Winner of the DeSantis-Haley Debate
Real Clear Politics,
by
Tom Bevan
Original Article
Posted By: Moritz55,
1/11/2024 8:56:48 AM
After two hours of going at each other with hammer and tong, there was a clear winner at the debate between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley at Drake University last night sponsored by CNN. But he wasn’t in the building.
Instead, Donald Trump was across town, speaking at a town hall hosted by a different cable network, floating the tantalizing claim that he has already chosen his running mate.
If it seems brazen to make an announcement before the first primary season votes have been cast, there’s a reason: With less than a week before the Iowa caucuses, Trump maintains
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Marzipan4 1/11/2024 9:17:15 AM (No. 1633842)
Uggggh, I feel like I’ve been trapped in a long car ride of campaigning. I’ll be first to say, are we there yet?
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Kate318 1/11/2024 9:19:14 AM (No. 1633844)
Glad I “missed” it. It sounds pathetic. A debate between two people spouting their handlers’ talking points. I could care less about Haley, but I am sad about DeSantis. He had so much potential until the Karl Rove crowd got their hooks into him.
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janjan 1/11/2024 10:55:33 AM (No. 1633938)
If I had been watching this, and I didn’t, I wouldn’t have lasted 10 minutes. I’m not interested in their petty bickering. I’m interested in what’s going to be done to fix the entire cluster you know what that Biden made of this country. He barely gets mentioned by anyone besides Trump. They’re too busy trying to kill off each other. Most people hate this and it does not win them any respect. Waste of time.
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TXknitter 1/11/2024 11:05:31 AM (No. 1633947)
I made no effort to watch this LIVE either. Late last night, I decided to watch the replay. I lasted 20 minutes or so. Two greedy politicians fighting over donor money. Each had Bush-Rove talking points to aim at each other. They are not patriots deeply concerned about America. It was really sad to see Governor DeSantis continuing this embarrassing campaign of his —
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jasonB 1/11/2024 11:18:59 AM (No. 1633962)
Maybe it would have been "more entertaining" if the ex president wasn't afraid to get on stage and actually defend his record with a competent opponent?
If Trump wins the nomination, it will be rather humorous as he screams that "Corrupt, Sleepy Joe is too afraid to debate him!". Because, I can guarantee the instant that he would get the nomination, every poll you see with him ahead of Biden will flip within a day.
And everyone of your favorite MAGA influencers will twist themselves in to a pretzel as to why Joe is now a coward.
We will know if any poll is to be believed this time next week. But surely, the same news orgs that LIED to you about every aspect of Trump's presidency wouldn't lie to you now about a poll?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 1/11/2024 12:08:18 PM (No. 1634008)
Well who wouldn't just love to have some slash-tongue woman for a "president?" /s Girls fight, but they go pout for a month. Guys fight, then go smoke cigars in a bachelor dive for hours.
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Kate318 1/11/2024 3:19:05 PM (No. 1634159)
Trump may be a lot of things, #5, but coward isn’t one of them, and your talking points make no sense.
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jasonB 1/11/2024 4:30:28 PM (No. 1634219)
#7 Yeah its a Salon. I do respond however. I can type, them, more. Slowly. If. You . Need. Me. To.
MAGA loves Trump. Any other demographic, proven by multiple elections, LOATHES the man. They turn out in record numbers anytime his name is attached to a candidate. This isn't polls. This is election RESULTS. I now, they are all stolen. yawn, find new material.
I voted for him twice (2x). I was able to overlook many shortcomings as he was the (I thought) better choice. Defended so much of the craziness.
The lies, the blaming EVERYONE else, the lazy campaign, because he's 'entitled' to it, the failure to acknowledge ANY missteps. Actual peoples lives were destroyed by those 'mistakes'. His lurch to the left on every issue. Those indictments (yeah most are BS, some aren't so shaky) may rile up his base, however, the majority of Reps and Ind's have already stated they are a huge NO for a candidate.
I have walked away. The mood for a sizable online presence (always a shaky metric) is in a similar place. A 5-10% loss of Rep votes is a death sentence to any candidate. I do speak to actual other people that have as well. If he is the nominee, enjoy him. I suspect it will be a Mondale like loss for the republicans.
P.S. A coward is someone who won't confront an opponent to their face. Sure swims like a duck.
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Kate318 1/11/2024 8:47:30 PM (No. 1634366)
Blah, blah, blah, #8. No one is falling for the “I voted for him twice” BS. Your hatred is palpable and in keeping with the most an ardent anti-Trumper. You’re not fooling anyone. Toddle on back to the Puffington Host or National Review. You can still whistle past the Trump graveyard with your fantasies of how much everyone outside of MAGA hates the man. Perhaps some further research into recent demographic polling might help. hope. You. Can. Understand. This.
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