The War on Veterans
Townhall,
by
David McGrath
Original Article
Posted By: ladydawgfan,
9/27/2021 5:06:17 AM
Somewhere in the late- 1960’s a totally false, entirely made-up narrative began to crop up in the United States. This narrative is now almost totally and universally thought of as factual on college campuses and amongst socialist/Marxist movements in the United States. The narrative was that the United States had no business fighting the war in Vietnam, and the American soldiers fighting it were an instrument of U.S. imperialism. American troopers coming back from the killing fields of Saigon and the Ho Chi Minh were spit upon and called ‘’Baby Killers’’ Gi’s returning home were made to feel ashamed of their service,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
homefry 9/27/2021 7:34:01 AM (No. 927621)
dim-0s claim that their party "CHANGED" in the 1960s. They actually changed on this subject earlier than that. We lost in Korea because these terd lickers would not allow us to win. IN FACT, we have not won a war since, not because we are not capable, but because these leftwing lunatics kick up such a fuss about it.
Had the greatest generation been of this generation instead, we would be speaking german now.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Aubreyesque 9/27/2021 7:39:58 AM (No. 927630)
"American troopers coming back from the killing fields of Saigon and the Ho Chi Minh were spit upon and called ‘’Baby Killers’’ Gi’s returning home were made to feel ashamed of their service..."
THIS is why so many of us today, in particular the GenXers, try to go out of our way to THANK our service members when we can. Too many of us remember seeing this happen and know it was WRONG and BAD and UNWARRANTED.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MrDeplorable 9/27/2021 8:22:02 AM (No. 927651)
Who would dreamed military veterans themselves would someday be the oppressed of DE OPPRESSO LIBER, the motto of my Special Forces unit and the guiding principle of my life?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 9/27/2021 8:30:34 AM (No. 927657)
Vietnam was my War - two combat tours in F4s. The only problem I had with that dust up was the fools in Washington who micromanaged it like LBJ and MacNamara. We went out everyday knowing full well these clowns had no intention of winning it so we were left to fight it as best we could and take care of each other. Prime example: one night I was fragged to bomb a target in Laos described as “An unused truck park having no military significance”. A two year old could have come up with a better target list than what we got everyday. Or how about going against the same target three days in a row at the same time using the same call sign. The gunners could set their watches by us. In the first 7 months of my first tour 14 of the guys I shipped over with had been shot down. Quite frankly Scarlett I’ve never lost a minutes sleep over any load I dropped during the two years I was over there. They were trying to kill us and we were trying to kill them......things get pretty basic out on the tip of the spear.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Condor44 9/27/2021 9:05:34 AM (No. 927685)
I remember those days. Walking down the street in uniform and being yelled at as a baby killer. Happened more than once. After I got off of active duty in 1971 I went to college. Because of all the hate on campus, I was afraid to let anyone know that I was a recently discharged Marine. It wasn't until the early 80's that I felt safe enough to speak about my prior service. I now look back on this and feel ashamed that I didn't stand up to these idiots, but it was a different time. As vets we were discriminated against and made to feel like 3rd class citizens. Now, I am always suprised and happy that people say "thank you for your service". It means a lot.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Laotzu 9/27/2021 9:13:05 AM (No. 927693)
A dull, rambling article that tries to create outrage but misses the mark for lack of depth or understanding.
There's a lot to work with that the author totally ignores. First, the awful treatment of returning Vietnam Veterans during the 60s and 70's. The Left gets a free pass on that, the same way they get a free pass on slavery and their parade of other horribles. The Left was allowed to transition, without accountability, to a rhetorical "we support the troops but not the war" meme in the first Gulf War.
