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Trump -vs- DeSantis, a Shiny Thing to
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Posted By: Kate318, 11/13/2022 5:01:22 PM

The old axiom where someone yells, “look over there folks, shiny things“… as a process of distraction, is entirely apropos of how corporations that are running our current election systems are using the Trump -v- DeSantis discussion; with the backdrop of the 2022 midterm election as context. So, before moving forward to the heart of what we are being distracted from, check out this article from David Solway, he’s correct. Unless and until the critical issue of “votes” -vs- “ballots” is corrected, pushing DeSantis into the war against the administrative state is akin to throwing a decent general into a lost war.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird 11/13/2022 5:09:26 PM (No. 1332548)
Sundance appears to inch away from his “DeSantis bad” position. Interesting.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rich323 11/13/2022 5:33:09 PM (No. 1332557)
I think their focus is no conservatives will ever win until ballot harvesting is addressed and fixed. Neither Trump or DeSantis could win with the focus on ballot harvesting versus vote getting.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Bmoc 11/13/2022 5:55:32 PM (No. 1332570)
#1 I've been noticing that myself, and I'm not sure why he went all goofy over DeSantis. I read what he said, but I didn't see it as bad as he obviously did. I fled Michigan three days before Christmas last year because I saw the catastrophe coming to my home state of Michigan, and I left before Whitless locked the state down. We had lived in Florida for nine years previously, so I bought a house and took off as fast s my little car could get me here. If the two bull elephants in the room can come together, DeSantis as VP controlling the House, gathering experience in DC, and then taking over for Trump two to four years later, America could be transformed... minus McConnell, Miss Lindsey Grahmnesty, McCarthy, Paul Ryan, and Mittens McGoo, America would truly become Great Again. Just my three cents.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird 11/13/2022 6:16:31 PM (No. 1332580)
Will have to take time to go and reread Sundance’s article, but where he initially fumed in other pieces that DeSantis was knowingly allowing himself to be used by Establishment types, he now seems to have sideslipped to conclusions he previously came to that he may have since found to be faulty. Sounds ready to give benefit of doubt. Must reread. We all need to do that. OFTEN!.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 11/13/2022 6:30:29 PM (No. 1332589)
Agree w all posters. But read the first few comments at the end of his article. Particularly alluding to Dems “letting” ’Repubs win some races to throw everyone off the scent.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Kate318 11/13/2022 6:59:55 PM (No. 1332600)
Interesting comments, all. I did pick up on that, #5, and it’s something I’ve thought about before now. The scenario seems very Uniparty, and something they would play with to try to fool us rubes and be able to keep the narrative going. I don’t see this article as stepping away from Sundance’s reservations about DeSantis so much as him saying that, at this point, it doesn’t matter who we conservatives support until we either get in the ballot harvesting game or eliminate it altogether…the former being much more realistic in the short term. My feeling is that Sundance is saying we have to pull together to deal with the elephant in the room (so to speak) and then we can argue over establishment vs populist. If that is his point, I agree.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Chiritwo 11/13/2022 7:36:45 PM (No. 1332617)
Sorry, finished with the republicans. I will vote independent next time.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Californian 11/13/2022 7:55:12 PM (No. 1332628)
Don't vote for parties. Vote for conservatives. If there is no conservative running then don't vote. I refuse to vote for lesser evils. A slower slide to Marxism is what got us here. Slow suicide, fast suicide, I see no difference at all. I used to be a Republican but now I'm strictly a conservative. As Reagan once said about his party change from the Democrats, I didn't leave the party, the party left me.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bpl40 11/13/2022 8:39:10 PM (No. 1332641)
There are two key points here without which Americans will never get back their right to legally, constitutionally choose their representatives.1. Stop “ballot submission assistance “ business in its tracks. 2. Start a program of detoxification/deindoctrination of the young. Otherwise all is lost. Florida vs Pennsylvania is glaring example in fron of us. Oh, for God’s sake don’t lose the Georgia runoff. Even though I will donate/support him, I think PDT should postpone his Nov 15 “announcement “ , if there is one.
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