Are Universities Doomed?
Real Clear Politics,
by
Victor Davis Hanson
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
12/22/2022 11:43:53 PM
In a famous exchange in the The Sun Also Rises, Ernest Hemingway wrote: "How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually, then suddenly."
"Gradually" and "suddenly" applies to higher education's implosion.
During the 1990s "culture wars" universities were warned that their chronic tuition hikes above the rate of inflation were unsustainable.
Their growing manipulation of blanket federal student loan guarantees, and part-time faculty and graduate teaching assistants always was suicidal.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
MrDeplorable 12/23/2022 12:29:16 AM (No. 1363034)
Classic VDH: Simple, logical, irrefutable!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
smokincol 12/23/2022 2:02:41 AM (No. 1363054)
first, the ones in the Northeast and the West Coast and then the ones that have slain the concept of Freedom, in all respects and that would be the majority of the leftovers
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Highlander 12/23/2022 2:43:52 AM (No. 1363061)
This brings to mind a scene from “The Jungle Book” movie where there is shown a magnificent temple complex, long abandoned and in ruins, inhabited by a horde of monkeys, that have no thought about the lost glorious history of the place.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
feet2fire 12/23/2022 5:26:59 AM (No. 1363086)
Attended the graduation events at a liberal arts college last spring. A friend's daughter was in the class...what amazed me most was that the majority of grads were cum laude, magna cum laude, and summa cum laude. Talk about watered down! My favorite part was when one of the grads accepted his diploma wearing a mask over his mouth but not his nose. Probably a pre-med guy.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
5 handicap 12/23/2022 5:38:46 AM (No. 1363087)
There are very few who can disagree with the Good Doctor and those who do are imbeciles!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Subsuburban 12/23/2022 6:09:32 AM (No. 1363091)
My alma mater, Notre Dame University just hit the $80,000.00 annual expense level. This from the university that spawned the execrable Jenny Durkin, mayor of Seattle and the even more reprehensible Nikole Hannah-Jones, authoress of "The 1619 Project," a concoction of lies spun around a racist black revenge fantasy. In my opinion, this university is already finished. However, like a decapitated chicken, it is still moving around in a spastic reaction until finally falling quietly dead.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DW626 12/23/2022 6:42:07 AM (No. 1363099)
My personal opinion is that the public schools K-12 are, and have been, for decades, intentionally dumbing down their teachers and students therefore necessitating a college degree, at great coast, to teach the basic essentials students should’ve been taught at the K-12 level instead of furthering one's career goals and ambitions.
This increased the need for the middle classes to seek college education. Hence enrollment goes up and money comes pouring in.
The easy US government guaranteed student loans eases that cash flow, and as a feature many in the middle class get burdened with an unsustainable debt they can’t get out of should they ever file for bankruptcy. Essentially enslaving them in a way.
Employers wanted workers with the university degree at entry level jobs because the high school diploma doesn’t cut it with many of them.
It’s become a vicious cycle.
Now the college degree is facing a similar fate?
I dunno, something eventually has to give.
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I think it would be good for America if universities had to go under and rebuild at a modest level.
They would not be able to afford big administrative salaries or be able to hide corruption as easily in a tight budget.
I am to the point of hoping my grandsons opt for trades, rather than go to college and get indoctrinated.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 12/23/2022 7:23:57 AM (No. 1363127)
Sooner or later these centers of indoctrination that are cranking out Zombies with degrees in women and queer studies will begin to empty when folks start going to tooly tech to learn a trade that pays very well. A college degree today is damn near useless but it does put you in debt up to your eyeballs...until the government (me) ends up getting stuck with the tab.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
PCMM 12/23/2022 7:38:31 AM (No. 1363134)
#9
I’ve had highly efficient groups of white men install new flooring and new furnace in recent years. Both groups were from Eastern Europe (not kidding). Young Americans are allergic to labor and would happily accept government assistance if it means they can play video games all day. Just my observation.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
franq 12/23/2022 7:43:59 AM (No. 1363139)
The sooner, the better.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/23/2022 7:44:43 AM (No. 1363140)
Overpriced and underperforming. That normally spells doom for any large organization unless it is government (taxpayer) assisted. We tolerate so many of those, NPR/PBS. The US Postal Service, all public education, US Airlines, GM, Ford, the Leftist media, especially the NYT and the WaPo, the movie industry. Many, many more.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
privateer 12/23/2022 8:32:34 AM (No. 1363175)
FTA: 'Nationwide undergraduate enrollment has dropped by more than 650,000 students in a single year -- or over 4 percent alone from spring 2021 to 2022, and some 14% in the last decade. Yet the U.S. population still increases by about 2 million people a year.' Well, this year the 2 million consist of illegal, invading parasites, drug runners, thieves, rapists and brood sows. They need first grade, not college. No interest in either.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
anniebc 12/23/2022 8:42:06 AM (No. 1363185)
Yes, most of them need to be taken back from the marxists who control them, or we'll find our tax dollars funding them 100% before long. We're now funding the enemedia, so don't say it can't be done.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
udanja99 12/23/2022 9:06:23 AM (No. 1363208)
I certainly hope so. Except for STEM degrees.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
MDConservative 12/23/2022 9:37:40 AM (No. 1363240)
Good gravy, VDH. Get out of that esteemed chair at Stanford and look around a bit. Your university, like others elites, have become class tie mills, not fonts of learning and knowledge. Every cowtown state "university" is begging for students and their tuition money and all else sent with them from the state and federal governments. Overhead costs are immaterial, and employment in these burghs is politically valuable.
