The Big Lie about 'The Big Lie'
American Thinker,
by
William Sullivan
Original Article
Posted By: Magnante,
11/4/2022 9:07:18 AM
Newsweek laments a new poll by Redfield and Wilton Strategies showing that 40 percent of Americans still believe that the 2020 presidential election was "rigged or stolen." (snip) when we factor in those who believe that the election was not rigged, but understand why Americans are skeptical based upon the facts they've observed, we find that over three in four Americans (or 75.2 percent, given Newsweek's numbers) think the election was rigged, understand why other Americans think the election was rigged, don't know whether or not the election was rigged, or refused to take a position
Reply 1 - Posted by:
john56 11/4/2022 9:18:20 AM (No. 1324039)
Maybe you can count me among those "election deniers." And it may be difficult to prove that the actions actually "stole" the election if it had gone to a court of law. But something sure stinks when Joe Biden gets 81 million votes, far beyond that of a very "attractive" candidate in Obama (2008, 2012).
But that's water under the bridge. Joe Biden was certified as President by the Electoral College. Tough for me.
But the old adage holds. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I think we've finished the "Fool me once" part of this story.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Newtsche 11/4/2022 9:35:11 AM (No. 1324066)
Everyone knows the perpetrators of the big lie, the biggest lie, the biggliest lie, the loudest lie...
Christopher Hitchens missed the mark when he suggested there was no one left to lie to.
The left are all Clintons now, it's a badge worn proudly.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
fhancock 11/4/2022 9:42:12 AM (No. 1324080)
Biden was getting beat so bad that six states had to "STOP COUNTNG" at the same time to realign the narrative...if you were in Pa you watched Trump's 825,000 lead evaporate overnight when NO ONE WAS COUNTING...yeah nothing to see here...
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
sterling431 11/4/2022 9:44:15 AM (No. 1324083)
The left cannot stand the idea that so many people believed the 2020 election was rife with fraud. In fact, there were multiple instances of fraud in different swing states. The documentary 2000 Mules highlight only some of the fraud. People saw with their own eyes balls stuffing, intimidation of republican poll watches, pulling boxes of ballots from under tables after the voting was closed, and so on. Consider just a few points: Joe Biden campaigned from his basement for the great majority of the campaign. The few occasions he ventured out in public to speak hardly nobody came or listened to him. (Unlike Trump who drew tens of thousands of people wherever he showed up) Trump was up big late the night of the election and most went to bed believing he had won. When you combine these and other issues it seems impossible Biden actually got 81 million votes when there was clearly no enthusiasm for his campaign. There is significant evidence there was widespread fraud. However, most of it was never heard because of the parties that challenged the results were deemed to "not have standing". It belies people's common sense that Biden got a record turnout against all these facts. The left (which includes the media & big tech) has resorted to demonization & ostracization of these who still question the outcome. The left is so used to getting its way when all of their combined resources have has not been able to kill the belief that Biden is not a legitimate President that it is driving them crazy. Elections must have tight controls for one reason- People are not angels and will cheat, steal, and commit fraud when they believe they can get away with it. Basically the left has tried too convince people that common sense is not a valid reason to challenge election results. Well, it is. Period. Common sense will always dictate how people view things. The huge amount of evidence supporting fraud has not been allowed to be heard. That in itself is evidence of something very wrong.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
MDConservative 11/4/2022 9:54:52 AM (No. 1324099)
The "Big Truth" is in those six REPUBLICAN states where Joe won the electors in a late hour "upset." Could REPUBLICANS be complicit in the disposal of PDT? The truth is that no one wants to look under those rocks in a meaningful way because it would shatter the notion of a competitive two-party system and expose the UNIPARTY as that "well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information." It's easier to just allow those living in their fantasy to continue living there.
The other fact is that polling regularly has shown 75 percent of voters believe several Presidential elections since 2000 were "rigged"...in favor of Bush (ask Gore and Kerry backers), Trump (ask Hillary shrews) and Biden. Our national level elections seem to have lost legitimacy, and that's fatal in a democracy.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
jimboscott 11/4/2022 9:56:34 AM (No. 1324102)
The 16-18 bellwether counties sealed my skepticism. In the last century (roughly), these 18 counties have never failed to line up with the Presidential election and the WORST a President had ever done was lose something like TWO of the EIGHTEEN and still win.
Biden took ONE.
I simply know it in my bones that this is statistically NOT possible in an honest election.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
formerNYer 11/4/2022 10:04:37 AM (No. 1324119)
I never got an answer to this one question. How do 5 independent states all stop counting at the same time?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
davew 11/4/2022 10:22:19 AM (No. 1324156)
The Federal law is clear and backed by the SCOTUS ruling on Foster v. Love. The counting must be complete by midnight of election day or it is void. Every state that stopped counting on election day and continued for days afterwards violated the law. They should have reported their counts at midnight or risk disenfranchising their citizens. Trump won the legal, certified, and Constitutionally defined election by a landslide. End of disscussion.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
cobieone 11/4/2022 10:34:50 AM (No. 1324172)
Amen William Sullivan! The Left stole the election by unconstitutionally changes the rules because of Covid; mail-in ballots, drop boxes, ballot harvesting, etc. Then the Dems counted ballots that were unverified because, you know, Covid. Ballots that would have never been counted in any other election. Ballots without signatures, addresses, etc. Tens of thousands in every one of the battleground precincts. THAT'S how they stole the election.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
jasmine 11/4/2022 12:25:08 PM (No. 1324306)
Prior to the 2020 “election” Democrats worked with the MSM, and had narrative influencers on the FBI payroll pushing the Russia hoax. No wonder the integrity of the 2020 election remains an issue. Actual cheating took place, paid for by Democrats. Two years later, Biden’s decisive “win” looks less and less plausible. From his laughable “full ride scholarship” tales, to having multiple degrees, to being a top scholar in law school, to taking credit for cost of living increases on Social Security checks, this man and his administration continues to disrespect Americans by lying to them. If they had not cooked up the Russia hoax, there might be more people willing to trust them when they insist the 2020 election was free and fair.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
BaldGuy 11/5/2022 7:32:14 AM (No. 1324979)
What ever happened with the Postal truck coming from NY to PA loaded with ballots? And in Georgia where the "sprinklers broke" and after everyone went home, they started counting Joe ballots.....
