Americans’ trust in science now deeply
polarized, poll shows
Associated Press,
by
Seth Borenstein
&
Hannah Fingerhut
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
1/26/2022 2:11:35 PM
Washington—Republicans’ faith in science is falling as Democrats rely on it even more, with a trust gap in science and medicine widening substantially during the COVID-19 pandemic, new survey data shows. It’s the largest gap in nearly five decades of polling by the General Social Survey, a widely respected trend survey conducted by NORC at the University of Chicago that has been measuring confidence in institutions since 1972. That is unsurprising to more than a dozen scientists reached for comment by The Associated Press, but it concerns many of them. Science used to be something all Americans would get behind, Rice University historian Douglas Brinkley said.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Hazymac 1/26/2022 2:15:02 PM (No. 1051613)
The problem is Seth Borenstein and his ilk, who have perverted science and lied for political reasons. Bye bye, Seth. Because of people like you I no longer trust the Associated Press.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 1/26/2022 2:24:04 PM (No. 1051618)
Lie to us about "climate change" for decades and now two years of massive lying about the Wuhan virus, and killing people by denying safe, cheap and effective early treatment.
You can fool all of the people some of the time. That time has ended, and now you are fooling some of the people ....and fewer are being fooled.
What they say about Wuhan virus and global warming is NOT "science", it's pure politics, pretending to be science and warping, twisting, bribing "science" to get political power.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
davew 1/26/2022 2:28:40 PM (No. 1051621)
Conservatives have always been more skeptical of purveyors of "truth" than liberals. People that have lived a while longer have painful memories of their youth when they bought into this or that fad or followed this or that guru. A conservative is a liberal that has been mugged. What the left wants is not critical thinking by conservatives but compliance with their authority. Reasonable people, equally informed, will usually reach similar conclusions. But when you realize from bitter experience that people are trying to "gaslight" you and turn you into a slave, you eventually fight back. That is where we are today.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
sw penn 1/26/2022 2:30:06 PM (No. 1051625)
Define science...
There is a big difference between small room, deep thought, Einstein science,
and big government, political, Fauci science...
And, yes.
The public knows the difference...
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
skacmar 1/26/2022 2:32:40 PM (No. 1051627)
The Covid virus and Global Warming crowd have given the term Political Science and entirely new meaning. Where Politics and Science used to be two different things, they have now merged into the now perverted Political Science, that is science that has become politicized and tailored to meet the political objectives of those in power in order to maintain their power. By perverting the use of science for political means, people no longer believe politicians or scientists when discussing controversial issues like global warming or Covid vaccinations.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
planetgeo 1/26/2022 2:41:01 PM (No. 1051634)
On the contrary, AssPress, we conservatives are the ones who continue to practice (NOT "believe in") real science...as in using the Scientific Method, gathering rigorous data and fully analyzing it, welcoming and requiring discussion and challenges to conclusions and assertions, etc. It's the media and Democrats (redundant, I know) that demand unquestioning "belief" to authority, not real science.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
BarryNo 1/26/2022 2:41:05 PM (No. 1051635)
Authority, is not the same as Science.
We've had expert after expert talking about COVID, Anthropomorphic Global Warming, and on these subjects we've also seen government approved censorship of 'unpopular' rebuttals.
Science, is not censorship. Science requires rebuttal and argument, but never Censorship. If Republicans dustrust "Science" it is because "Science" has failed to follow the rules of order.
