The Deliberate Stupidity of
Team Trump

He asks some questions i have asked myself. The forensic issues are not adequately explained by this writer. I do know that in Arizona the elections board has filed a lawsuit to resist the legislative committee’s subpoena. I don’t know that any article i have read explains the attempts to get evidence. I don’t know if the dismissed lawsuits also asked for discovery of evidence. It would be nice to have some information instead of name calling. The only impression i am left with is that there is no remedy for a stolen election. But id like to hear coherent explanation of what should have been done- which would take work- other than just a rant based on reading a few dozen articles and watching a few YouTube vids. PS does this writer know for sure what was in the affidavits attached to the lawsuits?

I wish so many things. I wish the courts would have taken these cases. I wish Rudy had not made a fool of hmself with his hair dye at that first presser. I wish most or all Republicans would back our President right now. I wish some legal authority would interrogate Ruby Freeman and FOX News' Arnod Mishkin to find out who was pulling the strings on this massive conspiracy. I really wish that Pres. Trump somehow, miraculously is able to pull this out, and I really wish we were not on the edge of a bottomless abyss while so many do not even realize it or care that America could be lost.

I don't know, OP, maybe the writer is correct. Put yourself in Trump's shoes. He is 74. Maybe he really doesn't want to be President anymore (been there, done that). Maybe Melania is ready to move on as well. But he feels he has a responsibility to do this . . . or at least pretend to do this. I keep harkening to a Rush Limbaugh piece I caught early in December. He kept getting calls from people who believed the election would be overturned. He said that he had it on good authority that Trump was acknowledging his loss at the WH holiday parties. Melania does seem to have a pleasant smile on her face in most of the photos. She is happy to get back to her normal life.

Here I will have to disagree with OP. I think this author writes with eyes wide open. Many of us have made the same observations. I have written earlier that Rudy was doing the President no favors. So much noise - so much hype - so little evidence in hand. I believe there was massive election and voter fraud. It is beyond frustrating to listen to all the testimony and not see the most powerful cases put before the public. I still believe in miracles. It will take a few to pull a win out of the mess we are looking at now, IMO. Pray for our President! Pray for our nation! Ramona (the Pest)

But. It's Trump. Just sayin.....

Trump could only do so much winning with such a feckless, donor-worshipping, cowardly political party of ours to work with, folks. Look at how Senators had to be nagged & badgered by voters to get out there and take a stand. They did it at the last minute too. The GOPe, former Presidents and federal Deep State have been tripping him up or outright working WITH America’s enemies consistently the last four years. He is still just a man. Still believing God for a miracle - just saying...

Trump and his team should have been demanding - - screaming - - that the physical evidence should be released - - released for forensic examination. All of the physical evidence belongs to the people - - not to the states, the politicians, or the courts. It is OURS! The ballots - - the machines - - the envelopes - - all should be examined - - because we own them - - and because that's where the fraud is. The Trump team's failure to do this seems to be inexplicable. But is there something we aren't being told? Are Trump and his team only faking indignation? And if they are - - why would they do that? Sign me Truly Baffled.

I'd love to see something happen but about every 5-10 days we're told boom or the storm is coming or really exciting things are just a few days away or there's a kraken or etc etc etc. The courts won't touch it. The Congress doesn't have the votes to do anything about it. There are no servers in Germany Uber the control of the good guys, the DNI report was buried, the Hunter laptop died, political types working for Chinese money died, etc etc etc. What exactly is the mechanism to overturn this stolen election at this point? And I completely agree with the author. Giuliani has done a very bad job of it and made an a** of himself and mockery of the process. Why were there no attempts in the first week of November to secure the machines and ballots, envelopes, etc? A child could have figured that out yet not Giuliani's star team.

All of us saw this coming. I still have a hard time believing that Trump didn't. Maybe he thought the courts would step up more. Giuliani, Powell, Wood, these aren't stupid people. What could they possibly feel they could gain by going out there and making unprovable accusations?

While I wish this would have been resolved November 4 by the elected representatives in the different questionable states, things are not as simple as we think, and Rudy Giuliani and others are doing far more than I'm doing to save my country. Just sayin. . ., and I wonder what the author has done except write about it all. Again, just sayin. . .