Anyone thinking that businesses will test applicant does'nt understand the testing business and validity. These "tests" are a lawyer magnet. No one tests because the courts find in favor of the aggrieved for poor test scores and misapplication to school admission or job entry standards.
The American public sees university educations as vocational schools. It's that simple. The barbarians have long been inside the gates, with some schools now crediting remedial studies toward degrees. Keeps the $$$ in school.
As far as the American male...you've got to be joking. Growing numbers prefer to be either "bachelors" or another/no sex. They cannot form and maintain relationships with the opposite/different sex. They don't want kids to mess up their affluence and "independence." They're all special - ask their parents.
The contemporary idea of Greek civilization is a selfie at the Parthnon and a ferry to Santorini, not Athenian philosophers or valiant Spartans. VDH, you've go to get out more.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bpl40 12/23/2022 9:38:08 AM (No. 1363241)
At least the ones that are not obscenely rich. Shopping malls have been mugged by the Internet. These 'dens of indoctrination' by reality.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 12/23/2022 10:25:38 AM (No. 1363274)
A couple of weeks ago at the local food pantry I was as paired with a young lady of AA descent. We were assigned "eggs and butter" detail. She was energetic and well spoken. Over the course of a couple hours, I learned that she was a high school senior and had been home schooled for the past couple of years. When I asked her plans and interest she said that she wants to enroll in technical training to become a diesel mechanic. I asked if she'd had any college inclinations and she said that college just didn't seem very relevant anymore and that she didn't want to go into debt. Her interest in becoming a diesel mechanic came about because her father has a trucking company. It was a fascinating and enlightening conversation. She seemed to be a kind of daddy's girl but not overtly feminist, explaining that she loved chivalrous treatment of women and wished for its resurgence. She gave me hope in the younger generation!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
privateer 12/23/2022 10:46:54 AM (No. 1363294)
Bless you 18, for your service to your community, and also for your heartening and uplifting story...at a time when such is sorely needed.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
red1066 12/23/2022 11:18:29 AM (No. 1363314)
The vast majority of colleges should be doomed. Better they become trade schools instead. The education provided would be a whole lot more valuable than what's better provided today and it could do so for less money. Right now, college sports provide more value than any education.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
MickTurn 12/23/2022 12:04:20 PM (No. 1363353)
Simple Solution, CUT OFF ALL Leftist run organizations from any grants or student loans. Then fine them Billions to drain their Slush Funds. That will not just get their attention but it will set them on a downward slide they will not be able to stop!
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 12/23/2022 12:32:33 PM (No. 1363377)
For many university degrees the costs in time an money exceeds the benefit of the degree. The universities for many have become an institution for sports and for the employment of administrators.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
PIApilot 12/23/2022 1:17:52 PM (No. 1363401)
After my alumni magazine dedicated to all things "diversity" which meant most was dedicated to the LGBTQ+ people on campus (small acknowledgement of minority engineering programs) I opted to stop donating. The primary reason was the college was going to spend a significant amount of money on a new position for Diversity. I figured if they could afford to do that they didn't need any of my money.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
msjena 12/23/2022 1:28:45 PM (No. 1363406)
Now that universities are supposed to provide job training, it's no surprise that people are finding that they can get job training for a lot cheaper outside of traditional higher education. As for our "elite" institutions, they are failing students by not focusing on the broad liberal education that universities--or at least elite universities--are supposed to provide. That includes studies in areas like history and English as well as the sciences. Of course, those areas have been corrupted by political correctness and "diversity" issues. As for the student loan program, don't get me started. The entire system needs to be scrapped and restructured to provide a moderate portion of help to students who show financial need, with the colleges picking up the rest.