Brute force does not make truth.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
kidsmom 1/26/2022 2:46:48 PM (No. 1051640)
Gee, Democrat "science" is all about global warming, Covid will kill us all, and whatever-is-in-the-womb-is-just-a-blob-of-tissue. No wonder critical thinkers are skeptical. We're tired of being lied to~~
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 1/26/2022 2:51:47 PM (No. 1051646)
Surprise, surprise, surprise. A lack of trust. What gives.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 1/26/2022 2:53:33 PM (No. 1051650)
Classroom Note: If Fauci is THE science, then do not believe it ever.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Rich323 1/26/2022 2:54:03 PM (No. 1051652)
The communists have created a new religion called Covid. Since you can’t see it we are fighting over its existence just like religious discussion. Those who believe take the communion of vaccine and those who do not are verbally condemned to hell by the believers. The main stream media and government are the clergy trying to convert everyone to their beliefs. The wise ones who have strong scientific proof of the fallacy of this Covid religion are banned from speaking to the masses. It’s a vicious circle and I’m hoping more people will see the light and end this madness!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
jinx 1/26/2022 2:55:26 PM (No. 1051654)
Any time the government takes over an entity be it medicine, global warming, education, mail service, it ruins it. Then the MSM that pushes global takeover of our lives wonders why we are skeptical. Go figure it out for yourselves. We are not the dumb ones.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
stablemoney 1/26/2022 3:05:12 PM (No. 1051668)
Americans trust in politicians and corporate ceo's practicing medicine is very low, but not low enough. It is also tiresome getting unsolicited medical advice from strangers in the check out line.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 1/26/2022 3:07:18 PM (No. 1051669)
Science such as biology, physics, etc. has been transformed into Lysenko Science, the science of politics. Ignorance of real science, like the biological difference between male and female species, is the doom of civilization. America is well on its way to the dustbin of history by adopting "Lysenko Science".
Trofim Lysenko was responsible for the starvation of millions of Ukranians. Lysenko rejected the advances of genetics. Reference: https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/science-magazines/science-philosophy-and-practice-lysenkoism-study-dangers-political-intrusions-science.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Scout Finch 1/26/2022 3:08:01 PM (No. 1051671)
Great responses from fellow LDotters! Love these threads.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 1/26/2022 3:10:19 PM (No. 1051678)
The way they use the word, they need to put quotes around "science."
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We were told by scientists that we could pay a tax and end global warming.
Can we get that same deal on ending this covid thing too?
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Highlander 1/26/2022 3:19:49 PM (No. 1051691)
Of course, the Dems trust “science.” It fits snuggly into their narrative.
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For the record, I have total trust in science, but I have not trust in "The Science." Upper case T, upper case S. Science works, and is a wonder of humanity. "The Science" is nothing more than a politicized bastardization of the science.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
SALady 1/26/2022 3:48:52 PM (No. 1051712)
For something to be "science", you have to be free to question it and debate it.
During this whole stupid Covid pandemic, we have been told that it is all "science", and that if we question it or have disagreements with it based on logic, reason, or facts, we are crucified, called every name in the book, and ostracized to the point of loosing our livelihoods!!!! That is not "science", it is lie-beral fascism!!!!
Republicans have no problem with real science!!! We have a huge problem with all the so-called "science" that lie-berals keep trying to shove down our throats (see multiple and changeable genders, global warming, etc).
FJB!!!
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
seamusm 1/26/2022 3:57:45 PM (No. 1051721)
I AM a physician scientist. I am deply ashamed at the loss of integrity among my colleagues. I don't expect John Q Public to recognize either the truth or especially the scientific process. But my fellow professionals have become whores chasing government and pharma 'johns'. The hatred of all-things-Trump has caused them nearly all to sell their very souls.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Granddanny 1/26/2022 4:00:15 PM (No. 1051722)
I will not be lectured about science by people who don't know the difference between a man and a woman.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
paral04 1/26/2022 4:11:54 PM (No. 1051728)
For openers, medicine is an art not a science. The practice does not fit the rules for the Scientific Method, Medicine is an Art. All this blathering about "Follow the science, is just that. Blathering."
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
NorCaliInfidel 1/26/2022 4:15:06 PM (No. 1051730)
#21, I AM a PhD microbiologist. I am also ashamed at the loss of integrity among scientists. It is all about grants, funding, advancement. The present lack of integrity (Covid-related) is stoked by the pharma industry, especially Pfizer. Follow the money. We must be able to expose the money trails of those having influence over the government's Covid policies. We must expose the US government-sanctioned and UN coverup of the gain-of-function research at Wuhan. It was either an accidental leak or deliberate. Once the virus was out, Wuhan was locked down locally by force, yet international airport travel continued. We must expose the CCP's role in the pandemic and act appropriately in our national (not Brandon's or Hunter's) interests.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
moebellini3 1/26/2022 4:15:30 PM (No. 1051731)
Americans trust true science, not corrupted science. Just like their climate change agenda. They create their own science and refuse to hear about real science. Their science models are all rigged to create an outcome that fits their narrative. You really have to ask, what is it with the democratic mind that makes them so evil.......
