Black Caucus chair Rep. Joyce
Beatty: Police could ‘shoot in
the air’ to stop would-be killers
Law Enforcement Today,
by
Lizzy Murica
Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac,
4/26/2021 10:39:57 AM
COLUMBUS, OH – The Chair of the Congressional Black Caucus has joined hordes of untrained armchair quarterbacks, in order to render her opinion on police procedure after the officer-involved shooting of Ma’Khia Bryant.
In Columbus, Ohio on April 20, 2021, Officer Nicholas Reardon had to make a split second decision to intervene as Ma’Khia Bryant rushed toward her potential victim with a knife, after ignoring lawful orders to “get down.” Reardon fired his pistol, striking Bryant and ending the attack.
Aid was rendered at the scene, but Bryant was later pronounced dead at a nearby hospital.
Neighbors reported that Bryant “was in full attack mode” and also said:
Reply 1 - Posted by:
volksford 4/26/2021 10:45:24 AM (No. 767449)
Side splitting entertainment from morons.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
reefdiver 4/26/2021 10:49:33 AM (No. 767453)
Warning shots not allowed, first, they would not stop a crazy from killing and second, the "warning" shot may wind up hitting someone blocks away.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MOBeef4u 4/26/2021 10:52:05 AM (No. 767457)
The officer did shoot “in the air”, the air between himself and the crazed maniac with a knife, with the correct result. Case closed.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Nimby 4/26/2021 10:52:07 AM (No. 767458)
Hectoring by people hiding behind fences guarded by National guards
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 4/26/2021 10:52:48 AM (No. 767460)
Insanity. And the bullet will land somewhere, perhaps injuring an innocent person. Absolutely the stupidest idea ever.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
seamusm 4/26/2021 10:53:18 AM (No. 767461)
But just maybe we could get lucky when the bullet came down....................
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Hazymac 4/26/2021 10:58:50 AM (No. 767469)
Col. Jeff Cooper's Roles of Gun Safety:
1.) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2.) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3.) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it.
What Rep. Beatty calls for is a violation of the last of Col. Jeff Cooper's Four Rules of Gun Safety. Firing up into the air--Saddam Hussein style--can kill someone a long way away. Even pResident Zhou Xiden said to shoot up into the air in self defense. Only a fool who doesn't know anything about firearms would say that.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
klezmer 4/26/2021 11:00:19 AM (No. 767472)
Many of you missed the light pole at the end of the driveway. I would have shot at the light pole, causing the bullet to ricochet towards the woman. Having lost most of its energy, it would have hit her in the head, knocking her out. Problem solved!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/26/2021 11:01:16 AM (No. 767473)
Fools. Bullets end up landing somewhere. My windshield was hit one New Year’s Eve. The car was on my driveway, in the back of the property next to the garage. These foolishly shot bullets have killed innocent persons.
Both of Bryant’s parents have rap sheets for various crimes - lots of domestic abuse and violence. This is not a very classy blog but the information is backed up by screen shots of actual records…
https://turtleboysports.com/turns-out-makhia-bryants-parents-are-both-criminals-and-her-dad-was-the-guy-in-the-video-kicking-the-chick-on-the-ground-before-she-got-shot/
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Italiano 4/26/2021 11:08:02 AM (No. 767484)
The existing policy seems to be working just fine right now. Taking violent, homicidal dirtbags off the board.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/26/2021 11:20:02 AM (No. 767496)
Well idiot Democrats are known for not believing in law and order.... even laws of physics.
Maybe she believes in magic bullets that just disappear or that they have parachutes like mini space capsules perhaps?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Highlander 4/26/2021 11:21:15 AM (No. 767498)
These bLACK politicians make the best Monday morning arm-chair quarterbacks.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
downnout 4/26/2021 11:24:24 AM (No. 767505)
Has this lunatic ever heard of gravity? (You know, that funny science thing about what goes up must come down..)
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Jennie C. 4/26/2021 11:30:20 AM (No. 767509)
Yeah, and just kill some random person instead. What if that person is black?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Hazymac 4/26/2021 11:35:23 AM (No. 767514)
Thanks to #9 for that fascinating link. Good "get." It's so frustrating that people believe propaganda from approved legacy media outlets, are fooled, and behave as the controllers want them to. In the meantime, what is actually happening is available to those who are discriminating--less pervious to BS--to those who dig for the truth.
Speaking of dig, I dig many here, none more than Earlybird. We're here to learn from good teachers.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 4/26/2021 11:38:53 AM (No. 767518)
Shooting in the air is extremely dangerous due to the force of gravity. What goes up must come down.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 4/26/2021 11:45:57 AM (No. 767528)
Poster #13, gravity? dontcha know? Gravity is a systemic racist concept discovered by a White dude named Newton. So all these 'woke' folk don't need to believe in it.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Toby Ten Bears 4/26/2021 11:46:27 AM (No. 767529)
Can't think of a better way to actually get killed!!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 4/26/2021 11:49:29 AM (No. 767532)
Is she related to Hank Johnson or Sheila Jackson Lee?
