Remember that Texas nursing home
experiment with hydroxychloroquine?
American Thinker,
by
Andrea Widburg
Original Article
Posted By: ladydawgfan,
4/18/2020 2:45:13 PM
Last week, American Thinker published “NPR proves true AG Barr’s claim the media is on a ‘jihad’ against hydroxychloroquine.” Subsequent events have proven how wrong NPR was when it used a Houston doctor's reliance on hydroxychloroquine as a vehicle to attack the drug.
If you don't want to read the post linked above, here's a quick summary: Laura Ingraham interviewed Attorney General Bill Barr. In addition to calling the Russia hoax “one of the greatest travesties in American history”, Barr touched on COVID-19.
One thing Barr found bizarre was how the media ignored informing Americans in favor of discrediting President Trump. Barr specifically noted the media’s response to Trump’s hope
Reply 1 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/18/2020 2:55:58 PM (No. 383904)
Another excellent read. Talk about bringing real hope!
Romo should be fired by NPR.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
seamusm 4/18/2020 3:25:14 PM (No. 383918)
There is nothing wrong with patients an off-label use of a drug (or rather drug cocktail) in the hope it will help. This is entirely legal and ethical given that NO treatment regimen is yet PROVEN to work. The good doctor is offering the regimen to all of his patients - some have apparently declined. He is not conducting a clinical trial in that there is no control group such as a placebo group or a comparative drug regimen and he is not randomizing patients to one regimen vs an other. As such it is again legal and ethical and no permission is required except from the patients/families. The problem is that as an open-label trial where everyone gets the same treatment it is impossible to state whether the regimen will be found provably helpful. And the fact that overwhelmingly most patients get better anyway on their own means that we will never know from this kind of data if the regimen actually works. We will only know if it is safe.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
seamusm 4/18/2020 3:25:51 PM (No. 383919)
A lung doctor in Texas.
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I hope Trump is taking it preventatively.
I wish I had a prescription on hand to start immediately, if I get covid19 symptoms.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Gruntmedic 4/18/2020 4:13:24 PM (No. 383960)
The one person complaining,is looking for a vaccine.
She has conflict of interest.
Studies take forever,and let people die.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Jobe 4/18/2020 4:23:24 PM (No. 383966)
The two things that democrats most desire are hydroxychloroquine helping patients through this COVID-19 illness, and the American economy recovering allowing the workers and small business owners to get back to work. Isn't that DISGRACEFUL?
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
comstock 4/18/2020 4:27:52 PM (No. 383970)
If a doctor offered me the chance to participate in a double-blind study of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc I'd decline but then demand the prescription, because I don't want a 50%-50% chance of getting the real thing. I want the drugs to use as a prophylactic NOW!
I'm in a high risk pool (70+, etc., etc...) and I have dominion over my body and my health. If the government legalizes availability of tobacco, alcohol and marijuana (none of which I use) then how can they mandate I not take these substances which have proven effective?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/18/2020 4:59:13 PM (No. 383996)
This doctor gave it to the elderly patients he had been caring for - probably long before the CV hit. It was not a double blind study.. He simply gave it to them in what he called an “observational study”. They gave permission - apparently they were competent to give their own consent and didn’t need additional consent from their families, contrary to Romo’s rant. They got better.
Now the Romos are castigating him. I’ll bet those elderly patients and their families aren’t.
I would love to have a doctor like this one...
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 4/18/2020 5:14:53 PM (No. 384005)
We DO know something. For that batch of people, the drug didn't harm them. We also know they are getting better. These people are older and the likelihood that some of them would die from the virus is higher than the general population; probably 4 - 6 of 39 statistically. Finally, there are no other proven options. Some other drugs are being tried with some positive results but none have gone through rigorous trials or are likely to in the near term.
The medical choice to use this drug is in the hands of the doctor and patient. So far safety seems good and recovery is better than statistically better than expected. The media is ANGRY that good results are being reported. That is a serious warped attitude.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/18/2020 5:57:34 PM (No. 384054)
What good news!!! Thank you Dr Armstrong. You are doing wonderful, lifesaving work.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
kono 4/18/2020 6:11:13 PM (No. 384057)
The success of HCQ on over 30 patients gets scant coverage that is even neutral, let alone positive, in the msm.
But give them one success of Remdesivir, and they treat that as solid confirmation that it is the answer.