Mayor Giuliani and team have never lost a court case. They have been denied access to the legal process by partisan judges who violated their judicial cannons and never required the defendants to show cause for dismissal. The judge is supposed to assume the plaintiffs presentation of affidavits and exhibits is true and schedule a hearing for the defendants to respond. At this point the judge can dismiss the case or schedule a trial. This never happened for the three or four cases that Giuliani presented or the other peripheral cases that were presented in MI, GA, PA, and WI. They actually did have a favorable ruling by the WI Supreme Court that stated the Indefinitely Confined status and no-identification rules should not have been granted for people who feared getting COVID. Volunteers in WI have proved that more than 100,000 votes were illegally cast by these cheats. To date no court has actually ruled on the merits of the mountains of video, forensic analysis of Dominion machines, eye witness affidavits that demonstrated violation of election poll watching laws, and detailed data analysis show the impossibility of legitimate vote spikes in PA, GA, MI, and AZ. This includes confirmed lists of dead, illegal, non-resident, and duplicate voters in multiple states. Its easy to blame Mayor Giuliani's team because every Monday-morning quarterback wants to find a Jonah for failure. The fact is justice in this country is not blind and in most states is blatantly political. Powerful corporate and politically entrenched people colluded to get Trump by any means necessary even if it violated the basic tenants of the 4th and 14th Amendments of the Constitution. The votes in the swing states were corrupted by illegal ballot stuffing practices and never should have been certified by the state officials. This is the true failure of the election process. Any other casting of aspersions on the valiant efforts of Mayor Giuliani to stand almost alone to defend his client, the President, is despicable and shameful.

The problem from day 1 is that to win in court, one has to be able to quantify the problem, and Giuliani's team failed to do so in every case filed. If one loses by 10,000 votes, one has to show that a net of 10,001 votes for your opponent were improper. In no case did they prove this. That there was fraud on many fronts is obvious, but none of the scores of affidavits serves the judicial quantification requirement. This is why court after court was not willing to hear the evidence. Trump most likely had between 350 and 400 electoral votes had the election been honest. Sadly instead, the possibility looms large now that two unqualified, incompetent, brainless, raving liars will be sworn in on January 20. It is very discouraging.

Why do we pretend that a criminal investigation should easily be accomplished within the straight-jacket timeline of our Constitution? It won't be and may not even be possible before Biden is sworn AT, I mean, IN. We will likely never be able to prove what we know to be true as to election fraud. All the more reason to appoint a special prosecutor to finish the investigation after Jan 20th.

I've gotta ad one more thing. There is really no doubt that Penns violated the US Constitution by "amending" election law the way it did. Judge Alito said in an October 2020 opinion that he thought the plaintiffs in the intial law suit would win if the the US Sup CT took the case up. I've already forgotten what happened, other than Penns violated an order of the US Sup Ct when Penns failed to segregate ballots. I think all the evidence was put before the various courts in the form of affidavits, which are evidence for all preliminary hearings. I don't know what happened. Maybe some day somebody will tell the story coherently. This writer sure didn't. if your gang robs 20 convenience stores at once, maybe nobody gets caught. Rob one, and the whole gang will get caught.

Trump will win.

Alas, much of what happened was not only predictable, but was predicted by Trump himself, The litigation against mail voting and suspect voting machines should have been filed months before the election. Experts should have filed affidavits, completed forensic examinations and been deposed early. The RNC should have had a national national firm on retainer to coordinate it. Charging around with high-profile television lawyers afterwards just makes the whole thing look theatrical and ridiculous. Trump should say as little as possible, but when has he ever done that? So we get a circus performance. So very sad and so unnecessary. We are the Dodgers. The Astros won. Simple, unfair, but permanent.

I do not need to hear from a weak hand right now. Thank you very much!

Things seem bleak. Remember that Trump is a master at waving one hand to get attention while the other hand is busy getting things done

Every single court refused to let them show their evidence. The judges are bought and paid for.

