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Zeitenwende: Germany finally agrees to
send tanks to Ukraine

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Posted By: Dreadnought, 4/27/2022 12:07:21 AM

It has taken him weeks to get to this point but German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has finally reversed course on sending heavy weapons to Ukraine. Under pressure both at home and abroad for his dithering over Ukraine, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz reversed course and finally agreed to supply heavy arms to aid in the country’s defense against Russia. The agreement to deliver antiaircraft tanks to Kyiv was announced on Tuesday in conjunction with a summit meeting among Western nations held at the U.S. Air Force Base in Ramstein, Germany. On the agenda were discussions about how best to prevent a Russian victory in the eastern Donbas region, where combat tactics

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Reply 1 - Posted by: snakeoil 4/27/2022 1:02:40 AM (No. 1139273)
You can't have a world war without Germany. This gives Valad the Impaler an excuse to crank up the war and to refuse to negotiate. Stay out.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 4/27/2022 2:12:30 AM (No. 1139288)
Ok, good to see the Krauts kicking in something more than blankets. These Gepards are are well regarded, radar guided anti-aircraft gun systems on a tracked vehicle chassis. Extremely high velocity 35mm guns, range to over three miles, radar guidance makes it deadly against helos and fixed wing aircraft. A few of these defending a point will prevent a helo-borne troop assault pretty effectively. Not a "tank". Words mean things. ALL armored, tracked vehicles are NOT "tanks". Tanks are different from armored personnel carriers, which are different from anti-aircraft tracked vehicles, which are different than self propelled artillery. And the irritatingly stupid and lazy media calls them ALL "tanks". A tank has a single big main gun and it is intended to directly fire it to destroy other armored vehicles or bunkers at ranges out to a mile or so. Armored personnel carriers have far smaller and less deadly guns, and have a primary job of carrying roughly 6-10 soldiers to battle in some safety, with a moderate self defense fighting capability, modest armor. Anti-aircraft guns or missiles can be on a tracked chassis, too - but shoot down aircraft, modest armor. And self-propelled artillery, is a big cannon, with tracks, but not designed for or with a sighting system for direct fire at something that you are looking at.....but to shoot at stuff very far away, guided by observers to correct your shot fall at a ranges of even tens of miles. And the armor is thin, not like a tank, to protect against shell fragments from a nearby artillery hit.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Strike3 4/27/2022 3:37:01 AM (No. 1139314)
Thanks, #2, for the tech specs. Given Germany's history I didn't think they were allowed to build and keep heavy weapons.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: F15 Gork 4/27/2022 7:10:35 AM (No. 1139420)
Watch out for that Russian Winter.....it’s a killer. But then ya’ll already know that.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/27/2022 9:26:54 AM (No. 1139552)
Scholz is worse than Angela. I think he shorter and smaller also.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Strike3 4/27/2022 10:45:18 AM (No. 1139630)
Has there ever been a tall dictator in history? I mean other than deBlasio but then New York might as well be on another planet.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 4/27/2022 11:55:13 AM (No. 1139710)
RE #2, that was done after the first WW, it didn't work because nobody was willing to enforce it after about 3 years after the war ended, but no serious attempts to control their weapons after WW2 beyond a few years of occupation. They have had their own tanks for many decades, and other heavy weapons, too. Unfortunately, in recent decades they stopped funding their military and while they might "have" 500 tanks, it was likely that maybe 300 or 400 were not combat capable due to parts shortages. Same for their military aircraft, trucks, etc.
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