If brains were dynamite, these three couldn’t blow their noses.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 4/26/2021 11:49:35 AM (No. 767533)
Gunfire is omnipresent in inner-city Chicago and other major "no-go zones" in America. Leftist liberalism has created a law enforcement resistant strain of feral youth synonymous with hospital-born staphylococcus bacteria, which laughs at once deadly penicillin.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
hershey 4/26/2021 11:51:05 AM (No. 767536)
Stupid....stupid...where does the bullet end up? Stupid stupid stupid...
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
DVC 4/26/2021 11:53:45 AM (No. 767539)
While absolutely no question that shooting in the air is stupid, and dangerous. There is a bit of factual news to pass along.
The US Army was using machine guns as light artillery in WW1, raking enemy trenches at 3000+ yards, several miles, where the bullets were deadly. When the ground forces came under attack by aircraft, the troops fired back...and the Army was concerned about the danger to Allied troops when the bullets came down. So, they did testing. They fired machine guns (.30-06, very powerful rifles) nearly straight up on a piece of deserted coastline, in a adjustable tripod, rigidly mounted. They began to see the bullets coming down in the water, and adjusted the angle steeper to make the bullets land ever closer, firing short bursts. Eventually they were dropping bullets into the sand nearby where they could observe them, and let them hit various test materials.
When fired DIRECTLY upwards, meaning essentially perfectly 90 degrees so the bullet lands very close to the firing point, the bullet remains spinning, stops while pointed upwards, and falls, still spinning like a top, and lands base first with modest velocity, will dent wood slightly. BUT aim any significant angle away from exactly straight up and the bullet will describe an arc, land point first with significant velocity, and will be dangerous.
Bottom Line:
Yes, there is a small zone at absolutely straight up (not easily achieved) where the fall is not very harmful, but all lower angles are dangerous, the lower the more dangerous. Idiots firing in the air on New Years are often firing far away from the pure vertical, creating danger far, far away. Don't fire in the air.
See: Hatcher's Notebook.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Proud Texan 4/26/2021 12:06:59 PM (No. 767550)
They DO shoot into the air. There is almost always air between the cops and the dangerous SOB that needs killed to save a good person's life.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 4/26/2021 12:18:30 PM (No. 767559)
Here's my question - - -
If the police shoot into the air - - who gets to keep the duck?
Especially if the duck comes down and gives them $50?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
john56 4/26/2021 12:21:14 PM (No. 767560)
I remember a story many years ago about a New Years Eve in the city where I lived. In one neighborhood, it was a habit to shoot bullets into the air to celebrate the arrival of the new year.
That New Years Eve, a bullet fell, striking an 8 year old boy squarely on his head, killing him instantly. The police were never able to find the source of the shot, which they speculated could have been blocks away.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
mc squared 4/26/2021 12:23:22 PM (No. 767561)
Shooting in the air is never a good idea as many stated, but we're missing the point. In the time it takes for a cop to size up the situation at hand, the victim of the knife attack could have been split open from stem to stern. A falling bullet is somewhat secondary.
Ask the attackee or her mom how she feels about 'air shooting'
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IDA m, well I’d say the secret word...he was a master.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
NYbob 4/26/2021 12:24:49 PM (No. 767565)
Thank you rats and RINO voters of Ohio. This idiot represents you very accurately.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
janjan 4/26/2021 12:26:51 PM (No. 767567)
Yet another moron who thinks they’re an expert on policing. The Democrats in DC might want to have a quiet chat with these lunatics.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Hazymac 4/26/2021 12:41:56 PM (No. 767577)
Re #22: Absolutely correct. Even correct from the standpoint of physics.
But when idiots fire at closer to the proper angle for a track and field competition discus or shot (32-37 degrees), or, more likely, at some angle closer to horizontal--the bullet isn't traveling straight down*--it might fatally impact something downrange. As a for instance, I've seen demonstrations of 9mm pistol bullets going deep into gel blocks at more than a quarter mile distance. So it's not the gravity that kills, it's the remaining forward velocity. Some of those bullets, particularly from a rifle, can go a ways.
*Arnold Palmer, playing as always in front of a large crowd, pondering how to play his next stroke, bent down, took a few blades of grass from the fairway, held them up, let them go, and watched them drift down in no apparent wind. Some low information galleryite spoke through the silence, "Which way's the wind blowing, Arnie?" Palmer, not smiling, said, "Straight down." There were some giggles.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
BarryNo 4/26/2021 12:43:10 PM (No. 767579)
I;m surprised they don't mandate the first three bullets loaded in a gun be blanks.