Second, as a two-Veteran marriage, the wife and I keep waiting for the same treatment the police got. One day they were America's heroes. The next day they were America's enemy. The same thing will happen to Veterans, and not because of a lack of programs or organization as the author intimates. It will happen because the Left seeks out and destroys all competing power.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
NamVet70 9/27/2021 9:16:55 AM (No. 927697)
"American troopers coming back from the killing fields of Saigon and the Ho Chi Minh were spit upon and called ‘’Baby Killers’’ Gi’s returning home were made to feel ashamed of their service..." I served in Vietnam and the draft dodgers and their ilk cannot ever make me ashamed of our service. I do believe the Korean conflict veterans and the Vietnam veterans are the only US service members who returned from war to see their service unappreciated. The left can make me angry but they can never make me ashamed of serving.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Phantomll 9/27/2021 9:17:09 AM (No. 927698)
Been there, done that #4. And ROEs were like going into a fight with one arm tied behind your back.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Rather Read 9/27/2021 9:23:43 AM (No. 927708)
I got so sick and tired of seeing Vietnam veterans as crazy killers in movies and TV shows. I know that was what made me start to look at Hollywood with loathing.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 9/27/2021 9:47:23 AM (No. 927725)
In September of 1968 at 19 y.o. I was drafted. I saw it all with life on the college campus before then when I returned. In less than a year I returned home after being wounded while fighting in the Central Highlands in Plieku. It was as everyone mentioned returning home wearing a uniform in air or bus terminals were not times you want to remember. Now I leave it all alone I don't even go to the VA as my wife does (Navy 1966 out of high school). Too late for apologies and thank you from this crowd the military or police uniforms to these people make you their enemy. Remember the long haired, bad dressing, smelly campus hippie driving a brightly painted VW van they now running Washington riding in black limousines ruling over us taking our freedoms away. Nothing has changed from the 1960s.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
MickTurn 9/27/2021 10:37:13 AM (No. 927797)
I was in Viet Nam Sept 68 to Sept 69. I worked in Top Secret areas and I can say with certainty the whole war was a sham.
Well connected people got RICH and our guys DIED! Nothing has changed!
Now we go to the VA to get our disability payments for Agent Orange issues and PTSD and the VA makes it virtually impossible to get benefits.
They sandbag our claims, forcing appeals that are rigged. The SCUM that run the VA must be COMMUNISTS getting even!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
bighambone 9/27/2021 11:09:31 AM (No. 927847)
Unfortunately today across the USA most individual Americans don’t even know anyone who is serving in the US Armed Forces defending America. I spent the entire year 1968 on the ground in Vietnam and during that time the battlefield ranged from very quite time to extreme combat where well over 10,000 US Marines and Army Soldiers, both draftees and volunteers, were killed in action with many times that number being wounded.
That being said, and having been extremely lucky in those respects, I remember in the middle of the snowy night in January when I arrived by passenger train to my then hometown where my mother was living at the time during my return from Vietnam. Outside the railroad station everything was closed and there was no public transportation. So I put my duffle bag on my shoulder and while in uniform on that night I walked a couple of miles from the railroad station to where my mother was residing, and as I walked the only person that encountered me was a police officer in a patrol car who slowed down and lit me up with his search light and then drove off. When I got to my mother’s residence I was just glad to be there. To this day I still consider that I was just a common solder who did what the US Government asked me to do during the Vietnam War period, risk my life. As far as the war on Vietnam Veterans is concerned I blame it on the old line liberal Democrats, some of who are still existing and thriving within the corrupt DC political culture, and who have always “bugged out” when the going got tough on foreign battlefields. Unfortunately for now serving and future US Marines and Soldiers, America’s potential enemies know that very well.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
clipped wings 9/27/2021 11:34:57 AM (No. 927884)
Yes, #3. Yes. DOL!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
columba 9/27/2021 11:47:59 AM (No. 927899)
In the 70s I attended college (GI Bill). I noticed on a Cal State Sacramento official document that veterans would not in any case be given privileges because of the status. I wondered.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Kumoan 9/27/2021 5:10:39 PM (No. 928155)
In future, if there must be war the following should be the rules:
1 only with a Republican President and Congress
2 war MUST be short and brutal
3 MUST be concluded within the current term of the Republican President
4 MUST be preceded by enough of a purge of communists in FedGov to forestall defeat through
confusion of this enemy.
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Excellent article.