In Praise of Ties
Substack,
by
Don Surber
Original Article
Posted By: Judy W.,
3/20/2024 9:41:47 AM
The first thing I notice when I watch a black-and-white TV show on one of the rerun networks is the ties. In the 1950s, every man wore a tie. The milkman wore a tie. The mailman wore a tie. The policeman wore a tie. Even Elvis wore a tie on occasion. Chuck Berry always wore a tie. Gas station attendants wore them. (Snip) Men wore ties to ballgames because men were civilized.
Ties were important because they gave a sense of authority but ties also showed that a man wants to belong in society. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Eat to please thyself, but dress to please others.”
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
MickTurn 3/20/2024 10:08:20 AM (No. 1681527)
I have about a hundred ties I don't use anymore, I'm RETIRED RETIRED. Anyone want them?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
chumley 3/20/2024 10:10:21 AM (No. 1681530)
Lets not forget hats. Before my time every man wore a hat. It might be a fedora, a bowler, a cowboy hat or a newsboy cap but everyone wore something. By the time my 60's generation grew up that was pretty much over.
His article mostly covers chastity though. I notice those who are most in favor of chastity are those who already sowed their wild oats and have pretty well aged out of the market.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MrDeplorable 3/20/2024 10:10:25 AM (No. 1681531)
What a great idea! You know, I heard something about people used to have “necktie parties,” which I don’t know whst they were but I think we should have one for Joe Biden.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
columba 3/20/2024 10:11:38 AM (No. 1681534)
I got a job in Reno. Within days I had a problem with ne of the supevisors. The day after I began wearing a tie. I ended up being one of the most sought after person around.
PS: I went to a thrift store and bought up a lot of ties.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
stablemoney 3/20/2024 10:20:50 AM (No. 1681546)
We are a third world country now, with people from everywhere dressing according to their culture. A suit and tie is discriminatory to them, and racist.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Axeman 3/20/2024 10:40:52 AM (No. 1681558)
I love dressing in a suit and tie. Any time I can do that means I am not doing anything that will damage my clothing.
Those times are extremely rare in my life so I dress in durable, practical clothing.
In my oh so unassuming opinion, clothes should match what they are need for.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Sanddollar 3/20/2024 10:54:39 AM (No. 1681574)
I dress up for church where most wear business casual to casual. One time remember overhearing a conversation by two women as I walked by that those "dressing up" for church are showing off. I don't know if they were referring to me or not. I don't want to buy dress down clothes for church, and since my job requires professional dress, I wear that to chruch. I really don't care what one wears to church but I do think holey jeans and shorts are going too far down the casual lane. We don't live in a hot area and the church has air-conditioning.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
texaspast 3/20/2024 10:59:02 AM (No. 1681579)
And a woman was not 'dressed up' without a hat and gloves. My grandmother, a hard-working farm woman, always wore a hat and white gloves to her country church. Of course, she may have worn the gloves to hide some of the effects of being a hard-working farm woman. The church I went to as a child did not have air conditioning. The men would still wear suits to church in the summer.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
harold2002 3/20/2024 11:03:29 AM (No. 1681584)
Please...ties?!? Low self esteem leads to slovenly dress and appearance. Cultural beliefs in "oppression" will do the same. Our country is in grave peril from the actions of the political left (esp. Barack Obama, the shadow president) and you want to talk ties. Please focus elsewhere.
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Every job I had starting in 1985 when I graduated college required slacks and a tie. I’ve been in my current job 28 years and was required to wear a jacket and tie in the office. Then company dress code relaxed to collared shirt and slacks with Casual Fridays and jeans. Now, it’s whatever. I still wear a collared shirt and tie and people ask me why I’m “dressed up.”
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
jar 3/20/2024 12:20:52 PM (No. 1681630)
As probably one of the few commenters here who actually dated in the 1950's, those five items are not at all true of the dating scene of seventy years ago. I am a woman and always ordered for myself back then. Other items in the list are also erroneous assumptions that I won't take up space to argue. I will comment on chastity. This was an era of hypocrisy that would take thousands of words to describe. Men were told the ideal was to marry a virgin, but on the side they had other options. Women did not.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
PrayerWarrior 3/20/2024 12:22:53 PM (No. 1681634)
At our house, we love to watch old movies of the 1930s, 1940s where the men and women wore hats, and women wore furs and suits. We like that stylized look. We want that style to come back! It made everyone look fantastic, rich, and wonderful. Even today in the Black churches women and men dress up like that. Why can't the protestant churches dress up more? A lot of churches today, people dress like they are going to the beach instead of going to the Church of GOD! Somehow they have forgotten to have the reverence of God and remember they are walking into the presence of God when they go to church.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 3/20/2024 1:01:58 PM (No. 1681666)
Poster #8, your post reminded me of something I was told by a salesman at a store I used to work at many, many years ago. He was from a rural community in Eastern Washington and he told us that when farmers went to town to buy something, they were never judged by what they wore, the sales people would look to see what his wife was wearing. In those days people didn't go to town everyday of week but once or twice a month so the women would dress up for the occasion.
Also, I have a picture of my grandparents and my 3yr. old mother and her baby sister taken around 1930. My grandmother was beautifully dressed even with a small fur around her shoulders and the children had on really cute dresses. My grandfather? Bib overalls with a cigar in his mouth.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
varkdriver 3/20/2024 1:07:27 PM (No. 1681667)
Every time I have worn a tie in recent years has been successful. The traffic court judge has always said, "I find you not guilty of this offense, but guilty of lookin' good!"
Portions of the preceding may, or may not have actually occurred
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
red1066 3/20/2024 1:43:10 PM (No. 1681687)
#2 There's an old photo at our church of the congregation taken in 1917. Everyone, and I mean everyone, men, women, and children had a hat on. Looks like over 200 people in the photo.
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I'm sure some liberal somewhere thinks wearing a tie is racist.
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