1/23/2021 8:12:42 AM (No. 671352)
One of my kids had a Prius. Was a great car, perfect condition and a huge money saver while they commuted to college. One day the brake light comes on. Our usual mechanic can't find what the code means. We take it to the dealership. Took them two days to figure out it was a HUGE brake issue. They'd never come across such a thing Something about all the electronics tied into one another... Will cost $5,000(!!!!!!) to repair. We only paid $5k for the car. Donated it and have decided to never buy another electric car.
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In addition to the very short range of EVs, and taking hours to "refuel", they have a very expensive battery, which lasts for a few years, not exactly clear how long.
I will never own an electric car.