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"Universities," you say. Nope. Try social justice factories, all of them.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Pete Stone 12/23/2022 1:52:06 PM (No. 1363417)
Let 'em fail! The sooner the better.
For thirty years there has been pressure to send people to universities who don't need to and shouldn't go there. I'm not referring just to racial minorities or the sex majority (girls) either. High-school graduates who ought to go to tech schools or get into apprentice programs are being lured instead into liberal-arts majors and deep debt.
Of course this is biting the academics now. Female-majority student bodies are a bad sign -- not because of the presence of the girls but because of the absence of the boys. The nearly one-to-one ratio of administrative staff to enrolled students is another indication of looming failure.
Many colleges try to deal with their financial problems by promoting football and basketball teams. Alumni are persuaded to contribute by having good teams, right? Those alumni are always willing to build a new stadium, field house, or gym, but they're not known for contributing to libraries, classrooms, or research facilities. The tail wags the dog.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Enoch Powell 12/23/2022 2:01:31 PM (No. 1363423)
Well, the fraud has been going on for some time... my Harvard undergrad friends complained of being taught by teaching assistants... my HLS friends said the first year was a little rough but after that, they basically won't let you fail, and that was decades ago... MIT where I worked for many years is much more meritocratic and frankly honest - you can't fake it in STEM classes, but the array of non-essential departments of the DIE sort was (and probably still is) getting staggering.
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DemocRATS love to divide, divide, divide. They just love finding more and more ways to divide us up, and then pit one group against another. They are, after all, the party of segregation and the KKK.
Stanford University, while touting and celebrating ‘diversity’ has developed segregated housing: Ujamaa House is for African-American; Okada House is for Asians; Casa Zapata is for Chicanx and Latinx (99% of Spanish speakers do not like the new Latinx phraseology, and they do not speak Latin either).
The Stanford University website explains: “”Our ethnic theme communities have a rich and long history of engaging students at the highest levels of intellectual discovery and advancing diversity””
‘Advancing diversity’ by segregation. Sounds right out of 1984.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 12/23/2022 3:25:04 PM (No. 1363471)
Let's hope.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 12/23/2022 3:35:52 PM (No. 1363481)
Sorry for the second post.
I taught middle school until recently. Beginning about ten years ago, I stopped recommending college to students. I didn't actively dissuade them, but I asked them what their goals were. Very, very few 8th grade students have a plan more than fifteen minutes from now, but a small number do. I encouraged students to seek out apprenticeships, tech schools, and mentors. I encouraged them to get any job that they could at their age so they can begin to learn the essential skills that productive people cultivate. I stressed reading and writing clearly as THE KEY to learning anything they needed to be successful.
Only 67% of third grade students read on grade level. That means that one-third of our students will likely never read on grade level when they are eligible for graduation. Any elementary school that does not make reading (phonics), spelling, and writing the absolute priority is failing. If you can read, then you can learn math, history, and science. Trust me when I tell you that the reading ability of at least half of students is abysmal. Unless this changes we will continue down the road to Idiocracy.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Agent Orange 12/23/2022 5:25:32 PM (No. 1363526)
Today’s centers for indoctrination, AKA……todays’ colleges and universities, have stolen the future of our once great country. The garbage being spewed out by the communist that occupy academia, are Hell bent on destroying the American Dream.
I never did finish college (three and a half years - 3.95 GPA) as I got tired of the lies and crap that the professors fed us. but every job that I was hired for over the last forty (40) years all required a degree. In some cases, an advanced degree was the primary requirement for the last position I was hired to fill.
When I was hired to be the Associate Curator at the Pacific Aviation Museum in Pearl Harbor, I was up against three museum studies/history PhD’s, two with masters, and me. Where most of the other applicants had the education requirement filled, I had the hands-on-experience, and was hired. So much for the valued college degree.
When I was the President and GM for a French technology company in the late 80s to mid 90s, it was my job to look over the preselected resumes of both engineers and sales staff. I think, for the most part, I could put together and better-looking resume with I was in junior high. The garbage that these applicates submitted should sue their respective centers for higher education for fraud.
My son, decided he wanted to work with his hands and became a journeyman carpenter, and 20 years later, he is a construction superintendent making a six-figure income, doing what he loves to do and now has six (6) weeks’ vacation and a $60k new Ford crew cab pickup every few years.
I could go on forever, but you get the drift.
MSgt USAF (ret)
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 12/25/2022 8:16:31 AM (No. 1364373)
Shut off all taxpayer money. Let the little commies and their Commie Coaches scratch around to feed the beast.
Universities are centers of Satanist evil in the US, as are government buildings.
They should all burn to the ground.
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