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
gop_guys 11/5/2022 7:37:01 AM (No. 1324984)
We know they FIB openly & knowingly lied about the Russian collusion. We know they played hide & seek with Hunter’s laptop. We know they pushed the Covid hoax in order to allow mail in voting and ballot harvesting. We know the corrupt media attacked Trump 24/7. We know they stopped counting in the middle of the night only to awaken with a monster spike in key states. We know the party promotes murdering babies unborn and alive while castrating young boys and mutilating young These people have no honor, no integrity, and no soul. Why wouldn’t they cheat in elections. Gop_girl thinks they will be stealing the midterms. I think there will be tens of thousands of eyes on this election. I also think the red wave will be so big, we will shellack their sorry candidates back to hades. Come quickly Tuesday the 8th.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Red Jeep 11/5/2022 8:03:53 AM (No. 1325004)
The Big Lie IS that Biden won the election.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
pros7767 11/5/2022 8:20:35 AM (No. 1325024)
Don't forget Obama 2012 election.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
tivey6301 11/5/2022 9:20:38 AM (No. 1325096)
Add me to the list of "election deniers".
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 11/5/2022 10:06:55 AM (No. 1325142)
Sorry, it doesn't matter what we think. I believe the election may well have been stolen, but it won't change anything. I also think it is equally possible 80 million people were dumb and dishonest enough to vote for a senile dishonest fool.
The only ones that matter are the judges that would have to rule on an election fraud case. Prove it in a court of law, otherwise it's just noise. If some state produced over 100k fraudulent ballots, it should be easily provable. Prove it! Btw, don't expect anything to change. The words, 'The results are final' are there for a reason. Otherwise, people will spend years disputing an old election. Don't expect the election to be overturned. Don't expect the President to be impeached. At best, the people that directly perpetrated the fraud will face jail time. Not that it matters. Other people will step up and commit the same fraud the next election.
Why? Because people are dumb and dishonest.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
PrayerWarrior 11/5/2022 10:51:23 AM (No. 1325192)
Does anyone here know that the people behind 2,000 Mules, Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips, are in jail right now because they won't give up their sources for the corruption in the 2020 Presidential election? The judge won't let them out until they cough up the names. Don't we have a First Amendment? The Left would love to know these names so they can destroy them.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
PrayerWarrior 11/5/2022 10:52:16 AM (No. 1325194)
p.s. Would everyone that reads this, please say a prayer for Catherine and Greg in jail?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Kafka2 11/5/2022 11:10:02 AM (No. 1325220)
When you consider all the information suppression, misinformation, and slanderous lies that were spread during the 2020 election, it is no wonder people believe that this was enough to change the outcome of the election— that the election was rigged. The fact that Democrat candidates that lost have proclaimed that the election was “stolen” from them adds credence to the claim.
It is strange that elections are only stollen from Democrats, but Republicans are election deniers.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Zigrid 11/5/2022 11:30:26 AM (No. 1325246)
Excellent post #1...ditto from flyover country...WE will never agree that biden is our president...because he isn't....the DC democrats are running the White House...and ole Joe eats his ice cream cone....and fondles little girls....
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Kate318 11/5/2022 12:29:35 PM (No. 1325352)
Therein lies the problem, #16. Trump’s campaign was never given the option to “prove it in a court of law.” Every single case was dismissed before any evidence could be shown, including SCOTUS’. If you rig every, single part of the system, and then point fingers at someone as crazy because the rigged system didn’t support their claims, you have clearly won the game. Add to that those that are willing to say it’s all spilled milk now, and you have the perfect storm for vote fraud. The fact that we allowed this to happen is the saddest part of all. Soon, we will be out of reasonable options. Very soon.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
The Remnants 11/5/2022 6:00:49 PM (No. 1325625)
I bought Dinesh D'Souza's film about the 2020 election, "2000 Mules", when it came out, and it was well-worth the money! So intelligent, so well-done, so true. Now it seems you can watch it free, online, on YouTube.
I cannot understand why all those who go on-and-on about The Big Lie (referring to those who question the validity of the 2020 election) never - ever - refer to the first scene of 2000 Mules where then-candidate Joe Biden says - to the camera:
"We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive
voter fraud organization in the history of American Politics."
Most Americans who voted in the 2020 election do not not believe it was won fair and square, and President Biden is telling us that we should suspect voter fraud.
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