About that genocide of Indians
Donsurber.com,
by
Don Surber
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
10/12/2022 6:31:45 PM
A reader in Mexico whose wife and children are descendants of Aztecs wrote to me about my Columbus Day piece.
He wrote, "Not many know it, but I think it was 1569, a new disease killed half (50%) of the surviving indigenous people in the entire nation. Spanish and Indians often lived in the same houses, and indigenous died while the whites, who often cared for them, were untouched.
"There were many doctors and scientists there, and there was extensive documentation of the illness, and it was NOT anything known in Europe. Among other differences, the dying person's blood turned green before death.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Highlander 10/12/2022 7:18:24 PM (No. 1302885)
Bad things happened to all peoples of the world at all times. We whites had it rough, too. So let’s not play that “blame Whitey” game, shall we?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Catherine 10/12/2022 7:50:09 PM (No. 1302903)
There were a couple of episodes of The X Files where a person's blood turned green. I imagine everything is possible, even if it sounds like science fiction.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/12/2022 8:00:10 PM (No. 1302910)
Link in article leads to scientific evidence that Columbus and his party did not introduce the illness into Mexico that killed off the “indiginous people”.
Bring back Columbus Day!!!
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I just googled green blood, and I seriously doubt that the explorers, or even the Spanish conquerors could have introduced what made the blood turn green.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Pete Stone 10/12/2022 10:08:06 PM (No. 1302977)
The article mentions hemorrhagic fevers. One kind of hemorrhagic fever that appeared in Mexico in the mid-1500's was brought unwittingly by the African slaves the Spanish purchased in West Africa and imported: yellow fever. Huge numbers of whites, Indians, and Negroes died of it. The disease is spread by mosquitos. It's now endemic in the North and South American tropics, because it's established in the monkey populations in South and Central America. It doesn't matter if every human being is free of yellow fever; the monkeys represent a huge reservoir of the disease, and mosquitos continue to transmit it.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 10/12/2022 11:00:24 PM (No. 1303000)
Maybe, just maybe, this was our Holy God's judgement on a people who worshipped Satan and were frequent practitioners of human sacrifice, whenever their "global warming god" demanded blood.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
5 handicap 10/13/2022 6:37:32 AM (No. 1303141)
Have the indigenous people of America apologized to Europe for the millions who died from Syphilis given the whites who came to America and the plague of tobacco which still kills millions? When and only when they apologize should Europeans apologize to them.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
felixcat 10/13/2022 9:49:49 AM (No. 1303331)
So why do Leftists here in the USA not get angry at Spain? (rhetorical question). Once again - watch the movie Apocalypto.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Zigrid 10/13/2022 11:17:36 AM (No. 1303419)
Sooooo...the Spanish are responsible for the wiping out of half the indigenous population of the Americas in 1569...well that's interesting...wonder how pocohantas warren feels about this piece of history....since the Black Plague came from china...should we blame them for millions of whites that died...thanks to them....Europe was decimated ....and let's not forget Stalin...who starved millions of his people so he could control Russia...which he quickly changed to be named the Soviet Union so as to cut any connection with the Russian Czar and his family...which he cruelly murdered in a basement....and while WE're at it...let's condemn Germany for all the deaths they caused during WW I and WW II...so let the woke community chew on that information for a while...
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Cindiana 10/13/2022 12:38:22 PM (No. 1303497)
#8 mentions "Apocalypto", a film I've been wanting to watch for quite a while. Bought a DVD and found it absolutely riveting! I'm on no position to comment on its historical accuracy, so I leave that to others. But it was a fantastic viewing experience. If you can, watch the Special Features to fully appreciate the meticulous attention to detail, set construction, costuming, and casting. 5 Stars for this one.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Geoman 10/13/2022 2:04:00 PM (No. 1303580)
I get the universal point that nobody owes anybody anything for the acts of our ancestors but I respectfully submit that the comments of #6,7 are unnecessarily over the top. Further, with a large, extended family of Cherokee, Choctaw, and Scots-Irish, all having interacted and intermarried within the continental US, I do not know a single Native American or American Indian who is against Columbus Day or blames Columbus for anything, nor am I aware of any cultural-religious indications of Satan Worship among the tribes within the US. Historical/scientific evidence points to European Syphilis as originating in SW Asia and being brought to Europe by and its infections found in French mercenaries invading Naples, Italy over 500 years ago. In our own US history, the numerous Indian tribes were differentiated by labeling five of the Southeastern tribes who had developed extensive economic ties, spoke English, often lived in wood frame houses, wore western clothing, practiced Christianity, and had well assimilated into white settler culture of the early-mid 1800s as the "Five Civilized Tribes:" the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole.
Many well assimilated tribal members became successful merchants and clergy, although most hunted meat and cleared their tribal lands for farming, much like their white farmer counterparts. The Indian Removal Act of 1830 was passed in order to clear Indians, civilized or not, out of the way for "Manifest Destiny," the westward expansion of mostly new immigrant Americans. The law allowed the US government to remove Indians from their ancestral homelands and send them to what is now Oklahoma by negotiated treaties, although Andrew Jackson decided to remove them by military force. Frontiersman and Tennessee Congressman Davy Crockett opposed this act, saying his opposition would “not make me ashamed in the Day of Judgment.” The state of Georgia, after rumors of gold being found on Indian land, began enforcing the removal outside of official US government actions, which US law required be conducted pursuant to treaty as negotiations with compensation for their confiscated lands, animals, and other belongings. Georgia did not follow the law, which led to a Supreme Court ruling that US law be followed and that the states were not authorized to enforce; however, Jackson, like Biden today, decided not to enforce either US law or the Supreme Court ruling. This led to Georgia and other nearby states to write their own laws, which had a significantly adverse effect on the five Civilized Tribes. My own family had previously been awarded land in Georgia for military service against the British during the Revolutionary War. During the removal, the Cherokee alone suffered a loss of about a quarter of their population on their forced march to Oklahoma. Some Cherokees avoided capture or escaped the Trail of Tears and made their way to less populated lands in British West Florida (Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana), where the government at the time allowed Indians to own the land that they worked to clear and farm. Many of those Indians who had fled forced removal or had self-removed from their historic tribal lands to avoid forced removal, moved west into the Republic of Texas and became full US citizens when Texas was admitted to the US in 1845. By then the degree of intermarriage had made it impossible or impractical to single out the Indians, primarily of Cherokee and Choctaw descent. The Comanche of Texas were anything but civilized and had to be suppressed in order to protect the new US citizens, including those of mixed blood. Today, many folks who delight in denigrating American Indians might be surprised at their own genetic/racial history. For young humans looking for a mate, racial purity is seldom an innate gating factor.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Omen55 10/13/2022 9:14:45 PM (No. 1303937)
Quakers or Amish could have step off those ships & the moment they meet the natives it starts the spread.
I recommend the book & documentary: Guns,Germs & Steel.
It chronicles what killed 85% of the natives.
No doubt.
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