My eyes can't roll back further in disgust than this.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
John C 4/18/2020 6:31:25 PM (No. 384074)
Sent this to our local health official. Most of the deaths in this city are the elderly and those confined to nursing homes.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Texasdoc 4/18/2020 9:55:33 PM (No. 384190)
First of all, probably 40-50% of prescriptions written are off label. Generally when a pharmaceutical company applies for FDA approval for a medication, it is for one or two indications that have been verified by several large controlled double blind studies. However it almost always turns out that the same drug is also very effective for another indication. For example, Augmentin which is a strong penicillin-based medication, is extremely effective for tonsillitis. As it turns out, it is also quite good for sinusitis and pediatric ear infections. But in its FDA application, these indications were likely not in the effectiveness trial. Nonetheless, doctors prescribe this medication millions of times per year for these conditions, and they are therefore off label. No different than the current issue with HCQ.
By the way, the FDA waived this issue anyway...
Second, all medications have potential side effects and adverse reactions. In the grand scheme of medications, the side effect profile of HCQ with regard to serious events is far lower than the vast majority of medications.
Third, from what I can tell from the article, none of these elderly high risk patients died. Statistically in a group of 39 high risk patients, the mortality so far reported would mean at least 3 or more of them would have died.
Fourth, all state board certified doctors have what is called prescriptive authority. If they have the patient’s permission and consent, they may prescribe any medication that they feel will benefit and not harm their patient. If they are wrong, there is a justice system to resort to. But the decision is between patient and doctor. Not media hack and public.
And finally, if there are side effects temporarily but you live to complain about them, then if you complain about said side effects, that were temporary, shut the **** up. I.e. Tom Hanks wife. I could care less that she was temporarily dizzy taking HCQ. She lived to complain about it. Again, shut the **** up. If this is not transparent TDS, I don’t know what is.
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#6...I’m confused,because that’s the exact opposite of what the Democrats are rootin’ for. Did you mean Republicans?
I know this good doctor personally, and he is salt of the earth people. It’s a shame that the media and and D’s are trying to destroy yet another good man’s character.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
franq 4/19/2020 1:18:57 AM (No. 384248)
Big Pharma doesn't want a cheap, quick treatment.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Zarin 4/19/2020 4:14:25 AM (No. 384261)
The media is determined to keep Americans fearing for their lives and in a state of hopelessness. Now I know why 2 of my friends (who are NPR addicts) scoffed at me when I mentioned HCQ as a real therapy. One told me that if he got the virus he would be dead. I had to explain to them that I had read the abstracts & even bits of the studies from France's Dr. Roult. He says the 'virus load' in his patients went down to nil in less than 10 days. I even quoted Dr. Oz - tho' he is not exactly my cup of tea for some stuff (like for touting elderberry syrup). This is one more brick showing the bias of the media. I even came across some woman (a troll, I'm sure) on a thread observing South Dakota's new study of HCQ. The troll was publishing links purportedly how dangerous HCQ was for heart patients. Well, yeah, if a patient has underlying conditions the MD has to be careful. However HCQ is being used by RA & Lupus patients for 20 years with minimal side effects. There was on article a few weeks ago about a doctor, also in at a nursing home, whose patients did have heart conditions, and he gave them HCQ & different anti-biotic - since he felt it was the Z-Pak - not the HCQ that was bad for their hearts.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Muguy 4/19/2020 8:26:32 AM (No. 384306)
I have met Dr. Armstrong.
He is a very personable man.
Yes, he is black.
But since he is a REPUBLICAN physician the media has made him an enemy.
They would rather have people die than to try something they gave their permission to try.
The media a star out of a young girl talking about global warming because it fits their agenda.
They are so against Mr. Trump that even a good story HAS to be destroyed along with the Doctor of Medicine
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
lftrn97 4/19/2020 9:50:41 AM (No. 384349)
How is NPR not like WHO? Defund it!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 4/19/2020 9:59:46 AM (No. 384351)
My daughter in law works in a high risk environment Women's Hospital and contracted the virus. How long she had it is questionable before she was quarantined home. My son had the same symptoms but does have horrible allergies this time of year he was tested also. My daughter in law used the HCQ in 12 days she tested negative total time she had the virus is unknown. My son was tested being quarantined didn't have the virus nor did my two grandsons. How could they not get the virus in the same house is amazing? The age of my daughter in law is 49 her health is probably better than mine it could be a factor in her recovery.
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The leftist media complex has been absolutely reprehensible regarding HCQ and its use against Kung Flu. And yet, if the purple-lipped blunder had suggested it, it would be considered a miracle drug suggested by a bonafide genius, or something like that.