Some of the questions/issues mentioned above were answered at the election fraud hearings held in each state. Guiliani said at one hearing that he is the presidents' personal atty, empowered to represent him in this matter. He would only be able to order a check of machines, examine ballots etc. if given that power by a judge as the result of a lawsuit. Legal cases filed by other team members were dismissed on procedural grounds and NO judge has actually heard the evidence of election fraud in any state. Both the DOJ and FBI received referrals from state legislators in response to the hundreds of affidavits from election observers. We do not know whether or not they have acted on the referrals. Each state has its' own election laws. There is no national election/voting law or national standard other than the specific provisions in our Constitution which establishes the state legislature as the sole authority with the power to create the laws under which a state election is conducted. In the swing states (republican) legislatures delegated their power to (democrat) election officials (governor/secretary of state/attorney general) who then either changed, had a judge change or flat out ignored the election laws on the books creating a framework for fraud/deception in the vote count. For example in PA, mass mail-in voting required a change to the Constitution - a three step process: change passed by legislature, proposed change published in newspapers across the state and voters must approve. The legislature passed the law but, the 2nd and 3rd steps were never completed. The governor instituted mail-in voting anyway. The courts extended the ballot acceptance deadline; the SOS contacted voters in democrat precincts and allowed them to cure/correct incorrect early voted ballots in advance of the election but did not do so in republican precincts. And that does not address the discrepancy between registered voters, ballots mailed out and ballots counted, statistical anomalies or known dead who voted. Technically, the entire mail-in election in PA was illegal. If there is a remedy for this type of crime it is solely in the hands of state legislators. If I understand what I have seen and heard correctly, Guiliani and Jenna are tasked with appealing to republican legislators in each contested state to help them understand what type/how the fraud was committed, hear testimony of the witnesses who signed affadavits and take back their plenary power over the election process in their states to decertify fraudulent vote count, send a slate of electors for the correct winner then, write the laws that will correct the fraud in the voting process and punish violators. Keep in mind, the machines, ballots, tabulators etc. are under the control of election officials almost all of whom are democrats or rinos. And, they are fighting tooth and nail to keep them out of the hands of investigators. Sidney Powell was granted access to Dominion machines and tabulators in Antrim County, Michigan after a resident filed a successful election fraud lawsuit on a different matter. Read about it here: https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/12/antrim-county-judge-release-election-results-dominion/6520916002/ . Jovan Pulitzer was granted access to scan original ballots at the 12/30-20 hearing in GA after (1) he showed legislators the ballots sent to republican districts were intentionally mis-marked to be rejected by the tabulator and sent to an adjudicator and (2) his staff successfully hacked into the voting system by wifi and (3) traced its' two-way connection to a server overseas - all of this while the hearing was in progress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JFInO1n9Dw (his testimony only). To date, there has been no notice of an actual scan date or results of a scan. Watching the testimony from each of the hearings, would be time-consuming but, worthwhile. Listen while surfing or working around the house. Hearings were held in PA, WI, MI, AZ, NV and GA. If you can only watch a few, watch the hearing in Michigan, the 2nd hearing in PA and 12-30-20 Georgia hearing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjbAFuoQOvo . Right Side Broadcasting covered the hearings and may have them on the youtube channel or website. More Links to info about the statistical Anomalies and other election fraud: https://stream.org/everything-you-need-to-know-about-2020-election-fraud-but-the-media-wont-let-you-ask/ https://www.ntd.com/phill-kline-new-amistad-project-election-lawsuit-500-million-to-increase-votes-in-democratic-strongholds_545391.html https://www.ntd.com/georgia-election-data-shows-17650-votes-switched-from-trump-to-biden-data-scientists_548107.html

#17, totally agree. You don't start fighting these things after the election! Where were the republicans when these actions re the mailed ballots were being taken? Asleep at the wheel....this is a disaster, and it's the republicans fault. It was a great country....

And by procedural I mean, one judge who dismissed a case on the ground of "laches". He/she ruled they waited too long to file suit and should have brought their case before the election - like they would know exactly what type of fraud would occur and where in that state. No doubt, if they had done so, he/she would have ruled it was too early or they had no standing.