Shooting live ammo kills people when it his, and kills people when it misses. I'd say half the casualties in any big city come when gang-bangers miss their targets and hit bystanders. What do you want, lame brains? More innocent deaths, from gun violence? Hypocrites!! A body shot tends to contain the bullet to the perp rather than let it fly free to whomever.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Laotzu 4/26/2021 12:47:05 PM (No. 767584)
Or, here's an idea. They could shout "stop" or "drop the knife!" Oh wait, they did. . . .
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
jgboswellmd 4/26/2021 1:06:09 PM (No. 767599)
evidently she thinks the bullet goes up into outer space and does not realize what goes up, comes down and at a fatal rate of speed.
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There is another point. They keep saying "knife fights." It is not a "knife fight" when only one person has a knife! Somebody has remarked that this is like saying Lincoln was killed in a gunfight with John Wilkes Booth.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
tsquare 4/26/2021 1:21:21 PM (No. 767622)
This is really a special kind of stupid
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
paral04 4/26/2021 1:34:40 PM (No. 767631)
And what happens to the innocent bystander that gets hit when the bullet is coming down.? That girl asked for trouble when she wielded a knife on another girl. She got what she was looking for and that was trouble. She won't be doing that anymore. People like her only get worse as they get older and we need to thank the police officer for getting her off the streets.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Hazymac 4/26/2021 1:37:09 PM (No. 767635)
Remember Harvey Logan's "Rules in a knife fight? No rules!" exclamation to Butch Cassidy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KBOhPXhds
My roommate in University of Virginia forty-seven years ago told me an anecdote about the Murder City USA of the time, Detroit. In one of the city's fine institutes of learning, a high school, a hood waited until between classes to accost another happening along, late for class, when he sprang his robbery and pulled a knife. As he (black) backed his victim against a wall, the other student (white), the intended victim pulled a .38 revolver and ended the encounter with one round to the cabeza.
Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
slsusnr 4/26/2021 2:02:33 PM (No. 767673)
#19 Yessss! I was thinking of Hank Johnson as well. Just when I thought nobody could be that stupid, along comes this moron. These fools represent us in our government. Lord help this country.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Foont 4/26/2021 2:26:33 PM (No. 767711)
Just ensure all police weapons are loaded only with blanks. That way, when they fire, the criminals and lunatics will be signaled when to begin.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
JrSample 4/26/2021 2:38:44 PM (No. 767721)
...or black criminals could refrain from robbing, stabbing, or shooting people. There, problem solved. You're welcome.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
skacmar 4/26/2021 2:39:01 PM (No. 767723)
The stupid just keeps piling on from the arm chair quarterbacks in this incident. Since everyone is now an expert on how police should respond to incident in the Black community, I guess that there is no more need for police to respond. When they call 911, they can just tell them what to do. Let the fight naturally progress and see what happens. Let the victim bleed and wait for the ambulance. Wait for the social worker in a domestic situation. The possibilities are endless. This will save on police calls and will save the police from being accused of shooting or needlessly killing people as they are doing it themselves. And since they are busy killing themselves, it will all be ok and nobody will seem to mind the carnage to follow in the black community. Black politicians, activists, and BLM should then be happy.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Clinger 4/26/2021 2:39:46 PM (No. 767728)
I guess she has a point, in some neighborhoods there is a chance that when gravity returns the bullet to earth it may very well kill a would be killer.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
Pete Stone 4/26/2021 4:28:44 PM (No. 767833)
I remember an Oakland (CA) cop saying several years ago that at midnight on New Year's Eve. the police in patrol cars tried to be under a freeway overpass to get out of the lead rain that would fall on the city as idiots would ring in the new year with their firearms.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
rabblerouser 4/26/2021 4:30:04 PM (No. 767835)
Ya'll just really need to shut up now, BLM. You have demonstrated to all but the slowest individual that your "movement" is not about black lives mattering. Why's the girl in pink that almost got stabbed getting death threats? She's black.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
red1066 4/26/2021 4:39:49 PM (No. 767843)
What goes up, must come down. Apparently this idiot can't grasp that concept.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
govlawyer 4/26/2021 4:45:36 PM (No. 767852)
And using aerosol unicorn farts will also soothe the raging beasts or beastettes.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
smokincol 4/26/2021 5:01:34 PM (No. 767870)
have you ever tried it you idiot? it's like igniting the afterburners on an F16 fighter jet
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
MickTurn 4/26/2021 5:32:59 PM (No. 767900)
AND the bullet comes down where??? Hopefully on the head of a Democrap politician!
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 4/26/2021 5:34:57 PM (No. 767904)
Bonk on a BLM protester thug as gravity does it’s work! Elmer Fudd style!
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Goose 4/27/2021 9:48:58 AM (No. 768449)
I'm so old, I can remember warnings about the danger of firing guns in the air to celebrate the new year.
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