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 1/26/2022 4:23:20 PM (No. 1051735)
OP, I agree they've been slowly conditioned to simply just accept information that has been sited as coming from "experts", with very little question.
Amazing since most of the democrats who grew up in the 60''s and 70's didn't trust the government.
What they now want is to have one narrative, and that will be considered to be the truth, with anything else being labeled misinformation.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 1/26/2022 4:26:27 PM (No. 1051737)
Science that can't be questioned isn't science, it is dogma.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
DVC 1/26/2022 4:42:09 PM (No. 1051755)
In the early 2000s, I needed to begin regularly traveling to central and south central Asia, where there are many diseases that are endemic that are not common in the USA. So, I went to the CDC web site, and looked at what they recommended for the places I would be going. And I got about 6 or 8 new vaccinations for yellow fever, and various other things.
At this point, I wouldn't believe CDC if they told me the sun rises in the east. And never an anti-vaccine person before, but I'll be damned if I'll take their shots.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Geoman 1/26/2022 4:43:45 PM (No. 1051756)
"Science" has not failed in the least but the bureaucrats and politicians who act wrongly in the name of science have darned sure failed.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Trump'sCousin 1/26/2022 5:10:24 PM (No. 1051767)
Leftist Nazis have always bent and spread em for the newest fad and fancy that makes them ffffeeeeelllllll Good! No discernment involved.
In a way, the masks are good, a silver lining if you will. Mental deviants who will believe anything are easily identifiable by the face diaper.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
columba 1/26/2022 5:24:06 PM (No. 1051783)
Science often recognizes WHAT, but it never says WHY.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Schnapps 1/26/2022 5:34:45 PM (No. 1051794)
Seth Boringstein and Hannah Fingerears can't even get the headline right.
The issue was stated as: Overall, 48% of Americans say they have “a great deal” of confidence in the scientific community,
Republicans’ faith is in science, Democrats rely on the "scientific community" to create scary scenarios to justify their power grabs.
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Three quotes from a REAL scientist, Richard Feynman:
(1) It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
(2) Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.
(3) I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
FLCracker 1/26/2022 7:09:36 PM (No. 1051883)
Too bad "Big Bang Theory" is now off the air. I should would like to see Sheldon's reactions to all this - virus, vaxing, anti-vaxing, masks, no masks ... and scientific theory.
Of course, Sheldon wasn't really a scientist, just a Hollywood writer's conception of a scientist.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
thekidsmom66 1/26/2022 7:25:20 PM (No. 1051897)
This "science" is a perfect example of "Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,” ( Tim. 6:20).
The left clings to this so called science, because they're terrified of death! They have no hope in God, because they abandoned belief in him long ago. This is all they've got.
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I’m healthcare provider! I live by trusting medicines that are shown to be safe and effective! I don’t trust the politicized science of politicians and pseudoscientists like Fauci!
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 1/26/2022 9:39:08 PM (No. 1051991)
After decades of subordinating "Science" to the whims of the Federal Grant Illuminati who control what Professors can say, or do. Eliminate the entire Federal Grant system, period and give my tax money back.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
javaboy 1/26/2022 9:52:37 PM (No. 1052000)
Science I trust.
People claiming to represent science, who base their statements on money, politics, or dogmatic ideology... not so much.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
CivilServant 1/27/2022 8:42:42 AM (No. 1052321)
Heck I have ABSOLUTE FAITH in Liberal Science.
Seeing as how I can ‘self identify’ with Liberal Science, I SI as Albert Einstein.
A Furry Albert Einstein, who is half salamander and half aardvark, with a spirit guide comprised of Shecky Greenblatt and a crested nuthatch.
Science!!!!!
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Comments:
Democrats like being told what to think, just like the comfortable days when mommy would say, "Because I said so, that's why." Now we have "Because it's The Science," but some of us aren't playing along, and will need prodding to follow the path of government-approved righteousness.