Wait a minute. Knight rehashes known and tired claims of bad lawyering in the crisis at hand and then raises the testimony of Pulitzer and ballot shredding as if THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT PROOFS TO CONSIDER. Excuse me? What ***about*** Pulitzer, stupido! What about the claim! Why didn't Knight go get Pulitzer and reveal his claims? He's the stinkin "journalist." You raise ballot shredding(!!!!) and fail to condemn it or touch on the implication!!!! The implication is

...the implication is YOU'RE DESTROYING EVIDENCE!!!! WTH!!!!

The problem isn’t that team Trump lacked the chops - the problem is the courts in America have been compromised by forced from China, Soros - it’s very apparent to anyone paying attention. They’ve had Roberts by the cojones since Obamacare. We’re in deep trouble, people.

I see some "naysayer" responses here about Donald Trump and I am disgusted. I am so tired of so-called conservatives on this website asking where the bombshell is, where is the kraken, etc., etc. Either you are a Democrat, liberal, or Never Trumper. If not one of these, I have to consider limp-wristed. Who on earth would show their WHOLE hand in order for ALL to see? I would consider that person confused. Otherwise, the enemy (the person or persons doing the evil) would see too.

All I can say is that our family got more, lots more, phone calls after the election to send money to the lawyers than we received calls asking to vote for Trump prior to the election.

With the msdnc as their P.R. branch, the dim-0s are a hard bunch to beat. It takes a blue dress to bust them.

Giuliani critics: name the case where evidence was heard. Name trial or shut up. You're adding weight to the burden of saving the country from pretending that reality can be created, not observed

#17 and #22: Trump's lawyers DID try to stop the steal before it happened, and the courts told them you can't do anything because no crime has been committed (yet). Now after rampant fraud, the courts are telling them that they don't have standing to bring a case. So my question is this: If a citizen (Lin Wood) doesn't have standing, if states (TX, et al) don't have standing, and the executive branch doesn't have standing, then who the hell DOES have standing? Some illegal alien????

All I can say, after reading these posts, is “Wow.” Just...wow. The majority of opinion on this thread is why conservatives lose in the mainstream culture and politics.

I agree with #1, “ The only impression i am left with is that there is no remedy for a stolen election.” And now that the leftists know this, they are going to run the table everywhere. Sorry Mr. Franklin, we could not keep the republic.

This has never been a legal issue. It is a political issue. The relief sought by the Trump campaign was never in the judicial branch. They were even told that by more than one Federal judge, including one who was a Trump appointee. But, being a businessman, and having a scad of lawyers at work, everything became a legal issue for litigation - it's all they know. From Nov 7th PDT himself should have been out front, demanding corrective action to this travesty by the state legislatures and Congress. He basically conceded the field to "President-elect Biden". Getting out front on January 6th is a bit late in the game. He lost what momentum and enthusiasm he could have mustered immediately after the election. A grievous political mistake...hardly 3-D chess. #27 - As for being "digusted", so am I, by cheerleaders trying to minimize thoughtful posts that may not square with their views by namecalling or other means. This place is, as I have understood for many years, a salon to exchange views. Most of us are in general agreement on most issues. But to express an opinion that may not agree with the orthodoxy around here...the responses are straight "cancel culture" behavior. And I've had enough as this seems to be a growing trend here. But, then, it's easier than thinking. "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

From the moment that fraud was detected and the voting machines were found to be programmable and on-line, Martial Law should have been declared and the election should have been repeated - in-person paper ballots and registered US citizen voters only. All states engaged in fraud should have immediately lost their right to control a national election. If Biden honestly won the first time, he should have logically won the second time, which we ALL know is not possible. The lawsuits were repetitive but obvious tampering should have been enough to at least analyze the procedures. The Supreme Court will pay the price for their cowardice by losing their place in the government. So, eventually, will Congress. Dictators do not share power. The writer may be overstating the incompetence of the lawyers but the results so far are proving him right.

Poster #31, Wow, just wow was also in my head after reading some of the posts, but I decided to take a different route in my response. You're spot on!

I don't remember who was being interviewed, but someone on the radio mentioned that the problem was that the fraud was so overwhelming and the legal team had trouble handling it all. I think part of it is bad project management. They should have identified, listed, categorized, prioritized and delegated. I don't know who was managing it, but they obviously were not up to the task.